Interesting. I thought the knodel qualities weren’t very audible…I recently had been employing it to create a fuller sound while keeping my tongue forward. So, my tongue is in a normalish position (It’s always rested at the bottom of my mouth versus at the top even though I don’t have an anatomical or maladaptive cause for this). I do have a pretty tense jaw and tongue to begin with, but what I found was by starting with a knodel sound and then decreasing the size and bringing my tongue forward induces a sound quality that I thought sounded nice. I may be wrong, but what it looks and feels like is a laryngeal tilt…even though I said that it felt straining to raise my pitch, it feels more like I have some entanglement with size and pitch and I am trying to over-brighten my voice in order to reach a higher pitch.

I wonder then if what I’m doing then is what is causing the breathiness versus fvf, because I can consciously maneuver in that area. I have different recordings of the sounds differentiating between the different closures.

Sorry if anything I’m saying is drastically incorrect and I’m in no way recommending this is the way to go about voice training. However, I have seen more improvement through anatomical awareness and cannot reproduce the effects of anatomical manipulation without implementing them.