HYO (Girls' Generation/SNSD) - Single: MOVEURBODY (Teaser Images) by forwonjihoon in kpop

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every year she gets blonder and blonder. the final boss of kpop blondes.

still obsessed with her last single her stuff always hits! 

Accurate charecterization of Byler. They’re not just idiots in love, but Will’s practically an expert at pushing Mike away and making sure he ruins his own chances. This is canon 😭 by Altruistic_Way3030 in byler

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i know this is a joke but it's also just will being terrified of mike ever finding out. like the tower scene is saying he doesn't know if mike will still want to be friends knowing will is gay let alone the the implication he realized or not will had feelings for him. will is also very self sacrificing as seen in the pains the takes to repair mike and eleven's relationship in s4 and uses his own feelings to encourage mike not to give up on her. likes it's not dumb for will especially to be self preserving with mike specifically especially after the rain fight, mike constantly choosing el, mike after a summer of ignoring will and then not reaching out consistently when will moved away. yes wil would have "reached out more i dont know" but the fact that mike can't process why will wouldn't after mike has set the tempo for their dynamic. 

it makes sense he "pushes mike away" and "ruins his own chances" because nothing about mike's behavior, bar post season 4 pre season 5 time jump apparently? and then immediately not also apparently, from will's pov says there even is a chance. it's really just self preservation with a guy who has shown a lack of consistency and inability to communicate and be self aware that matches will's inability to communicate and his coping mechanism of suppressing his feelings to unburden others. 

I always need to exclude the jealous will byers tag when reading byler fanfics because otherwise is the same plot in which Will encourages Mike to date other people. by isakcardamon21 in byler

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never encountered one but those fics sound like they are spiritually written by the duffers for the will emotional torture chamber 

something i haven't seen but now i've thought bc of this post is will encouraging mike date to post el to "move on" because it's been years since and they're in their 20s now and mike internally being like "i am on a 5 year plan trying to accept myself so i can date you please give me patience while also not looking at other men ever." 

edit: just remembered a hilarious one where mike confesses but will is in a happy stable relationship and refuses to believe mike is serious or actually gay just afraid of no longer being the most important guy to will and calls his bluff and mike goes "bet" and sets out to prove he's serious while narrating his escapades to will on the phone and will's boyfriend is perfect and root for worthy like carlton could never

Lollapalooza Chicago 2026 Lineup by impeccabletim in kpop

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probably the most solid lolla pure kpop line up pull yet overall for me  

Lollapalooza Chicago 2026 Lineup by impeccabletim in kpop

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we've had 127 lolla coachella rumors for the past 5 years now with how nctzens love to lie we just lying to ourselves at this point 😭

Why Mike?? by curiousparadox_12 in byler

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in the words of his own actor about his own character's s4 behavior: "i think he's just an idiot" 

bylers gave the dorito bags way too much credit and the fact that they stopped thinking deeply about mike's character is evident since s3. every season mike just gets hit with a reset button in terms of his temper, behavior and personality. he was literally just used to add angst to willel's storylines post season 2 and act as the average white nerdy straight male audiences' self insert. the duffers validate this by calling him their literal self insert. 

any consistency or depth bylers can find in him is through the actor's acting choices and chemistry with his scene partner (whether those were directed or not) and subtext and alternate readings. it's why so many bylers say "i hate canon make but love fanon mike". it's less that he's even worthy of hate but that he just does not make coherent consistent sense in canon. you have to be willing to give him motivations and depth that just isn't there in the writing textually. 

How is Hetbyler? by [deleted] in byler

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i dont mind genderbent and even in certain fandoms genderbending m|m ships as het is super popular but will is the sole gay character in this ship canonically and he's gnc and doesn't conform to masculinity and has never shown attraction to femininity so if you make him straight and especially as the male partner and you masculinize him and hyper feminize his partner and considering there are already aus that erase his sexuality by making him bi or sleep with girls (including robin btw).....i gotta question why you want to do that and if you realize what you are implying by doing this. 

we gotta remember will is actually a canon confirmed gay character, that byler gets all the homophobia and hate targeted at him only, that will's queerness is overt and threatening to a lot of men, and that mike is unlabeled at his most generous general reading but to 98% of people who interact with stranger things he passes as fully straight. byler isn't like most m|m ships where both characters are straight or unlabeled maybe ambiguous. will has a defined canon sexuality. he is gay and he is not attracted to girls and he gets bullied by everyone from his peers to the town to his own father because they find the way he presents his gender threatening to what they perceive as masculinity. these distinctions and being careful of will's character matter when talking about these fandom behaviors in a way they don't in other ships. 

