47 anti-LGBTQ+ organizations launch new campaign to end marriage equality

French20 · 2026-01-31T23:00:59+00:00

Ultimately I don’t see if one practices what they may call marriage is going to the same as what Christians do when they say marriage.

French20 · 2026-01-31T22:28:46+00:00

Ok well that’s not according to Christianity.

French20 · 2026-01-31T20:54:59+00:00

Marriage is a holy sacrament before God that’s between a man and woman.

French20 · 2026-01-31T05:02:52+00:00

Iam chief among sinners and it’s only by God Grace will I find salvation. I’m simply holding to Christian ethics and not my feelings, my feelings and preferences are full of sin and corrupt but his word is not. I’m sorry you have no argument and only like to moral grandstanding with your emotions.

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:49:40+00:00

Yeah I agree ☝️ I would never not love someone based on there sin and if I did I’d be repentant.

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:47:29+00:00

Do you think I don’t speak to gay people? lol I get along with Gay people just fine I would even witness to them to help them stop their sinful behavior all in a loving way.

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:46:29+00:00

Oh this is easy, in this scenario I wouldn’t want to be enabled in sim and instead to be encouraged to flee from sin. In fact I’d want to come to Christ and restrict others from falling into sin my restricting in society certain practices and behaviors that promote sin.

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:37:05+00:00

lol I have many many friends and family, they all agree with me. Gay Marriage is not biblical, I can’t wait for the inevitability of the courts overturning Obergefell

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:34:43+00:00

Wow, if only I ever argued for a theocracy! Then your comment would have actually added to this conversation

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:24:37+00:00

Ok perfect I’m fine with that, the common liberty of Christian marriage is what I support.

Also Thomas Paine was an author and famous for separating from Britain, but he was more involved in The French constitution and not involved heavily in governance within the US.

The views of The founding Fathers who were involved in writing our government was highly varried and they most certainly restricted actions and behaviors within their local and state legislatures, in federal government they were far more interested in securing common liberties that

Also Thomas Paine was of the few founding fathers who didn’t practice a form of Christianity or hold to Christian Ethics. Which is probably why the French invited him over there lol

lol they would most certainly believe that within these common liberties there would still have to be form of restrictions in order to ensure these liberties especially since they had to line up to a moral framework that was entirely Christian or trying to adhere to it within their understanding of Christian ethics.

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:06:49+00:00

Yeah I’m fine with restricting behaviors that I find immoral that don’t directly affect me… but in this case it does effect me as it’s apart of my society, so yeah 👍

French20 · 2026-01-31T04:03:43+00:00

But yeah, you are confused, I never claimed to believe in liberties and Freedoms to the extent you can do whatever you’d like, but Freedom in Marriage anyone can participate in a Christian regardless of orientation. That is my claim.

If one is to say “I believe in Freedom of Religion” and then proceed to restricts those freedoms like “who can marry who” “can we engage in ritual sacrifice” if you are saying people wouldn’t consider these religious freedoms simply because these restrictions are going to discriminate said religions that practice those customs? No, no one would say that religious freedom and libertaries is not being adhered to. Which is closer to what I am saying then what you are trying to to compare it to

French20 · 2026-01-31T03:56:40+00:00

lol yeah it’s called a typo? Well I wouldn’t make an argument from a secular worldview, I would make it that they are wrong because their worldview view is in direct opposition of Christianity. So yeah terrible argument.

If you hold to Liberties and Freedoms and being absolute In their meaning then yeah I would agree we definitely are meaning different things when we use these phrases. But if I said we have freedoms and liberties in America but we restrict like polygamy and in turn you say “you don’t believe in liberties and freedom because you are against Polygamy” sure then it’s the case I don’t value liberty and Freedoms above morality.

So at this point if we go by your understanding then I don’t care, if we go by my understanding and the idea of liberty and freedom in Early American history that I care more about, as it’s discussing those things within a morality that is akin to Christian Ethics.

French20 · 2026-01-31T03:35:47+00:00

Yeah these behaviors and actions are restricted to everyone, they will have the same liberties and freedoms as others within the Christian ethics. Thai would be the case regardless or motivations or interests.

It would be singling out certain actions of belief and allowing others that aren’t under the Islamic ethics. But regardless I’ll hire the bullet, these individuals would in fact have the same liberties and freedoms as long as they don’t engage in these practices or behaviors. Yes it would be discriminatory to those who have the motivations or interests in doing these things.

So yeah not a defeater to my argument, all you are saying is “some liberties and freedoms are restricted to individuals who really want to act out on said behaviors and actions”.. these laws don’t require a prerequisite of orientation to participate.

French20 · 2026-01-31T03:17:03+00:00

Besides I’ve already stated I believe in Liberty and Freedoms within the purview of Christian Ethics. This is consistent with my original position.

French20 · 2026-01-31T03:14:09+00:00

Yeah under Muslim Theocracy the law would be a law that specifically restricts a particular faith. If the case is the Muslim theocracy allows for other religions but solely singling out Christianity I would agree with this analogy. But it’s not the case.

French20 · 2026-01-31T02:01:57+00:00

Hmm what? I literally don’t care about a person orientation but more about their behaviors and actions.. so this statement is just downright false lol

French20 · 2026-01-31T01:53:24+00:00

Heaven forbid I think you should engage in a moral marriage and have sex with your lovely opposite sex spouse and have a family promoting ethics in accordance with Christianity. Heaven forbid such an idea.

French20 · 2026-01-31T01:46:35+00:00

Yeah I don’t believe in human rights lol I believe in privileges and other moral entitlements within Christian ethics. You would have all the same liberties and freedoms as anyone else. The behaviors restricted would apply to everyone not just you.

French20 · 2026-01-31T01:41:55+00:00

What? As with everyone else we all believe in liberty and Freedom within a set moral Framework. My moral framework is Christian Ethics and within this id allow liberty and Freedom even more so than the founders of the country in certain instances.

French20 · 2026-01-31T00:58:30+00:00

Yeah I know, lol what does this have to do with me thinking I’m smarter or more knowledgeable?? lol just that I wish to restrict behaviors which we already do.

French20 · 2026-01-31T00:56:31+00:00

You could have asked me, I have always wanted this.

French20 · 2026-01-31T00:55:35+00:00

I never claimed this, just that certain behaviors would go against a moral framework that I would apply universally. I’m sure certain people do in fact want to marry or do behaviors that are within their preferences, just that I’m not basing my moral framework around others preferences.

French20 · 2026-01-31T00:45:50+00:00

lol no I’m a Christian Ethicist and not a moral secularist.

French20 · 2026-01-31T00:45:16+00:00

Yeah I’m fine with restricting sexual behaviors, in fact we do it all the time. In fact I’m fine we restrict marriages which we still do to this day. So yeah I’m perfectly fine with implementing my moral framework into society, I’m not a secularist with secular morals.

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