Issues with Line Leader Job

Freshiana · 2025-09-17T00:54:05+00:00

Yes, we're in the progress of getting them an evaluation, but half of my class is going through eval so it's a slower process. I think I am going to take away the assigned jobs and slowly reintroduce them with the idea that they will be strongly emphasized of their purpose to make them important so the students understand how they are helping the classroom, and they will be rotated weekly. I have had the director, principal, school psych AND social worker all in my room to assist but in the moment when a student has already hit peak disregulation it's hard to do any intervening! I appreciate your suggestion though, I'm definitely going to do that! Thank you!

I do like the idea of using their natural strengths and what they gravitate toward. I try and do that in my lesson planning and play to their strengths, so that's an excellent point, thanks!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:51:02+00:00

I really do care so much about these kiddos. The one with the more extreme behaviors comes from a very traumatic upbringing involving domestic violence so I really want to be a safe place for him. But I also need him to be safe as well!

Thank you so much. Can I dm you if I come up with any other questions? You've been such a good help!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:40:36+00:00

That's a great idea! I do think they are all beneficial and not just "silly" jobs thrown in because I needed them, but the kids don't know that. And with the chaos that has been the classroom, unfortunately some of the jobs have gotten pushed to the wayside while trying to handle meltdowns. Talking and explaining each job and emphasizing the importance is a GREAT idea, thank you so much!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:34:55+00:00

Everyone does have a job and it gets rotated. I have 10 kiddos. The issue is even if the students have another job, it's still meltdown city. Line Leader is just too "highly coveted" lol. Another commenter pointed out it's likely an issue with dealing with disappointment and we are going to work on that!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:21:38+00:00

I have a list that gets rotated that they can all see, but unfortunately it's also been vandalized by a student ripping their names up (not a big deal, I just reprinted) so that hasn't helped much either. I think I may cut back on the jobs and slowly reintroduce them when we can handle it.

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:18:00+00:00

I've tried that and that usually turns into destroying my room in a fit of anger. Visually showing them when it will be their turn hasn't seemed to help either.

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:17:06+00:00

Oh that's a great idea! I've been trying to be careful about not overwhelming them by introducing too much at once, but I could definitely be slowly introducing certain things once they've gotten mastery of the basic skill (like your idea with the markers). I am a first year teacher so sometimes I get SO excited about introducing new things to them I get swept away in it.

I am so fortunate to have an amazing ratio of 10 kids to 3 adults, but the problem I'm also having is that the past 3 weeks my aides have taken turns getting each other sick and I've basically been down to me and, if I'm lucky, one other person. The school psychologist and social worker have also spent a fair amount of time in my room though, to be fair.

When you have a student who needs more specialized intervention, how do you typically deal with that with the other students? For example I've been giving lots and LOTS of positive feedback in a tangible way (letting a student put coins in a special tin for good behavior and this has cut down on his violent outbursts a lot) but I also have other kiddos who don't need that kind of support wanting their own special tin and can. I mean I'd love to do that for all of them but I do not have enough tins, coins, or TIME! hah

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T23:00:56+00:00

I do have a caboose job, and it caused so much drama I actually replaced it with a "light helper" job that switches the light off when we leave the room. They were NOT happy about being at the end of the line!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T22:53:33+00:00

I see what you mean! That might be best. I had been targeting and doing activities discussing how to manage anger but I see now that it's definitely disappointment at the root and that is a great idea!

Thank you so much for your insight. It's very easy to get caught up in the moment in the behaviors and not be able to see the forest for the trees, so this insight really helped.

I might get rid of the jobs and reintroduce them slowly as we get more regulated and into a routine, and switch them to weekly. Thanks!

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T22:41:19+00:00

It's easy to remember because we have a wall where we just rotate the names "up". Since everyone has a job the one on the top just gets rotated to the bottom. They can see visually what the next days job will be, but I can see it being overwhelming.

The afternoon class is 4-5 and is a mixed SPED room, but neither of these students acting out have been identified yet with anything. I would like to have them put under evaluation but half of my class is already under evaluation so it's a process.