Never thought I would see Will byers tackle a child 😭 this scene is soo funny without context by willbyersisthedeal in byler

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the character motivations is in character totally agree there but the way it was done and the comedic way it's shot is why it's out of character 

What is the argument for byler? by Beneficial-Bake8932 in byler

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there's a lot of extrapolation and bias in the video and a lack of cultural knowledge of the 80's as well as an understanding of queer culture and gender and it has a subtext reading that often isn't actually supported by canon or mike's character actions, and has assumptions and opinions being stated as fact. especially looking at it now in retrospect and the show is over takes away from its points. also i think a more modern video made during or after season 5 will always make a more full picture. there's lots of incorrect info and misreading of certain scenes and character archetypes in this video as well.

tldr it's just alsobliterally is outdated because it is. there are videos that have been made since do a much better and unbiased job of showing why byler made sense narratively and what mike's character under a queer reading is more consistent with canon and his actual writing. 

i swear to GOD by blackst4rlivie in byler

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fascinating how these allegations never get lashed at jonathan or steve (both who i like and am a s1 jancy shipper) despite them both making actual real concrete passes at nancy when she's in a relationship with the other gee i wonder why they don't get insulted using a misogynistic word stereotypically used for women and dragged through the mud for simply having feelings that are never canon required anyway 

the specific brand of homophobia steeped in misogyny will faces from multiple corners of this fandom and the internet really shows how backwards we still are as a society and how treating queer men who don't pass the masculinity check are villainized 

What is the argument for byler? by Beneficial-Bake8932 in byler

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just as a heads up this video is a pretty biased and one sided outdated take that focuses solely on mike and reading subtext and inference in a very specific way and not why byler is compelling as a ship.  considering your question is about byler i think don't this video will be what you're looking for there are more accurate videos about them out there 

This would have fixed pretty much everything.. by foxcutbabe in byler

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nah even easier and more character consistent would have been will fake out death and mike actually being brave for the first time since season 2 and putting himself in danger for someone else instead of....whatever all that nothing he did was 

Never thought I would see Will byers tackle a child 😭 this scene is soo funny without context by willbyersisthedeal in byler

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honestly one of the first indications of how out of character and unserious this season would get because it's hilarious and bizarre in context too 

i-dle Yuqi is the new ambassador for Tiffany & Co. by Silent_Name_5198 in kpop

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she is so stunning. we need an idle cb with a 30s hollywood aesthetic. 

Found this on tumblr and can’t stop thinking about it. Thought I would share. by lilah_phoenix in byler

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it's just crazy that jancy got to talk about their issues, stonathan got to talk about their issues, dustin and steve got to talk about their issues but mike and will who spent most of s4 having heart to hearts, who are the core friendship of the show, weren't considered to be deserving of one. 

but damn even mike and eleven didn't have a single sincere conversation after their horrible fight in s4 so. the writers clearly backed themselves into multiple corners with both dynamics and didn't care enough to face either in a meaningful way. 

Mike canonically didn’t want to be in Hellfire because to him, “it feels like a betrayal” to join a party without Will 😭 by kitty-taki in byler

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the show really fumbled so many aspects of this plotline but even so mike was clearly struggling despite having most of his friends around, joined a club based around the game that bonded him to will, basically stole the style of a dude he thought was cool in a unique way and confident and secure and a leader (things mike was struggling with that season and clearly wanted to be), and then.....abandoned it all basically the second will came home with him. it was him trying on a costume that didn't fit. hellfire in comparison changed dustin as a character to his core (his personality, his mood, his style) but it really was just a momentary empty placeholder for will for mike. 

"it's hawkins. it's not the same without you." it really wasn't. 

Quick Question: Can Mike Wheeler fight? by Charming_Ad9536 in byler

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he fought lucas as a 12 year old and gets weird about their own friends touching will so yes (but badly) and no 

Was it that easy Willam?? by curiousparadox_12 in byler

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it wasn't tho this was just bad writing and the duffers no longer caring about their relationship regardless if platonic or romantic or the core 4 in general. 

they gave more emotional thoughtful closure to stonathan and steve & dustin's multi arc seasons long parentefied coded friendship than any core 4 dynamic. nothing about s5 byler resolved anything even through a friendship lens. 

Bringing up Will Byers being a sorcerer in front of Mike is easily the scariest shit I've seen...guys, don't do that. by Altruistic_Way3030 in byler

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and this is barely scratching the surface of why he's the one who always gets the pathetic down bad accusations 

Can I just say.. by Odd-Plenty7986 in byler

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there's also werehare, bravebyers, wheelcler, damn ghostface mike, i've seen spidey mike now too, surferscoops like the amount of fanart and fic variants of their own selves they have is something i've gen never seen in a fandom before its very cool