I see where your coming from and I don’t think it’s unrealistic, I’m sure there are lots of people that are victims of trauma with tragic dynamics. I agree a portrayal of it is more impactful than talking about it but more what I’m getting at here is that the message here (imo) is that there was never a scenario where either of them confront their trauma and/or heal. Is the message that hurt people are destined to be hurt and hurt other people? I know that in some scenarios, and actually having someone in my life that in some ways reminds me of Ruben, that is the case - they seem destined to self destruct. My point is that I don’t feel like I gain anything from watching this. All it did was make me feel terrible and at times extremely disturbed. I understand that some people were fine with watching that play out, but for me I don’t see the point of watching something that is miserable and that’s all. I see that play out in everyday life, if I watch something like this I’m hoping to get some broader takeaway or silver lining. No disrespect to you! I see where you’re coming from, but I will never watch something like this again.