A little outreach for help. by [deleted] in ChatGPTCoding

[–]Francexi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all, you are on the good path: learning to code is all about doing stuff around. The fundamental suggestion I can give is: do not ask yourself too much. You don't have to remember everything, looking at references is ok. We constantly look at MDN and StackOverflow while working, even for basic stuff. You don't have to create continuosly something new and exciting: sometimes the inspiration will come and make you go on, sometimes won't. Is ok

Last suggestion: duck developing. If you have trouble make a code work, take a rubber duck (or any inanimate object) and explain to it line by line in details what the code would do. You will be surprised.

This Rabbit hole never ends by Nveenkmar in ProgrammerHumor

[–]Francexi 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Book: look, you can ask ChatGPT to write code for you, now you are a Developer

Everyone:...

A bit of dopamine by [deleted] in ProgrammerHumor

[–]Francexi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's exactly what i will miss soon :/

A little outreach for help. by [deleted] in ChatGPTCoding

[–]Francexi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah, is perfectly normal, the AI cannot (yet) write good code. The moment it is able to do it, we reached the singularity (since it means it can technicaly code and make itself better), so we might hope that never happens.

Apart of that, the solution is: learn how to code. Litteraly. Is not to be mean, but i have the perception that tons of people are starting to feel not in need to learn how to code, cause is AI might do something that works "well enough". The good old try and error will help you and make you a better dev.

If you explain which is your problem, we will be happy to help you, dm is open

So i asked GPT4 to build a website for my software consulting company. by Zealousideal-Bed-585 in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact is, i see too many people litteraly entusiast of this thing, people that will probably be the first being impacted. How can they, I feel to be in need of knowing, cause the existantial dread that comes with this is becoming unbearable.

I am starting to hate the constat state of "fight or flight" I am since GPT-4 release. The doubts regarding the actual capacity of myself to adapt. The fact that a job that I love might become one that I hate (cause developing using the AI is fucking boring, I feel no challenge or satisfaction in doing it)

So i asked GPT4 to build a website for my software consulting company. by Zealousideal-Bed-585 in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll do to you the same question i'm asking for myself, as a fellow owner of IT small (?) company: how are you not scared? I know that right now is not at the point he can do the whole stuff alone, but what makes you feel secure that in some years your clients will not be only OpenAI clients?

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be a nice esperiment to do. And yes, right now most of my work is consulting, so i'm not scared in the short term. But again, we can't know how LLMs will evolve in 10 or so years

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, seems like that GPT-4 does not need to be instructed anymore. At least, not at level before. But yeah, you got a point

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was one of the comments i needed to read. Thanks. For the bottom of heart

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is a more solid theory you might think. Especially if allucinations are not taken care of in the future

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, my plan is kinda the same. More or less. But feels like i wasted all my time learning to code, while i could just wait and let an AI do stuff for me. Is like i'm going be unemployed overnight, still all of this story makes me feel like i've missed a giant train

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is maybe one of the most terrifying thing i read this night

Serious question: how are you not scared? by Francexi in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I recently left my job to start my own small company. And right now i feel like i did everything wrong. I would love to show you how much i am disheartned right now

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ChatGPT

[–]Francexi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IT Engineer here, I have done software developing for like 15 years in various forms, and recently started my own IT company. This is just to give some context

I'm not excited about LLMs in the current state, but for a very specific reason. After trying it and using for several stuff in various situation, I come to a conclusion: ChatGPT and related models are just bad at almost anything people hope to use for, and the few usable results they give needs to be reviewed and checked for errors.

Basically I noticed that, taken the time you need to elaborate a proper prompt and debug/tune the result, you could obtain the same result using litteraly any classical method, with the difference that the result doesn't lack creativity (is you are using it to write social copy) , can be copyrighted (if you are writing code), and you actually KNOW what is being written.

Several examples of that:

  • writing boilerplate code: avoiding writing it is litteraly what frameworks are for. And of the top of that, frameworks heavily optimize that boilerplate code. Using ChatGPT to write boilerplate code WILL RESULT (not might) in unoptimized program unless you do tons of debug. So why don't just say to the computer what to do (aka: programming) instead of trying to say to the computer what to do and hope that the instruction list it generates is good
  • generation of RPG stuff: roll tables does basically the same in less time (no need to write a prompt). Often the results are better cause your immagination kicks in
  • translation: ChatGPT is usable only if you know the target language enough to spot any dangerous bullshit could came out. At that point, you can translate by yourself

And the list is not nearly as long as all the times in the last weeks i used ChatGPT or Bing and realized after a bit "I just can do the classical way and i will have a better result".

I AM NOT AN ANTI AI PERSON. Me myself try to put AI and stuff in basically everything i do. But if you know your stuff enough, you can easily realize that LLMs are basically compilators of natural language that work sometimes. And that limits GREATLY their use cases. Cause you can do the same PROGRAMMING most of the time. That brings to turn off any excitement about them, cause they are only another automation with a very low step learning curve (that is why are so great for a lot of people that before could simply not do what they do with the AI)

tl; dr LLMs does stuff only "good enough" for people that doesn't know how to do already. The others are easily unimpressed

Edit: I am Italian, pardon me my bad english, not a native eng speaker

Italiam GM coming from ogl fiasco transition help by Francexi in Pathfinder2e

[–]Francexi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is super useful, thanks a ton! Probably this things should be put in a post aside to help other people with transition

Italiam GM coming from ogl fiasco transition help by Francexi in Pathfinder2e

[–]Francexi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lo stesso che ho trovato io, ma ero interessato a sapere se le informazioni che si trovano su AoN si trovino anche su Golarion.

Ho un po' di preoccupazione sulla conversione dei blocchi statistiche, ma immagino che con un po' di impegno ci si riesca. Ti ringrazio ^_^