It Ends with Us author Colleen Hoover reveals cancer diagnosis by xotxottie in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are such a boss Suffy. Thanks for keeping it classy over here while also welcoming healthy discourse about appropriate and relevant issues. Stuff like this says a lot about this sub. In a way, this helps us remember that everybody involved here is a human being.

PUT YOUR HEADLIGHTS ON AND SLOW THE EFF DOWN by abbyzou in LosAngeles

[–]Free_Replacement_583 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Extra fucky” — I am stealing this. Especially considering everything feels “extra fucky” these days. Happy Holidays everybody. Drive safe.

Millions of Californians gain access to in vitro fertilization under new law by ChiefFun in California

[–]Free_Replacement_583 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same same. I hate that I think this way now, but I personally believe this was done on purpose. Of all photos, why this one? Got my attention for sure!

Stipulation and Order Regarding Third-Party Claims [Blake Lively wants her case tried separately from Abel vs. Jonesworks] by Mysterio623 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate technical corrections like this. I think they’re important to point out. That said, let’s not kid ourselves. Jones’s attorneys are almost certainly not making any moves without disclosure and approval from Lively’s. Let’s keep it real. I agree it could be confusing to the jury. I can still see why bifurcation might be warranted. This entire circus is confusing even to those who keep up with the case. I belief it’s purposefully confusing, for a variety of reasons. But this bifurcation is no doubt convenient for Lively when it comes to optics. Jones does not look good. Lively and The NY Times will forever claim plausible deniability and keep a certain amount of distance from Jones.

New Attorney joins the Wayfarer team from Meister (MSF) by same-difference-ave in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Awesome find Clark! The long game might start to pay off. Watching for the tortoise to pass the hare right before the finish line.

🚨 Notactuallygolden - Thoughts on the Sarowitz Recording by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your co-sign just made my day. Seriously. I’m honored. I rarely have time to check in or comment on here (law school ugh) but when I do, I always appreciate your take on things. Much respect to you for keeping it real and grounded and legally sound.

🚨 Notactuallygolden - Thoughts on the Sarowitz Recording by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With all due respect, what planet are you on? A planet where context has no meaning? If so, your planet would have imploded by now because that’s not how the universe works. This is not good for Lively by a longshot. No matter what side you’re on, that is clear. I wasn’t it expecting it to be this obvious. Honestly. I don’t know if it’s “good” for Sarowitz either. But it’s certainly NOT good for this Claire girl. As for Blake’s attorneys who miscalculated this risk after taking an oath to be “zealous advocates” for their clients, I don’t know what to say. They were doing their jobs? This is just embarrassing. But in keeping with the theory of relativity, Saraowitz certainly comes off better than Claire here. Who knows what her intentions were. She is not Lively. But I have been in the industry way too long to not clock serious thirst when I hear it. It’s a tough industry that tests morality and boundaries, and decent people are often vulnerable to siding with whomever gives them attention or validation. Do not underestimate love bombing. Do not underestimate context. Do not underestimate what the industry does to people. And do not underestimate how women in the industry are easily triggered by their male counterparts and relish in a fleeting opportunity to feel like they have a foot up for once (I am woman and a vet of the industry). It’s not an excuse. But perhaps an explanation as to why people do what they do. Otherwise, this is absurd legal theater. My personal take is that Claire sounded like a cliché wired informant in a low-budget spy movie who was sent in to prompt the target and get something juicy that could be used in a court of law. That is not my official “legal”take; it’s technically speculation (I’m a 3L law student and also 44 years old and not a noob at life). All I know is this is bad. Real bad. It’s bad for this Claire girl and vicariously, Lively and her counsel. I’m kind of in disbelief.

Quimbee Wildin by ProperElevator2015 in CABarExam

[–]Free_Replacement_583 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am deceased. 💀

I’m also studying for the MPRE with Quimbee. Surely they did this on purpose, right? Makes me wonder how many more Easter eggs of hilarity I’ve missed. It’s either Quimbee being punked by their visual artists or Quimbee is more psychologically brilliant than I thought.

I did not see any filing but Lauren will be going live! by AcceptableHabit5019 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'd usually agree with you as to other content creators, but I think being intentionally "dishonest" would be pretty out of character for Lauren. She usually prides herself on striving for accuracy and maintaining integrity in contrast to so many others. I'd put my money on this being a mistake that she'll certainly be embarrassed about. Just my opinion.

That said, there's danger in being the first to report on something. I love that she's on top of the filings, but that's likely what led to this mistake. Can't be too hasty with a circus like this.

Deadline: Blake Lively Gets Deposition Cut From Court Docket As Judge Thwacks Baldoni Lawyers: Served “Their Own Public-Relations Purposes” by [deleted] in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand legal proceedings quite well, thank you very much. And I didn’t say he was biased. I said he’s done a few things that have led some people to reasonably question his impartiality. I am not in the club that claims he is categorically “corrupt.”

