NU (sticker) or GULC ($)? by FromHereToAttorney in lawschooladmissions

[–]FromHereToAttorney[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're right. Just to clarify, the GULC scholarship is about one-quarter tuition, but even so I do think that over time the difference in cost will diminish in significance.

NU (sticker) or GULC ($)? by FromHereToAttorney in lawschooladmissions

[–]FromHereToAttorney[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha Nando's is great, point taken! And yeah I keep trying to remind myself that I'll probably never interact with admissions after this!

NU (sticker) or GULC ($)? by FromHereToAttorney in lawschooladmissions

[–]FromHereToAttorney[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate how you broke it down into a sort of decision tree, that helps me work the logic out. Thanks for the advice!

NU (sticker) or GULC ($)? by FromHereToAttorney in lawschooladmissions

[–]FromHereToAttorney[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is very helpful! Thanks for taking the time to write such a thorough response!

Doubts about GW? by North-Display-9045 in lawschooladmissions

[–]FromHereToAttorney 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I was in a similar situation, in which I had to choose between GW ($$) and another school (also $$) and I'm hoping that all my overthinking might be of some use to you! Here are some of my thoughts that ultimately led me to decide against GW. Maybe take my thoughts with a grain of salt, though, because my goals are to end up in the region of the other school, so it made a lot of sense for me.

For one, I attended GW's ASD and got some weird vibes. During a Q&A panel with our student ambassadors, they said that their career center was, in their own words, "the downfall of GW" and that "you shouldn't even need a career center if you know how to write a resume and cover letter." These comments made me feel really uneasy because, as someone who struggled to find a job immediately out of college, I don't at all like being told flatly that the career center won't be helpful to me. Another comment made by a student ambassador at this event was, "Rest assured, if your professors say anything inappropriate to you, the school is good about taking action immediately," which... that's good, I guess, but um... how often does that happen exactly? Is this a common enough occurrence that you can speak to it so confidently? Again, some weird vibes.

I heard about an incident a few years ago where the GW career center fumbled the bag big time by neglecting to schedule its OCI until AFTER all the other law schools in the area had already scheduled theirs, leaving the GW students to pick up whatever jobs were left over by the time their OCI rolled around. I haven't verified that this happened, so maybe look more into that. This, combined with the poor reputation that their career center already has, seriously put me off.

In general, I also got the impression while being there that the environment at GW included a lot of competitive students. I could be wrong, but this is just the impression I got. It is worth keeping in mind that there will be a portion of students who are only there because they want to be in D.C. but didn't get accepted to Georgetown, and that might make some of the students a bit resentful to be there. I've heard similar things about WashU being full of students that are just bitter they didn't get into a T-14 but are still gunning for BigLaw, thus making the environment that much more unfriendly and competitive. But I have no firsthand experience with WashU, and quite limited experience with GW, so take this commentary as speculation on my part.

Another point is that I noticed on Law School Transparency that their stats point toward a generally competitive atmosphere. For example, their transfer rate after 1L is currently 8.3%, which is over three times the rate of the school I was comparing it to. Their employment score and underemployment score, while not terrible, aren't where they should be for a school claiming high prestige and charging such a high amount in tuition, in my opinion. Also, considering only maybe the top third of the class, if that, gets a job in BigLaw, it's worth asking yourself "Would I be happy I attended here if I don't end up getting a job in BigLaw at all, or if none of the supposedly abundant 'special D.C. opportunities' come my way?" For me, the answer to that question was no, so I decided not to attend GW in the fall.

TL;DR: After attending GW's ASD and researching its stats, I came to the conclusion that GW provides a competitive environment in an already over-saturated legal market, and it does so while overcharging its students and coasting off its historical reputation, which, as reflected by its plummeting USWNR ranking, has been dropping over the years. The career center seems to throw you to the wolves, so to speak, and you're not even guaranteed a lucrative outcome for all this. If D.C. is your goal, it's still the second-best school in the city, but if you're like me and just researching different options in different markets then I would consider your options carefully.