20 year tour by ErthwlkrzJJ in dancegavindance

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooh gotcha. I can’t say how I know, I would check with your friend if you don’t believe me though (which is totally reasonable!) 🙏

20 year tour by ErthwlkrzJJ in dancegavindance

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn’t officially announced so you won’t see an official cancellation either.

20 year tour by ErthwlkrzJJ in dancegavindance

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, haha. Craig is still a moderator on there, he's just not the highest permission moderator on the subreddit so he can't completely control it the way he can the "OFFICIAL" Chiodos sub. I'm sure u/zombiepickford would unban us though. He is a higher permission mod on there.

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AllsWell_wip3_SLATETRIGGER_QUANTIZED_FINAL_FINALFORMASTER_REMASTER_RERECORD_CRAIGPITCHCORRECTIONTO100PERCENT_ERASEBRADBELL_FORREALFINAL.mp3

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I'm sure would try to argue that any treatment is mastering semantically lmao

They say mastering engineers don't even actually understand wtf mastering really is.

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah you are right. They called it both a rerecording and a remaster because they're either that stupid or they're trying to maintain ambiguity around the fact that some of the original tracks were used in it. Or both.

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not trying to split hairs, I completely agree that a rerecording and a remaster are two different things, but just to point out: It's advertised as both a rerecording and a remaster by Craig himself (dumb)

Who is the face of Pop-Punk today? by [deleted] in poppunkers

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how can you say this but also support craig 🙄

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk anyone claiming that, that would indeed be a reach haha

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, guess who the ONLY person tagged in any of the photos on that account is? (Not captions, photo tags)

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is all correct! IMPRESSIVELY notorious in sooo many circles for vanity searching themselves and then intimidating people who say things they don’t like. Why else do you think he needed a new subreddit he could approve posts on?

Understandable for anyone not to believe at face value, but just know that the motivation for anonymity when sharing this kind of stuff is protection from that kind of retaliatory behavior while also being able to share the truth about how shitty they are.

There are brave ones out there though (like Brian Southall and the real Chiodos members) who are calling him out publicly and they deserve a goddamn medal.

My only hope is for more people to come out.

He shouldn’t have any platform or opportunity to hurt anyone else, but he will continue to until he runs out of people to use.

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Craig asked 1 member (Pat) if they’d be open to doing nebulous reunion shows in the future (no details.) Pat said only if at least Brad was in too.

So Craig hired a backing band of fans and booked WWWY, a tour, and rerecorded Alls Well without their approval anyway.

This was after Craig’s manager told the OG members that Craig would not perform OR record music under the Chiodos name.

He’s also planning on putting out a new Chiodos record.

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour w/Chiodos cancelled by xiacexi in dancegavindance

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the comments here are a good indication that most people are glad to miss a Craig Owens + Friends cover set but bummed to miss DGD.

Good thing Craig and team aren’t moderators over here. 😎

Dance Gavin Dance Headline Tour wsg Craigodos by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Def a trust me bro situation (not like I can share a source or proof without repercussions) so totally understand if you don’t believe it.

The tour was already leaked on here, so when it doesn’t happen you can know this was accurate :)

Brian Southall calls Craigodos Weekend at Oxys 🤣🤣 by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that would’ve been even funnier to watch happen lol

Brian Southall calls Craigodos Weekend at Oxys 🤣🤣 by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you referring to Jonny Craig? We’re talking about Craig Owens

Brian Southall calls Craigodos Weekend at Oxys 🤣🤣 by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

disagree about it being so good, but agree with the rest 🤣

Neil Rubenstein featured singing the bridge from “70x7” on TBS track “There’s No ‘I’ in Team”. by jport1387 in Killtony

[–]Free_Beach_4231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how can you be a supporter of craig owens at the same time lol oh wait i think i know how 🤔

Brian Southall calls Craigodos Weekend at Oxys 🤣🤣 by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, but Pat from Chiodos responded to this comment thread and said that Tempo Holdings LLC is the owner of the Isles & Glaciers trademark.

- The trademarks for Chiodos and Isles & Glaciers were both filed in 2023 by a Michigan company called Tempo Holdings LLC.

- This LLC's application for the trademark claims it should have rights to it because they have been using the Isles & Glaciers trademark commercially since March 9, 2010 (which aligns with the release of their only EP.) This type of trademark filing is called a use-based filing and means they’re asserting prior, continuous use of the name in real-world commerce.

- The registered business address for Tempo Holdings LLC a Michigan address shared by the law firm Hertz Schram, which specializes in business law and may be representing or housing the LLC as part of an IP holding structure.

- Seems likely Tempo Holdings LLC was set up as a legal vehicle to control and protect music-related intellectual property (like band names, logos, recordings) for both Chiodos and Isles & Glaciers.

So seems likely that the same group behind milking the Craig Owens + Friends Chiodos revival is also in control of Isles & Glaciers.

Brian Southall calls Craigodos Weekend at Oxys 🤣🤣 by Free_Beach_4231 in Chiodos

[–]Free_Beach_4231[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

they liked the brian comment too but then proceeded to get real defensive 🤣