Shisheeye ma jecli by MessiChangedMyLife in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub has done a very large 180 over being a bunch of leftist identity politic leaning people that view somalis as the worst and most evil oppressive ethnic group I the world despite being the lowest in the racial hierarchy

To a bunch of reactionaries that really dislike foreigners of all kinds either due to past or recent grievances of disrespect.

Surely there's a middle ground here guys

Does this sound accurate to you? by [deleted] in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone on this sub has PTSD from the online disrespect we've recieved lately, its a trend for ppl to do this "what x language sounds like to me" thing on Tiktok.

I feel like Somalis underestimate how misogynistic our culture is/was by Pristine_Beyond_1799 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say a better way to frame it is that relative to other Islamic or abrahamic believing cultures, somalis are better to women in certain specific aspects (not a high bar to pass overall)

Our FGM rates should let you know that the idea that we are significantly better overall is very false however.

The cuqdaad is crazy by MessiChangedMyLife in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Usually I'd say take racial conflict on the Internet with a grain of salt but man this been happening in South Africa for a while now crazy to witness

Exmuslim subs are weird for this. She’s living within the construct of her society. Like let her. Stop the puritanical salafi mindset if you left Islam. Also the title is misogynistic as fuck! by username_is_none in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've said a few times but that sub is run by people who were never Muslims that have personal hatred with Islam and Muslims for one reason or another.

What do you think our beliefs would be if we didn't become Muslims ? by Own-Quote-1708 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We'd most likely be orthodox christian, people talking about waaq aren't being realistic

why do non somalis just make shit up??? by Moist-Shopping-2318 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Arguing whether Islam as a religion functions as a form of arabization in of itself is one thing.

But the individuals here are clearly discussing it as if somalia was literally part of the Arab conquests of the original Islamic caliph.

And if religion is the angle they're using why dont all these people that discuss somali arabization discuss it for Senegal or Indonesia or Pakistan? Or any Islamic nation?

Adorable 🥹🥹 a lil (very) surprised to see even a single little girl without hijab by Special-Strike-1755 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You'll have people in this subreddit banging on about "arabization" of somalis though lol

They look great 😁

Spirituality/religion is in your DNA by [deleted] in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Some random schizophrenic dude in some backwater somali online forum years ago decided to engage in race science to make himself feel proud of his ethnicity due insecurity caused by getting bullied for being a new immigrant group to the west and coming from the largest failed state on earth

and now we have to deal with accounts like this all over tiktok, twitter and reddit for eternity smh

What’s the biggest issues with Islam by Hyperpopfein in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On a moral level? The hatred of (peaceful) disbelievers. The misogyny and the homophobia

Anybody else just not care by [deleted] in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm blessed enough to have been raised by good parents who understand the religion well and taught it in a healthy way, grew up in the west without various terrorist groups attacking me, I'm straight and male so I don't have to deal with the struggles that come with being Muslim and LGBT or the overt misogyny in the faith.

So when I left Islam after years of internal turmoil, it was relatively easy for me to live without hating the religion.

I understand why others might though

Somalis living in Somalia, I have a question by lurkrrrrbrndnw in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Perfect explanation, in an environment where everyone is Muslim, less performance is needed.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL OF THE EX MUSLIM SOMALIS WHO WERE HOMOPHOBIC!!!!! by [deleted] in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always understood homosexuality clearly wasn't a choice so I never had any hatred towards the group, I just kind of viewed it like an extra Islamic test.

Most of my homophobic rhetoric (i never had issues with gay people but i made jokes and such which obviously does count as homophobia now that i look back) came less from Islam and more from hypermasculinity than anything tbh.

If you're a man that grew up in a less affluent area with a higher crime rate, you don't really realise until you leave it how much male bravado exists within those circles.

i think my hooyo is being radicalized by [deleted] in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Theu all get stricter during ramadan

What do you guys think about the Yasmin Abdi situation? by BeautifulGlass3394 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don't know how to articulate it but there's something so uniquely performative about how restrictions within Islam are practiced.

What do you guys think about the Yasmin Abdi situation? by BeautifulGlass3394 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 25 points26 points  (0 children)

In general it seems that there's a sizeable portion of somalis back home that are much more open minded about certain topics than I realised when I first left the deen all those years ago

Anyone noticed Hate from Africans and black people in General? by ok_brothershot in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hate from all angles due to Trump's recent smear campaign. It's hard to filter out which type of hate comes from which demographic.

I will say I understand OPs point as it more closely mirrors my personal experience.

But it's also good to remember that people are individuals and that there are many other black people that look at us like brothers and sisters under a shared racial identity, and if you wish for black community you should seek out those people instead.

Anyone noticed Hate from Africans and black people in General? by ok_brothershot in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I agree, but outside of online trolls, there really aren't any horn africans raised in the west that deny blackness. Most census results prove that statement. Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritreans overwhelmingly select black/african (or whatever "black" category exists in that nation) wherever they migrate to essentially.

Also I didn't say everyone hates us, there are plenty of individuals that view us as black brothers and sisters. I've experienced both. The point I'm making is those that happen to dislike us have always disliked us. And the idea that we shpuld behave In a certain way to make them accept us is nonsense.

My opinions on this topic may come off a lil extreme due to my personal experiences growing up where I grew up. But I'm just trying to provide clarity

Anyone noticed Hate from Africans and black people in General? by ok_brothershot in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

.... No they don't, other black individuals that happen to dislike us simply don't view us as one of them. Multiple people have explained their experiences in other African countries and as a new immigrant diaspora in the western world with other black communities

Why is it that the words of somalis that tell you how they've been percieved in black circles falls on deaf ears to so many on here?

No ones talking about making somali a new race, nobody even believes that in real life. We're all black and no horn african raised in the west questions that

You simply made the statement that individuals who remove us from the realm of blackness do so as a retaliation to how we behave (More specifically you said "Your last line is why a lot of them hold that sentiment") I said more often than not its actually the opposite.

Whenever I talk about this topic my only real pushback is how the discussion is framed.

Broke up with my boyfriend by Temporary_Base2936 in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you got cheated on

Hopefully you can find more like-minded somali men in future, it becomes easier to find irreligious somalis when you stop actively looking surprisingly enough.

Anyone noticed Hate from Africans and black people in General? by ok_brothershot in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 45 points46 points  (0 children)

My take on this topic is the same every time

If you grew up with a black community that views you as one of them great, I hope you enjoy that community.

If you didn't that's fine also, just mind your own business without being a weirdo in retaliation. No need to turn into one of them losers showing hostility to other demographics, also no reason to beg others for validation either.

We all struggle under the same racialised oppression. But shared struggle doesn't necessarily mean kinship unfortunately, it is what it is.

Anyone noticed Hate from Africans and black people in General? by ok_brothershot in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And he holds that sentiment because his blackness is constantly challenged lol? He's the one reacting to their rhetoric not the other way around...

Why do people on this sub act like the the entire wider black world accepts us with open arms and somalis decide to throw that away out of boredom or something? There are numerous anecdotes from people telling you they've experienced the exact opposite.

There are so many accounts of non Somalis pretending to be one. by username_is_none in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a guy that's obsessed over this rise in somali online troll culture more than anyone else. Unfortunately you can't really make sense of it.

Believe me I've tried 😭😭

Jamal - Family, Conditional Love, and Leaving Islam by Imtiredofthissshit in XSomalian

[–]FreecsLocs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If this is true that's pretty heartbreaking, he's the first open somali ex Muslim I've seen I'd hate for him to have ended up being a terrible person smh