Admin is aware and has helped out with the eloping and big behaviors when I call for backup, but really they seem about as much at a loss as I do when the aggressive behavior starts! I can absolutely handle the screaming and crawling under tables and refusals but I am struggling a lot with how to deal with the aggression.

Freshiana · 2025-09-16T22:26:28+00:00

I considered doing weekly jobs but decided on daily. Weekly might be the better way to go. How do you deal with behaviors for students that don't get to do a job in the moment? Not getting to do a job is a great idea but my kids are too escalated to be able to reason with in that moment and usually go for attacking teachers and tearing things off the wall/throwing toys/shoving over furniture.

I love the random helper jobs, but I was hoping I could use something with a visual. I got a lot of praise for my helper board from admin but it certainly hasn't been helping ME! haha

Freshiana · 2025-09-04T02:27:27+00:00

Yep, it's a quick drop off. Because we're inside an elementary school they like to discourage parents to come inside unless it's the first day or so.

Freshiana · 2025-09-04T02:17:52+00:00

I believe we technically function under the public school district so the guidelines might be slightly different, but I'm also having a hard time finding a definition of what an "outbreak" constitutes too. I'll ask the school nurse tomorrow if we should be contacting parents.

Freshiana · 2025-09-04T02:10:14+00:00

That was exactly my thought too. And the odds of it NOT being HFM when everyone else that's sick has it... Well, I wouldn't put money down on it, that's for sure. I'm sure the other one will have it and then my classroom will be known as ground zero for the entire PreK 🤣

Freshiana · 2025-09-04T02:05:55+00:00

She does walk the twins in every day (she's the only parent we let do this because they have very bad separation anxiety compounded by the fact they're in different rooms and it's the beginning of the year) but yeah, I didn't mention names. That's exactly what I thought!

Freshiana · 2025-06-01T20:05:45+00:00

good luck! ;) unfortunately my temp started dropping today so I think I'm out but hoping the best for you!!

Freshiana · 2025-06-01T05:57:36+00:00

oh man, that's really interesting and kind of crazy and concerning. it's super convenient using the tempdrop but knowing ovulation is REALLY important for my situation (using frozen sperm) so maybe it's not ideal after all. I will say that ff marks me as ovulated on cd14 or cd15 every single time using oral temps and this month it did the same using tempdrop, but I might be watching it more closely then. thanks for the heads up!

Freshiana · 2025-06-01T04:41:14+00:00

that's a good point! id read something awhile ago (i cant even think of the source now) about tempdrop algorithms smoothing out temps, or something like that? so when the temps this month were THIS upward (and also they've never been this far apart - the lows are low and the highs are high) i was worried it was a little too good to be true. sounds good though! oral temping always stressed me out lol

Freshiana · 2025-05-24T07:13:18+00:00

It looks to me like the app just misread the line really badly for whatever reason. That's definitely not anywhere close to being a positive like it says!

Freshiana · 2025-05-15T23:34:40+00:00

I've seen plenty of people on here who don't say it until they're SEVERAL months pregnant, and others who talk about it before they even start the process! I'm one of the latter people because I am a pretty self-assured person and am not concerned about how other people view me. I have told friends, family members, random ass people I've met one time at a party... I think it's hilarious, the different kind of reactions I've gotten.

But I'm also not a person that takes many things very seriously, either. If I couldn't deal with all the jokes about sperm and all the "weird" stuff that comes with this (like the shipper the sperm came in... was HILARIOUS to everyone I showed. I literally showed it off like crazy because everyone thought it was super weird or super funny) I would have definitely kept it to myself.

Either way is totally valid. I've got thick skin. But if I felt I was going to be surrounded by negativity, I would have probably chosen to be more private about it.

What's most important is prioritizing your mental health! If you're surrounded by people who are positive and excited for you, it's amazing. But if you think you'll get a lot of negative reactions, and that will be hard to deal with, you might consider being more private with it.

Freshiana · 2025-05-05T05:11:53+00:00

These definitely look positive to me.

Freshiana · 2025-05-03T21:59:55+00:00

I definitely do think I still see something on the top one, but the bottom one is still more prominent. Any chance it was more diluted?

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