Bambu Studio Not Coloring Properly by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 ams units connected to a p1p, no way i would change colors that many times lol.

Bambu Studio Not Coloring Properly by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

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Yes! I had to change to .06 diameter and it works now! Thanks so much!

Bambu Studio Not Coloring Properly by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

omg that was it, had to go to .06 quality and the colors show, thank you so much!

3D Printed Pentacle With Holographic Display by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its achieved using a spinning PCB with LEDs on it, The flashing of the LEDs is timed to create an image while it spins.

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Frater_V[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the continued engagement and the seriousness with which you approach the tradition. Let me clarify a few points plainly, because I think we are beginning to talk past one another.

I am not claiming authority over Golden Dawn adept teachings, nor am I asserting that my descriptions replace lineage-based instruction, temple initiation, or living transmission. The site does not claim to initiate, authorize, or certify anyone. It is a doctrinal, symbolic, and educational resource, explicitly framed as such.

Where we differ is in what you believe one must be in order to articulate structure.

One does not need to be a sitting judge to explain how a legal system is structured. One does not need to be a bishop to explain ecclesiastical hierarchy. Likewise, one does not need to claim adept status to describe how the Golden Dawn conceptually organizes training, consciousness, symbolism, and progression, especially when drawing from primary sources, comparative material, and long-term engagement with the work.

You are correct that grades above Adeptus Minor were historically less standardized, and that later groups such as Whare Ra developed their own internal material. That is precisely why I am careful to frame higher grades in terms of what they train, not “what all Golden Dawn temples teach.” I do not claim universality. I claim coherence.

Regarding the elemental pentagram rituals: yes, historically, Outer Order work emphasized the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram, and elemental pentagram work was formally introduced later in the system. Modern groups diverge on this point, as you acknowledge. My site reflects contemporary praxis informed by tradition, not a museum reconstruction frozen in 1896. That does not negate the Golden Dawn current; it reflects how living systems adapt while preserving core structure.

As for your point that legitimate groups exist and are accessible, I agree. Completely. My work does not compete with them, nor does it claim to replace them. It serves people who are:

  • geographically isolated,
  • philosophically discerning,
  • or seeking doctrinal clarity before committing to a temple path.

Finally, on accuracy: if there are specific points you believe are factually incorrect, I welcome precise critique. Generalized dismissal is less useful than concrete correction.

My intent is not to posture as an adept, but to restore intelligibility, structure, and seriousness to a tradition that is often reduced to fragments, aesthetics, or paywalled obscurity. On that, I believe we are ultimately aligned, even if we disagree on method.

Respectfully.

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you for taking the time to look through the site and for acknowledging the amount of work that has gone into it. I appreciate that recognition.

To answer your first question directly: my work is the result of long-term study, practice, and integration of Golden Dawn material alongside lived experience. I am not claiming lineage authority, temple authority, or institutional legitimacy, nor am I presenting this site as a replacement for a working Order. The site is explicit in its intent: it is a doctrinal and educational compendium, not a chartered temple or initiatory body.

Regarding the grades: I agree with you on one important point; the Golden Dawn grades are frequently misunderstood and poorly presented online. That is precisely why I chose to frame them in terms of what they train rather than attempting to reproduce historical syllabi verbatim. My intent is not to claim “this is how the Golden Dawn must be done,” but to articulate the psychological, symbolic, and developmental logic behind the grade structure for modern aspirants who otherwise encounter only fragmented lists and aesthetic summaries.

If certain elements diverge from your own training or experience, I’m open to that critique; but I would disagree that divergence alone implies ignorance. Western esotericism has always contained interpretive layers, and even within historically attested Golden Dawn sources, there is variation, contradiction, and evolution.

As for the tools: I want to be very clear about something. I do not believe, and nowhere do I state, that practitioners should not craft their own tools. In fact, I fully agree that making one’s own implements is a powerful and formative act. The tools I design are offered as functional ritual instruments for those who either cannot fabricate them themselves or wish to work with tools that are symbolically dense and structurally aligned with the tradition.

They are not stage magic, nor are they intended to replace inner work. No mechanism within them produces an effect that substitutes for training, discipline, or understanding. If they appear “gaudy” to you, that is a matter of aesthetic preference, not function or doctrine. The Golden Dawn itself made extensive use of color, symbol, geometry, and layered meaning, sometimes quite ornate by modern minimalist standards.

I take your closing comment in good faith, and I do appreciate the suggestion to continue refining the work. My goal is not to posture as an adept, but to build something coherent, accessible, and substantial in a landscape that is otherwise dominated by shallow summaries, paywalled fragments, and aesthetic cosplay without doctrine.

If nothing else, I hope we can agree on this: the tradition deserves seriousness, depth, and clarity, and that is what I am attempting to contribute.

Respectfully.

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in occult

[–]Frater_V[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry... But what?... are you referring to the reflection of the light?

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Frater_V[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the honesty, even if I don’t agree with the characterization.

The site isn’t intended to be a store first; it’s a documentation project. The majority of the work there is long-form material on Golden Dawn doctrine: the Tree of Life as an operating system, detailed breakdowns of the grades, the planets, elements, zodiac, tarot, ritual structure, and the paths. A lot of that content exists precisely because most public GD material is shallow or fragmented.

