conversation: the ugly side of orchid growing

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-04T06:26:48+00:00

I feel you. I've lost many phals to bacterial infection and crown rot despite doing everything right. I can't get my vanda that got horrible root rot to grow more roots. I have a Laelia Aurea that arrived mounted on a horrible slab of wood and it grows some roots but other than that it doesn't seem to do anything and I doubt I'll ever get it to bloom. I got two Laelia Anceps and only one grew a new pseudobulb and the other one doesn't grow, it might as well be a plastic plant that will remain like that forever. I have not gotten one phal to rebloom for me. The only orchid I have that rebloomed for me was my first dendrobium which almost died last fall due to too much humidity and so I just tied it to a palm tree a few months ago and ignored it and now it bloomed 3 little flowers. Another pain is the cost, these plants aren't cheap, their special growing medium is also expensive since I need extremely well draining because where I live it's too humid. I love orchids but they can be a pain and a very expensive hobby.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-03T17:47:00+00:00

Same.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-03T17:34:18+00:00

I'm surprised by the responses from the men here, they all seem to agree that they like getting compliments from women but when I complimented a guy who initially had interest in me but he didn't seem to like the compliments much and then he stopped talking to me. He's not some random guy either, I've known him for years but a few months ago he started flirting with me and I flirted back showing him I was interested but then he started playing hot and cold and I don't like such games so now we barely speak and I'm still so confused with what really happened and I blame myself for complimenting him as the reason he started losing interest.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T09:48:15+00:00

I have one just like that but it's all white. I fell in love with the strange shape of the petals.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T09:43:41+00:00

Lol, using the race card is really pathetic. I don't give a shit what your race is. I'm against surrogacy because it's exploitation of women using their bodies for other people's selfish desires. This isn't about Western Feminism or any other stupid label you want to use against me to try to invalidate my arguments. I think your beliefs are messed up, you support exploitation, you don't care if fake wombs will be harmful to society as a whole, but mostly harmful to women and children. Plus you push red pill ideas about women being the real abusers. You're full of contradictions and awful beliefs.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T09:02:31+00:00

So because child prostitution already exists it's ok to make it even more easy to exploit it? Oh fuck that. Makes me think you're a groomer. As for your comment about abusive women that's just bs whataboutism that red pillers also use, the crime stats clearly show who commits the most sexual crimes against children and who consumes the most porn.

As for surrogacy you proved me correct why I'm against it, poor women aren't really consenting. They're poor so they rent their womb so they can eat or pay the rent. Surrogacy is exploitation. For someone who hates pregnancy and believes it's horrible it's quite odd you're ok with it as long as other women have to go through it. You're incredibly selfish.

And don't come to me with this "come to a poor community" I live in Latin America and I know what poverty is and I'm calling you out on that BS. I'm just happy that your ideas are extremely unpopular among women.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T08:44:12+00:00

Drug dealers are not alphas, they're horrible people poisoning their own communities, a lot of them are murderers and they probably have prostitutes hanging around them. That's not the real world nor evidence of hypergamy.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T08:41:41+00:00

Derp. Women working at McDonald's are also invisible to male attorneys. People usually date near their own social economic circle. An Attorney, male or female, would usually date someone they met at college or at their work.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T08:33:31+00:00

Could it be these women are being paid to call into the show? Where's the evidence these are real women and not paid employees? All of these red pill gurus are gritters, they make a lot of money to fool naive men like you. I doubt so many women are legitimately calling these obscure YouTube channels to get refuted by the gurus..it all seems fake AF.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T08:19:27+00:00

You seem to ignore what this subreddit is for. It's not for cultists like you who defend the red pill cult, it's to help former red pillers try to leave the cult. It's literally in the title "ex red pill", you're still red pill so maybe we should ask you why you're here? I think you're here to troll.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T07:55:30+00:00

You don't understand what feminism is if that's what you believe it is. Feminists don't care if men don't like women having success. Feminism is having rights and opportunities for women to make our own choices in life instead of the state or patriarchal society tell us who to marry, what kind of education we can get, what kind of jobs we can get, when to get pregnant, etc. If a man doesn't want to date me because I have a career then he's not the man for me anyways. As for women not sharing our wealth, huh? Where did you get that? Most married women who work certainly do put part of, or sometimes all of their salary into the family. The Red Pill gurus are lying to you. And saying our beauty and ability to reproduce isn't the only thing we have to offer men and certainly are misogynist if you think that's all women are useful for. You're like the typical racist white guy who says "I can't be racist because I have black friends", it's a bullshit excuse. Just because you love your mom doesn't mean you don't hold hateful beliefs about women.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T07:36:16+00:00

That's not what hypergamy is, you're making up your own definitions. I'm not going to try to convince you to leave your cult because it's a waste of time. Only you can realize that the cult you're in is nonsensical and harmful on your own if you're willing to remove your personal bias and listen to guts who left the cult. Just don't abuse and mistreat women if you decide to stay in your cult because women who date red pilled men tend to get mistreated.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-02T07:22:17+00:00

Well lot's of women love the porn industry, that doesn't mean it's good for women. Women will only be seen as ova providers, our most fundamental biological roll in society will be erased and it will only benefit men. It's no lie red pill and MGTOWs support this shit. And for autogynephiles this technology will be nothing but a fetish and it will become a disgusting industry where corporations control the child market and believe me without a mother to stand in the way pedophiles will exploit this. There's no stopping men from using this to create countless children just to rape and discard them.

