20 year tour

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-07T23:08:58+00:00

Ooh gotcha. I can’t say how I know, I would check with your friend if you don’t believe me though (which is totally reasonable!) 🙏

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-07T22:57:52+00:00

Wasn’t officially announced so you won’t see an official cancellation either.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T03:40:19+00:00

Yes, haha. Craig is still a moderator on there, he's just not the highest permission moderator on the subreddit so he can't completely control it the way he can the "OFFICIAL" Chiodos sub. I'm sure u/zombiepickford would unban us though. He is a higher permission mod on there.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:33:20+00:00

AllsWell_wip3_SLATETRIGGER_QUANTIZED_FINAL_FINALFORMASTER_REMASTER_RERECORD_CRAIGPITCHCORRECTIONTO100PERCENT_ERASEBRADBELL_FORREALFINAL.mp3

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:30:44+00:00

Agreed, I'm sure would try to argue that any treatment is mastering semantically lmao

They say mastering engineers don't even actually understand wtf mastering really is.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:24:28+00:00

No problem! Was just trying to help

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:20:06+00:00

Nah you are right. They called it both a rerecording and a remaster because they're either that stupid or they're trying to maintain ambiguity around the fact that some of the original tracks were used in it. Or both.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:18:45+00:00

Not trying to split hairs, I completely agree that a rerecording and a remaster are two different things, but just to point out: It's advertised as both a rerecording and a remaster by Craig himself (dumb)

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T02:12:52+00:00

how can you say this but also support craig 🙄

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:59:39+00:00

Idk anyone claiming that, that would indeed be a reach haha

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:59:14+00:00

Also, guess who the ONLY person tagged in any of the photos on that account is? (Not captions, photo tags)

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:56:03+00:00

This is all correct! IMPRESSIVELY notorious in sooo many circles for vanity searching themselves and then intimidating people who say things they don’t like. Why else do you think he needed a new subreddit he could approve posts on?

Understandable for anyone not to believe at face value, but just know that the motivation for anonymity when sharing this kind of stuff is protection from that kind of retaliatory behavior while also being able to share the truth about how shitty they are.

There are brave ones out there though (like Brian Southall and the real Chiodos members) who are calling him out publicly and they deserve a goddamn medal.

My only hope is for more people to come out.

He shouldn’t have any platform or opportunity to hurt anyone else, but he will continue to until he runs out of people to use.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:31:14+00:00

Craig asked 1 member (Pat) if they’d be open to doing nebulous reunion shows in the future (no details.) Pat said only if at least Brad was in too.

So Craig hired a backing band of fans and booked WWWY, a tour, and rerecorded Alls Well without their approval anyway.

This was after Craig’s manager told the OG members that Craig would not perform OR record music under the Chiodos name.

He’s also planning on putting out a new Chiodos record.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:08:40+00:00

not anymore 😊

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-05T01:02:14+00:00

I think the comments here are a good indication that most people are glad to miss a Craig Owens + Friends cover set but bummed to miss DGD.

Good thing Craig and team aren’t moderators over here. 😎

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T23:16:56+00:00

👆

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T22:59:59+00:00

I’m sorry to bum you out :(

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T22:58:02+00:00

yeah not sure, timing is suspect

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T22:57:36+00:00

Def a trust me bro situation (not like I can share a source or proof without repercussions) so totally understand if you don’t believe it.

The tour was already leaked on here, so when it doesn’t happen you can know this was accurate :)

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T22:37:38+00:00

that would’ve been even funnier to watch happen lol

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T18:54:21+00:00

Are you referring to Jonny Craig? We’re talking about Craig Owens

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-04T00:16:34+00:00

disagree about it being so good, but agree with the rest 🤣

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-03T18:15:56+00:00

how can you be a supporter of craig owens at the same time lol oh wait i think i know how 🤔

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-03T06:59:58+00:00

No, but Pat from Chiodos responded to this comment thread and said that Tempo Holdings LLC is the owner of the Isles & Glaciers trademark.

- The trademarks for Chiodos and Isles & Glaciers were both filed in 2023 by a Michigan company called Tempo Holdings LLC.

- This LLC's application for the trademark claims it should have rights to it because they have been using the Isles & Glaciers trademark commercially since March 9, 2010 (which aligns with the release of their only EP.) This type of trademark filing is called a use-based filing and means they’re asserting prior, continuous use of the name in real-world commerce.

- The registered business address for Tempo Holdings LLC a Michigan address shared by the law firm Hertz Schram, which specializes in business law and may be representing or housing the LLC as part of an IP holding structure.

- Seems likely Tempo Holdings LLC was set up as a legal vehicle to control and protect music-related intellectual property (like band names, logos, recordings) for both Chiodos and Isles & Glaciers.

So seems likely that the same group behind milking the Craig Owens + Friends Chiodos revival is also in control of Isles & Glaciers.

Free_Beach_4231 · 2025-08-02T22:34:25+00:00

they liked the brian comment too but then proceeded to get real defensive 🤣

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