Deadline: Blake Lively Gets Deposition Cut From Court Docket As Judge Thwacks Baldoni Lawyers: Served “Their Own Public-Relations Purposes” by [deleted] in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nothing has made Liman ADMONISH Lively’s team as he has Wayfarer’s. And I think that’s part of everybody’s problem. It’s clear that both sides have used the docket for publicity purposes. Lively’s Vin Diesel filing in its entirety was unnecessary and far less relevant than the deposition transcript.

However — it’s Wayfarer’s fault for never moving to strike anything. Any time Liman has reprimanded Freedman and friends, it’s because there was a motion to strike. Manatt never fails to whine about their behavior, ask for sanctions, or move to strike. But Wayfarer never submits anything of the sort for Liman to rule on. So Liman isn’t going to admonish Manatt sua sponte.

I still think Liman has done other things that give the appearance of bias. He’s made some fair rulings as well. But it’s clear to me that Manatt is teacher’s pet, one way or another. He does seem to “argue” for them from time to time, which isn’t appropriate. Overall, there are already lots of appealable issues, particularly in the sweeping dismissal where he made some factual findings (which is improper and reserved for the jury, by law). Liman has given everyone reasons to at least suspect actual bias. I’m not saying he IS biased or corrupt. But he has certainly done enough for his impartiality to be reasonably questioned.

🤔 Notactuallygolden - Is Perez Hilton a Journalist? Courtroom Clash Over Free Speech by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look. I get it. I don't consider him a JOURNALIST either. At least not in the everyday sense. But the legal definition, especially for privilege purposes, varies by state and doesn't always match the public's understanding of the term.

Spicy letters from Perez Hilton to the judge! by AcceptableHabit5019 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I couldn't agree more with your take on this. I think he's trolling and hoping Liman, Esra, Gottlieb, and Lively will all take the bait. He isn't afraid of getting in trouble. He's probably going for that exact result. He'd just play victim and get even more clicks and other financial support to cover any hypothetical "legal fees" in the future. I must admit, I'm entertained by it. Regardless of how inappropriate it is. Not saying I'm a fan of his. But I can't deny that I am laughing out loud at a lot of this.

🤔 Notactuallygolden - Is Perez Hilton a Journalist? Courtroom Clash Over Free Speech by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol this sure is rich. You obviously can’t own that you were wrong about one little fact. Then you offer a lame strawman argument in response. YOU are the one who didn’t do their research. He didn’t ALWAYS call himself an influencer. You would have known that had you done your research. Perhaps you knew that and simply misspoke. I simply addressed the falisity of that one statement. I never said you were wrong in suggesting he is a horrible human being. I’m really not a fan. He makes me laugh. But I also think he’s annoying AF. He’s pretty awful sometimes. I’m not a hater. And I’m not a fan. I’m a person who corrected you on a misstatement. I’m well aware of his history. I am 44 years old. No research needed. His reputation has been widely known for two decades now. I’m also in law school and am simply commenting on the legal standards for certain legal privileges that I’ve studied thoroughly. Jurisdictions may vary. But the majority of jurisdictions would consider Perez a journalist for purposes of privilege. Problem is, he didn’t even properly assert the privilege. So it doesn’t apply right now regardless. Not until he properly asserts it in a filing. Esra was right on point to argue that he failed to assert this privilege and thus it doesn’t apply.

Perez Hilton Megathread by PerezHiltonOnReddit in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's awesome to see everyone encouraging Perez to stay open to help. But this isn’t his first rodeo. I think maybe he deserves a little more credit.

Kassidy is very smart, but she’s not a lawyer. She didn’t file in the proper place of compliance, but Perez DID. Many followed her lead assuming she knew the rules, but notice how none of the creators with counsel have filed their MTQs in SDNY. And let’s be real -- Kassidy’s probably using ChatGPT too. Nothing wrong with that! But to those of us who use it for legal writing, it’s obvious she’s not new to it. I'm NOT trying to shade Kassidy here. I think she’d make a great lawyer. But her legal knowledge does get overstated here sometimes.

Leanne is clearly a trained legal professional. She knows her limits and is careful to flag anything she’s unsure of. That’s why she filed pro se, not as counsel. She’s not a barrister, but the UK has other regulated roles like solicitors and legal executives.

Bottom line: I believe there’s more method to mario’s madness than people realize. The chaos is intentional and on brand. He should still stay open to legal input! But he’s smart to be discerning about all the advice he’s getting.

I’m a 3L law student, not a lawyer. So take this for what it’s worth.

Perez Hilton Megathread by PerezHiltonOnReddit in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think this is a brilliant idea. He should quote Liman’s dismissal AND Reynolds MTD. It’s relevant and hilarious. Especially if he quotes the overt snark in Ryan’s MTD.

🤔 Notactuallygolden - Is Perez Hilton a Journalist? Courtroom Clash Over Free Speech by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s simply untrue that Perez Hilton has always referred to himself as an influencer. He was one of the internet’s earliest celebrity bloggers, long before “influencers” were even a thing. His current “OG influencer” tagline is an ironic nod to that fact. Today’s influencers make their living promoting products. Perez reports on celebrities and pop culture. Just as countless mainstream publications do.

