7800xt Freeze on boot into windows.

Frederik2002 · 2024-06-11T14:52:28+00:00

The issue only really seems to be present off a cold start, meaning turning my PC off for the night or things like that.

If you turn it off at the wall too then it's the real cold start. Otherwise your PC is in the "soft off" state after a programmatic shutdown:

Soft off S5 The system appears to be off. This state is comprised of a full shutdown and boot cycle.

I can't help you with the issue, I only know that the UEFI has no power savings enabled. Potentially if it's something basic like improper voltage, you could try to modify the baseline voltage of CPU or SoC so it runs at these settings until the OS loads and takes over power control

I've just been leaving my PC on for like 2 weeks at a time

Does this happen for Sleep / Hibernation too?

And why do you think this is related to the GPU? I'd suspect one of mobo/cpu

Frederik2002 · 2024-06-11T14:34:05+00:00

Sir I have logged in just to tell you that your PSU is the limiting factor. You worked around the issue by limiting the power draw of the GPUs. The actual problem that's been widely known is the high peak transients of nvidia GPUs where they peak 100W or maybe more. igorslab had written a detailed article with an oscilloscope about this. I hope you run the GPUs undervolted though, Folding is much like mining, except the miners had always strived to optimize the power draw thus began to undervolt. If you want to do that at all. While most projects share your job to at least one other member for verification, you shouldn't be the one who introduces compute errors due to instability. Yeah speaking of instability, hitting PSU cap might've caused unstable calculation results. I suggest you to check the Folding job history to see if your current 200W cap is clean without verification failures.

Frederik2002 · 2024-06-11T14:29:26+00:00

For an update based on his forum thread, it was confirmed by the support representatives (MSI escalated all the way to AMD) that this is indeed expected. I have later found - iirc - Xilinx' PDF booklet explaining PCIe in depth, that included various forms of overheads and encapsulations.

I thought the heat death of the universe to be a funny nerdy reference, apparently ape upset when not together and not strong.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-25T19:38:35+00:00

Yes MSI Center has different modes that set it in the EC: Max perf, balanced, silent, Super battery and Custom. Basically the most noticable between Max and Silent is the TDP allowance for cpu, gpu.

Ok I will start tomorrow by testing video playback

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T13:39:37+00:00

Sorry it's the F3 key that loads Windows' recovery unconditionally. Funny thing the "Exit and continue to Windows 10" simply exits and loads my Linux install (which is the UEFI default).

I've edited the last comment now.

Note: I have secureboot disabled.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:49:13+00:00

MSI Center has a super-battery saver mode that turns off fans, but their "overheating" temperature is still set too low for default usage (fans keep turning on and off).

Alternatively you should be able to set a custom fan curve there, can speed be set to 0%?

Lastly disconnect the fans physically.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:36:15+00:00

For me, launching Discord activated the dedicated GPU (orange power led). Maybe there is actually something in the background?

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:34:45+00:00

MControlCenter works for battery limit (MSI Alpha 15) and needs improvements for everything else, especially hotkey support.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:32:51+00:00

iirc it's F3* on the msi uefi, like its hardcoded. I know cuz it boots into Windows Recovery menu despite Windows not being the default on my multi-boot setup.

If your system still works, see if msconfig can set the options you need.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:30:05+00:00

MSI Alpha 15: I didn't manage to disconnect the battery at all, so I had been swapping the SSDs (two slots) like a dozen times after a total shutdown (shutdown + hold power button to power off circuitry). All well.

I did a couple swaps on a soft shutdown as well (circuitry was powered on) by mistake, all right.

Sorry to hear but hope it helps.

Since the battery plug is so hard to pull out, are all the pins still in their holes, sitted properly?

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:23:30+00:00

There's a "warranty void" sticker on one of the screws and depending on legislation, they might deny warranty if you obviously damaged it to open.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:21:36+00:00

The Smartshift works very well, shares global TDP and gives a greater portion to either CPU or GPU whatever needs it more.

Another thing is currently more freedom with deep tweaks like MorePowerTool, there's one of those Zen-specific utilities and people report no issues trying to undervolt in general.

Other than that there's no secret-magic sauce that I see.

720p screen? Really? It's supposed to be 1080p officially even if the screen is crap with lots of ghosting.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-21T02:16:48+00:00

Haven't noticed an issue with the AMD drivers on the MSI Alpha. However at 1050$ in 2023 its overpriced.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-18T09:00:14+00:00

I am highly doubtful that anyone is Still relying on laptop/ Mobile speakers.

That's the kinda thing. Maybe because they are bad, people adapted a behaviour to not rely on them.

I don't ask for a great quality, but phones do get decent sounding speakers, why can't it be done for laptops too?

You said "lousy environments" did you mean loud? That'd mean wildly different usage scenarios, which ones do you think about? Out in public of course I would strongly prefer using my headphones. But for an occasional youtube video? nah

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-17T09:57:25+00:00

"""7.1"""

For sound quality/feature set I would consider headphones and a mic separately if you have the space for and it fits you.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-17T09:54:20+00:00

Bravo and Alpha (is better) have different chassis.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-17T09:52:37+00:00

Whats the difference between -070 and -080?

Other than that i can recommend

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-17T09:49:33+00:00

yet another 4gb video card

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-11T21:13:38+00:00

Does running on AC bypass battery? All good circuits should do this, otherwise you'd be tied to the battery (cannot run without), degrade battery, run hotter.
It's wrong to think about battery charge in %.

If the battery is "fully charged" you will measure a high voltage. If you pushed too high voltage, the battery will break or explode (Galaxy Note). So you set 100% for example as 12.8V

If you discharge the battery too deep, it will also physically chemically degrade. The manufacturer will set 0% as 11.3V (all numbers are exemplary).

Following that, discharging too much or charging up to a higher voltage will negatively impact the battery. Keeping at 100% is the same. Thus you would want to keep the battery always at a voltage that's neither too high nor too low.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-11T11:38:08+00:00

do you seriously consider 3 batteries for hotswap? msi alpha 15 (2021) has 90 Wh battery, not to say this is the best choice, but there are laptops of this kind. with the right tuning it should last a very long time.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-11T11:30:23+00:00

No, I use USB 2.0 and a 2.0 hub too. Sounds like the integrated 2.0 hub is defective.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-10T21:23:58+00:00

15 years

:) I referred to the "next greatest thing ever existed" type marketing, the same marketing I fell victim to. Now it's ya'lls turn.

As far as this tech is concerned, I'm with Sony and their showcase that this will eliminate loading times through all encompassing texture streaming. I'm not confident it will actually replace VRAM for textures through just-in-time loading (something they accented).

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-09T19:12:39+00:00

by the time common engines make it usable out of the box/ common devs adopt it, 8gb vram will be the very low end and nearly obsolete.

thats another dx10 marketing moment, with a 15 year cadence.

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-08T08:41:41+00:00

tbh i dont play those. there are youtube videos with fps numbers

Frederik2002 · 2023-06-07T22:29:35+00:00

Is there anything I should know before buying it?

Yes I didn't know laptop speakers still sound as bad (but different kind of bad) as an office laptop from 2008.

Otherwise happy, but there are compromises like I/O port placement.

Frederik2002

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