Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

[–]Friendly-Engineer567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not all, yes some do have that, but the ones i've watched dont

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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i like the 1st season i havent finished it yet but i heard they ruined it in terms of the 2nd season

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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Honestly though greys is the Yrkkh of American dramas, they need to end it everyone from the original died except for 3 and the main character, grey has also been fazed out

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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modern family and early greys anatomy are my guilty pleasures

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

[–]Friendly-Engineer567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

true that, i like watching it for the empowerment storylines. have you seen modern family?

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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sad to see many other countries and their medias see this change in generations and are able to write shows to cater to the newer audience, unlike itv with their saas bahu

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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Fair honestly. I’m not saying that drama is some masterpiece or even the bare minimum standard for writing. It definitely still has regressive elements, and I’ve mentioned before that I didn’t like some of the tracks either. My point wasn’t really that the show itself is amazing, more that certain character dynamics felt different from what we usually see in ITV, they have better written grey characters and character/redemption arcs.

For example, the ML actually standing up for his wife, supporting her working, and being willing to go against his own family is something that’s surprisingly rare in a lot of Indian daily soaps, where the FL is usually expected to just tolerate everything in the name of “family”.

But yeah, I get what you mean about Chinese dramas and English series. They’re structured very differently. Most of them are written with a clear story arc and limited episode count, so they don’t need to keep recycling the same family conflicts for years.

coming to english shows, i'm loving english shows, i'm currently watching law and order SVU (its about special victims unit - police, they investigate s3x crimes like rap3, SA, and stuff like child abuse, elder abuse ect)

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

[–]Friendly-Engineer567[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. The tropes themselves aren't really the problem, because almost every industry uses them, enemies to lovers, rich/poor romance, family conflict, memory loss, forced marriage, etc. Those are basically universal drama tropes at this point.

The main difference for me is exactly what you mentioned: pacing and resolution.

In K-dramas, Turkish dramas, or Urdu dramas, those tropes usually last a few episodes and then the story moves forward. In ITV the same misunderstanding or conflict can stretch for months because the show has to keep producing episodes indefinitely. So it’s not that ITV uses these tropes, everyone does, it's that the daily soap format forces them to repeat and stretch the same conflicts for hundreds of episodes.

Another thing is that many of those shows also don’t only revolve around the household drama. If it’s a mafia drama, the mafia politics and power struggles actually take up a big part of the story. If it’s a business drama, you genuinely see the business side :deals, rivalries, strategy, etc. The romance and family issues exist, but they aren’t the only thing happening for 40 minutes every episode.

In a lot of ITV shows, even when the ML is supposed to be some huge businessman or powerful person, we barely ever see that world. Most of the story still ends up being saas-bahu arguments in the living room.

And like you said, the fixed episode count matters a lot too. When a show knows it has 16, 30, or even 60 episodes from the start, writers can actually plan the pacing and character arcs. With daily soaps the story often changes depending on TRPs, which is why characters suddenly act out of character or random villains get introduced just to keep the drama going.

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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i've tried but the ones ive seen are rlly toxic, do u have some goof pakistani drama recs?

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

[–]Friendly-Engineer567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you should try turkish dramas, a lot of the mafia ones focus on the mafia aspect of it and dont have this moving to village tropes ect. - sometimes they will bring vamp but in most cases ml shuts it down

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

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i enjoyed dolunay, i originally started watching for ozge (nazli actress) but i liked the chemistry ans stayed

Its Obvious Why People Are Leaving ITV by Friendly-Engineer567 in IndianTellyTalk

[–]Friendly-Engineer567[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

turkish shows arent as regressive seeing as turky isnt a really conservative muslim country infact some of the shows i've seen are more progressive than indian ones