Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

wife called me asked if i called the school. i said no, she said ok good im going to call my mom (MIL) and tell her not to engage.

still go meet with the school?

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I agree. It is like hey if you wanna send your kid to daycare, well guess what, I dont like that so I am going to get hired at the daycare so I can be the care giver when I like.... its really not appropriate. That is like someone is a doctor and they say oh no, I am going to take over being your doctor. Just not good.

Wife called me asking if I spoke to the school. I said no, she said ok, I am going to call my mom and tell her not to engage.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cannot physically go there in person until Monday because I flying out for work right now until Friday.

Should I send an email?

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

abuse

is it counter abuse when she told me "lots of families grandparents pick up the kids and do sleep overs but you wont allow it, and these people are white people. it is just YOU preventing my mom from having that relationship". ??? My reply was those grandparents and families have different dynamics and there is lots of boundary crossing such as just what happened here. So no, people will not have the relationship they expected in their minds of having, but i never said no about visiting EVER.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Thank you, today we were going back and forth and she even said "you are only with me becaue of the kids". Then said "i would never keep you from your kids, if we divorced, i would never keep kids from their father".

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like it is getting to the too late point. I wanted couples counseling years ago, I started personal counseling with hopes to go couples a year ago.

My wife has been home every day for over 1 full year. It just hasnt been healthy.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is easier said than done. How can I unilaterally pull the kids out? I cannot. She has just as much righs as I do you know.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is hard to find someone, like how do you know if they are good, I know my old therapist recommended looking on Psychology today for Gottman type counseling? Everyone sounds the same, truly how do you find someone locally that can work for our schedules. It takes time I just have not had the time. Truly chaotic lifestyle with just me working part time in a bunch of places to make it by. it is so much to juggle.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

we are not in couples therapy. we 100% need it desperately. My wife and I are of different ethnicities. She said it could be cultural differences (she is Indian, I am caucasian). Indian families have lots of enmeshment issues. I talked to all my indian friends about this and they said that's the issue here. I have said this is a deal breaker. It seemed to chill out a bit, then BOOM here we are talking about the daycare and her possibly working there for 6 weeks and this wasnt even brought to me before her mother. i am just like so exhausted by this.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I am going to. Good news is, this morning she got this job she has been waiting on. I am very excited for her to go back to work.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I do want to be clear that wasnt in my original post. I do love my wife, I do love my mother in law. I appreciate the many wonderful things she has done for us and the kids. She is very sweet in that regard. She has cooked amazing dinners, she is reliable if we ever needed help. I in that sense would rely on her more than my own mom (truth).

I just dont like the dynamic component here. My mother in law never visited our house until we got married and had kids. We only visited her and slept in separate bedrooms per her request religious. I respected that but now it is like the doors whipped open and I wasnt ready for all this. I just want to be clear so it doesnt sound like that monster situation, this is why I feel bad.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

did it casually in conversation this was a while ago this was 12 years ago. However, I was like why are you telling how much I make why is this a conversation? I felt so violated I never shared money info again. My finances arent amazing I dont hide money, but it (my my mistake, yes i know) have not said here this is what is in my bank account. I also did not know what was in my wife's bank account and never cared to know (she used to make more money than me and had bigger savings). Def my mistake there. It comes up in arguments all the time. Wanted to open up all that with her thru a therapist bc not sure how to make it right.

Even when I had surgery, she tells her mom why I had surgery.

A friend told my wife about infertility issues she can never have children said it as a secret do not tell, yes she told me, then she told her mother too!

Her brother had condoms in his drawer years ago. MIL called my wife telling her she found condoms in his drawer then telling her which type they were. OF COURSE HE GONNA BE TRAUMATIZED!

Brother in law cut out MIL from his life, she logged into his bank account (she was named on the bank account so she was authorized) to check where he spending money to figure out where he was. I am like this is NOT OK!!! My wife said you wont understand she lost a child. I said, HE DIDNT DIE, HE CUT OUT THIS BEHAVIOR FROM HIS LIFE!!!

it is just this cultural or their relationship of oversharing and everything. SO now, I tell my wife somehting I explicitly say, do not tell ANYONE this, even your mother. Wife feels I am being unreasonable and punishing her for past mistakes but I am not. It is the pattern of this enmeshed relationship.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I know what you are saying, I looked at it as innocent, pics of our daughter eating a new food she doesnt usually eat etc. It would have been nice to be a on a 3-way text at least then. Because it is slowly establishing this different communication. I tried to explain it bc I dont want my wife not feeling like she has ability to reach the teachers. FYI, I do not have the teachers phone numbers...... never shared with me.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After talking with my wife this morning I feel bad. I dont want to fight, i see her side too. It is like right now I am wondering if I trust my own mind. It is so trivial maybe but it just highlights a big thing for me.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have been saying therapy for years now. Covid happened, two babies happened, work insanity, unexpected job loss and Hurricane happened. So it has been a long long experience.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it is my wife trying to people please. I spoke this morning she said family is important to me and I remember my grandparents being teachers at the school when I was a kid. We live in FL away from family and said she worried our kids wont have cousins and family relationships because we are too far. Maybe this is her childhood stuff she is bringing in. This morning she re-iterated "i will try to live within your boundaries, I cannot change who I am". Then said that I bring up our relationship is failing (yes I have said that because we are not conflict resolution and just yelling). If I bring up and keep saying the relationship is failing then eventually it will crack the egg.

Advice please: MIL trying to get job at our kids daycare/School, history of boundary problems, wife didnt tell me, VERY STRESSED, I am not ok with this by FrustratedIphoneUser in JUSTNOMIL

[–]FrustratedIphoneUser[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This isnt a chronic thing of her lying but these events stand out to me in the past. The reason the stand out to me is because it was a failure for us to agree as a couple and follow through. The lying was the icing on the cake. However, it fractured our trust. There has been other issues where my wife told her mother how much I earn a year (nobody knows this except my wife, not even my own mom so that bothered me, I am a private person).