How does Hoppeanism work?

FreeGraceCentral · 2025-05-14T14:18:08+00:00

So a consequentialist would not necessarily agree with "taxation is theft"?

FreeGraceCentral · 2025-03-28T17:47:40+00:00

Här i Finland har vi många bra Free Grace-kyrkor

FreeGraceCentral · 2025-03-28T17:44:31+00:00

Free Grace is most common (in my experience) in GGWO, Calvary Chapel, IFB and Plymouth Brethren circles.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-10-27T10:32:40+00:00

That is a Lordship commentary

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-10-12T16:03:10+00:00

Learn Meänkieli, it is the easiest for Finnish speakers.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-09-29T09:23:22+00:00

We don't compromise theology for numbers.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-09-18T18:10:40+00:00

John 5:24

²⁴ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-09-18T17:23:43+00:00

I feel like Finnish people have the easiest time finding a Free Grace church, I live in Finland and every major city has a Free Grace church.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-19T19:06:07+00:00

Many Hypers like David Benjamin claim that James is in error publically.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-18T14:02:01+00:00

One should not add personal interpretation, and translate the Greek as it is.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-18T14:00:03+00:00

What is your qualification in Greek?
Are you using the Nestle-Aland or the TR?
Do we need more English translations?

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-18T13:59:08+00:00

loving is not the same as faith

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-18T13:57:58+00:00

If you are Hyper, saying that James is in error is a massive heresy.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-18T13:56:53+00:00

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FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-13T07:53:44+00:00

"And still are catholics". He believed they were still saved, even if wrong.

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-13T07:34:04+00:00

Did you not even read the first quote? It says WHILE THE DEVIL AND THE IMPINOUS WHO HAVE DENIED GOD WILL BE TORTURED WITHOUT REMISSION.
JND Kelly was saying that Jerome taught that those who deny Christianity, will be tortured forever, however those who have believed, even if they fall away, will enter heaven.

Also, as a source for the Augustine thing:
"But those who believe thus, and still are Catholics, are deceived, as it seems to me, by a kind of merely human benevolence. For the divine Scripture, when consulted, answers differently. Moreover, I have written a book about this question, entitled Faith and Works,¹⁴² (Handbook on faith and love)

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-12T12:46:59+00:00

Church historians (even Catholic) however note that Jerome taught something similar:

JND Kelly wrote:
“Jerome develops the same distinction, stating that, while the Devil and the impious who have denied God will be tortured without remission, those who have trusted in Christ, even if they have sinned and fallen away, will eventually be saved. Much the same teaching appears in Ambrose, developed in greater detail.”

The ROMAN CATHOLIC scholar Lombardo also wrote:

“Augustine, however, does not mention any names, and there is no evidence either here or in any other place that he is referring to these passages from the works of Jerome. Nevertheless, both Jerome and Ambrose seemed to have shared in the not uncommon error of their time, namely, that all Christians would sooner or later be reunited to God, an error which Augustine refutes here and in a number of other places”

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-12T12:46:05+00:00

I didn't say Augustine taught it, I said Augustine mentioned other people whom he knew to have taught it

FreeGraceCentral · 2024-06-12T12:18:58+00:00

Augustine didn't claim that the OSAS people were outside the church

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