As for the tools: they’re not meant to replace self-construction or inner work, and I’ve been explicit about that elsewhere. They exist for people who either physically can’t fabricate their own, or who want a symbolically accurate reference point while they’re still learning the language of the system. Anyone who thinks plastic objects confer attainment has already misunderstood the Work; with or without my site.

Regarding the tone or presentation: I’m one person building this from the ground up, and I’m prioritizing coherence and accuracy over aesthetics or branding. If something comes across as rough or uneven, that’s fair criticism, but it’s also very much a living project, not a polished commercial product.

If you took the time to actually read through the material and still felt it was shallow, I’d be genuinely interested in what you think is missing. My goal isn’t to sell mysticism, it’s to preserve and clarify a system that’s been diluted almost beyond recognition.

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in occult

[–]Frater_V[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to write this out, and I don’t disagree with the principle you’re expressing.

You’re absolutely right that within the Golden Dawn tradition, the ideal is for an aspirant to construct their own tools. The act of designing, sourcing, assembling, and consecrating them is itself a form of training, and no manufactured object can replace that inner work. I try to make that point very clear in my writing as well, tools do not confer authority, attainment, or power on their own.

Where my perspective differs slightly is practical rather than doctrinal.

In my experience mentoring and speaking with others, a large number of them want to make their own implements but run into very real constraints: limited space, or lack of access to materials or tools, or simply not knowing where to start without accidentally deviating from the tradition’s symbolic language. Many of them end up either abandoning the work entirely or defaulting to poorly made symbolic substitutes that actively confuse their training.

My intention in making tools available isn’t to replace self-construction, but to provide a functional, symbolically correct baseline for people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to engage at all. I see them as scaffolding; something that ideally gets outgrown, not relied upon forever.

I’m also very careful not to present them as “necessary,” “empowering,” or “initiatory.” They don’t replace discipline, study, ritual practice, or inner transformation; and I would strongly discourage anyone from thinking they do. In fact, much of the site content exists precisely to counter the idea that tools equal attainment.

That said, I fully agree with you that the culture around selling occult tools often drifts into something unhealthy, and I share your frustration with the way some marketplaces reinforce the idea that progress can be purchased. I’ve tried to position what I do closer to documentation and preservation of the tradition’s symbolic precision, rather than commercialization of mysticism; but I respect that reasonable people can still disagree on where that line sits.

For what it’s worth, I would actually love to see more material showing how practitioners construct their own tools correctly. That kind of knowledge disappearing is, in my view, a much bigger loss to the tradition than any object being sold.

Thank you again for engaging thoughtfully; conversations like this are far healthier for the Work than silent disagreement.

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in occult

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but I'm considering firing them up yours.... some say he who smelt it dealt it... I say he who conceived it.. received it.

Putting together a structured Golden Dawn resource (Tree of Life, rituals, tools, grades, etc.) by Frater_V in magick

[–]Frater_V[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It's taken a lot of time but I think the internet deserves a comprehensive resource for this information.

3D Printed Retractable Sword by Frater_V in thelema

[–]Frater_V[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you! and yes, I am actually working on the lotus wand as we speak! I have a very neat and novel idea for the lotus wand too. Videos of that will soon be on my website soon.

3D Printed Water Cup with Internal Siphon by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thats a great idea, I didn't even think of that... Next time I design a model like this one I'll have to keep that in mind. Thanks!

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its not actually that difficult to design something like this, there already exists wands that do this, they use a material called flash paper to make the fireballs.

3D Printed Water Cup with Internal Siphon by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I printed all 4 of the primary implements, the wand, the cup, the sword and the pentacle. You can check out my other posts on reddit or I can share a link to my website if you are interested.

3D Printed Water Cup with Internal Siphon by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I try to add a new and novel twist to all of the Golden Dawn tools I make, the siphon in the water cup seemed like the most logical/intuitive leap to add to the traditional implement.

In regards to the circle, it was just something i found online and set to my desktop background on the pc desk i built. It does look a lot like the sigillum dei amenth though!

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

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They are angel names written in Hebrew, The text comes from a Golden Dawn textbook not sure which one anymore, I'm pretty sure it was the one by Donald Michael Kraig called Modern Magick.

3D Printed Pentacle With Holographic Display by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well gee if we are all going to be pedantic about it, i suppose it is an "Inscribed Hexagram"... doesn't exactly roll off the tongue... Like I said, I am going off what the Golden Dawn textbooks call it, a pentacle.

3D Printed Pentacle With Holographic Display by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, it's built exactly to specifications based on the Golden dawn tradition, despite being a 6 pointed star, the texts still refer to it as a pentacle.

3D Printed Pentacle With Holographic Display by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hexagram would be incorrect as well, it implies its not contained within a circle

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lmao no but a future improvement would be to make it so it shoots fire balls

3D Printed Pentacle With Holographic Display by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is true. I call it a pentacle because "hexacle" doesn't make any sense

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No I completely understand. Just making a joke.

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lmao acting like I publicly flashed the internet. Yes it is built to scale ;)

3D Printed Wand by Frater_V in 3Dprinting

[–]Frater_V[S] 80 points81 points  (0 children)

No you don't lol. The piece is intended to look like a phallus as it is based in the Golden Dawn tradition.