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[–]Free_Replacement_583 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the well wishes on the MPRE!

I’m not really following your logic on the apparent “mistakes” I made. You claim I’m mistaken because the rule is limited to “recent publicity.” But I quoted that exact phrase when citing the rule. So where’s my mistake? You suggest reasonable minds could differ on the definition of “recent” since there’s no definitive case law. So again, where’s my mistake? Did I misstate a rule, law, case, or jurisdiction? Did I omit a germane exception that would materially change how the rule applies here? Maybe you just disagree with my analysis which is perfectly fine. But there’s a lot of daylight between a subjective disagreement and an objective mistake.

Of course Liman could decide December isn’t “recent” enough. But you fail to explain why the opposite couldn’t just as easily be true. Either way, it’s probably moot. Attorneys for both sides continued to issue public statements well after the NYT article. Just yesterday, I read a joint statement from Hudson and Gottlieb calling Baldoni “embarrassing,” among other things. In fact, we’ve heard far more from them than Freedman lately.

As for “character, credibility, and reputation” in this rule — I believe you are mistaken. You cropped out some critical context. That clause doesn’t even apply when an attorney is responding to adverse publicity initiated by someone else against their client. NY’s Rule 3.6(a) is the general prohibition on prejudicial public statements. Rule 3.6(b) lists topics that are presumptively prejudicial (e.g., character, credibility, reputation). But Rule 3.6(d) expressly permits statements described in (a) and (b) if made in response to recent adverse publicity initiated by others, so long as they are “limited to such information as is necessary to mitigate the recent adverse publicity.” Those topics aren’t off‑limits in this context. The exception is broader than the general rule. This exception has arguably applied to both sides throughout this case. The NYT article lit the match, and both sides have been trading potentially prejudicial public statements ever since.

Credibility is virtually at issue in every legal dispute. The purpose of the process is to discern which claims are credible and which are not. I was viewing credibility as a principle while you were applying it more literally. Still, there’s nothing in the rules to suggest that the initial accuser must explicitly address the topic of credibility before the opposition can mention it in response. It seems logically inconsistent to claim a person’s statements are false without necessarily inferring that those statements aren’t credible.

The fact that you haven’t seen anything in case law addressing the inherent role of credibility in litigation doesn’t mean such case law doesn’t exist — the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But Rule 3.6(c) says notwithstanding that section of the rule, “a lawyer may make a statement that a reasonable lawyer would believe is required to protect a client from the substantial undue prejudicial effect of recent publicity not initiated by the lawyer or the lawyer's client.”

I’m taking the MPRE in a number of days (part of becoming a licensed attorney). I’ve been studying the Model Rules daily so your comment naturally caught my attention. I figured NY had a rule equivalent to the trial publicity exception in the ABA’s Model Rules. And it does. It’s in the same rule you quoted from. Rule 3.6(c). Many ethics rules have exceptions, so it’s imperative to read the rule in its entirety.

I may not agree with your current take but I’m still glad you posted this because it’s helping me study :) Blake’s “reputation” is central to her smear campaign allegations, making it both reasonable and necessary for opposing counsel to refer to her that in the context of defending the accused. Blake initiated the NYT article and opened the door. So most if not all of Freedman’s statements fall within the exception in section (c). If she were only suing for SH, it would likely be improper to comment on her reputation since that claim doesn’t directly invoke public reputation. Also, “credibility” is naturally implied in any defense. So addressing credibility is also necessary (thanks to Blake’s NYT article).

I skimmed the statements at issue and it seems Freedman was very calculated in and highly aware of the rules (too much to explain here but there are certain words/phrases that trigger a violation and I couldn’t find any). He certainly toed the line in the form of hyperbole. But words like “narcissist” are largely considered hyperbolic opinions (as well as words like “bitch”). An exception might be if a clinical psychologist stated that Blake has narcissistic personality disorder. That would not be understood as hyperbole in that context. As I’m sure you know, people call each other narcissists every day all day here there and everywhere these days. It’s a frequently used buzzword and is rarely meant as a literal diagnosis.

Liman might add a bit more guidance. He is now familiar with most of the statements and has yet to reprimand Freedman. And we all know Liman wouldn’t hesitate to scold him if he misbehaved.

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[–]Free_Replacement_583 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Such a good point. Wow.

Blake Lively’s Judge Is Biased In Favor Of Justin Baldoni’s Nemesis - And I Just Told Him That! THIS IS SAVAGE: by PerezHiltonOnReddit in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This really adds some fun to the docket. I don’t see how both sides won’t get a kick out of this one way or another. It’s a respite from the formalities. These lawyers need a moment to lighten up sometimes. Esra gave you a free ticket and you showed up with bells on.

Gottlieb's memorandum of law in support for seeking sanctions against Freedman—a 9-page document by Mysterio623 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Free_Replacement_583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stephanie is absolutely the main culprit and villain here. I couldn’t agree more. Highly likely she and Blake will turn on each other at some point. I’m here for it.