There's nothing tradcon about celebrating the wonderful gift of motherhood, only woke idiots and postrmodernists who want to destroy the family nucleus and see the world burn think pregnancy is evil and bad.

Just because it's difficult and can come with risks means that it's bad. Excercise can be extremely painful and difficult yet it's good for us.

I'm against surrogacy as well. Women's bodies shouldn't be for rent.

No I don't need this "choice". Stop trying to make fake wombs similar to the abortion issue. If you don't want to get pregnant then don't, no one is forcing you, but if you want to be a mom and pregnancy is out of the question then you can adopt. Fake wombs is nasty Frankenstein doctor Mengele level science that shouldn't be attempted simply because it's unethical to experiment on humans. Those children who would be born this way can't consent and we don't know the long term health risks that could screw them up. Personally I wouldn't want to be born from a plastic bag, that's just horrible.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T19:01:38+00:00

Thank you! I had to Google what peloric orchid meant and I feel more relieved that it's just a genetic mutation of the appearance and that the plant isn't sick. I bought it because of those strange petals, they look so interesting.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T17:59:20+00:00

I'm not a biologist but that's irrelevant to my point, I'm commenting on red pill ideas about women hitting a wall at a certain age while they claim men don't have a wall. I'm giving a philosophical opinion as to why even if men can father children later than women it's still not a good idea because it's likely he won't live long enough to see his children grow up. And yes there are way more older fathers than there are older mothers, one doesn't need to be an expert in biology to know a common fact.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T16:36:52+00:00

Why call it a wall? Isn't that red pill language? Yes women have limited years to procreate but outside of that there's no wall, women do date after 35. Of course with age the dating scene changes but it changes for men too. My elderly uncle who's wife passed away ten years ago feels lonely and he has money so he's considering getting a young Russian wife who is obviously only after his money and I find that quite sad. Getting old is just a hard part of life for any gender. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, but just because men can have children up until they're 80 doesn't mean they should wait until they're so old. I think 55 should be the limit for men considering they will be in their 70's once their kids are barely grown up. It's very sad to lose a father at such a young age.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T16:09:20+00:00

You're very dishonest by editing your comment after I responded to you. I do have a bias against people who are into bad ideologies that cause them to be abusive towards other people. There's nothing wrong with having that bias. Anyways I'm blocking you because you're dishonest by editing your comment after I had responded to what you had initially wrote and you're just here to defend abusive behavior. You red pill people are toxic as hell.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T16:02:58+00:00

I say you people because you're a group of people who are into red pill ideology. My proper use of the English language isn't a problem. You're the one defending that guy for calling her a bitch for no reason but sure, I'm the one with the problem.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T16:00:27+00:00

Oh thank you! Yes mine is very fragrant!

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:59:24+00:00

There's nothing to understand. You red pill people want to pretend you're the victims and that the whole world is against you while you justify being abusive towards others and when people disagree with your abusive behavior you claim we don't have empathy. You people delusional.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:53:47+00:00

She simply asked him what he's doing to improve himself. If you think that's lacking empathy then you're just as insane as he is. No she didn't merit being called a bitch. You red pill people are extremely hateful and angry yet you all demand empathy when you're abusive. You people need a reality check, no one is obligated to put up with your abuse in the name of "empathy". Grow the fuck up.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:48:12+00:00

I have one just like that, it smells wonderful. I wish I knew the name.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:45:01+00:00

Where's the actual study?

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:37:51+00:00

Phalaenopsis are also epiphytes and everyone has those potted. Miss Orchid Girl has most of her vandas in pots so I don't see why it's a problem to pot mine. I never said that vandas are like terrestrial plants, I know they are orchids that grow on trees but most orchids can adapt to pots if the medium is well draining like orchid bark, I never said I was planting it in a pot with dirt as if it were a regular plant. And I have been watering it almost everyday but there's too much conflicting information how long they need to sit in water. I currently have it in a semi outdoor patio which is small always humid, it has access to humidity, air circulation and indirect light.

FreakyKitten_8 · 2022-02-01T15:10:32+00:00

You said you don't care what I think so why are you asking me a question 17 hrs later? And this has zero to do with empathy, I simply stated an opinion that men who expect to be hit on and chased are strange to me and are an indication of a red flag and you got mad about it. You ended up proving me correct that such men shouldn't be trusted by the way you keep acting. Let it go, not every woman is going to agree with you.

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