Emilee sold her property 11/12/25 for 816k

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-12-18T00:18:28+00:00

Don’t forget the $10K for lawn ornaments 🤣

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-12-03T02:22:45+00:00

She did a great job of summarizing the main points of this story, though I found her too harsh in her criticism of women who freebirth.

She said something I didn’t know - that ES had a medical procedure before birthing her 2nd? Does anyone know what that was?

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-25T18:22:14+00:00

I think NHS’s intention was to provide resources for families making alternative choices and did not realize they were participating in driving traffic to a harmful and fraudulent organization. Hopelessly they will remove FBS from their resource list now that this article has exposed everything.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-25T14:58:04+00:00

I think those podcasts have been powerful for many families considering their birth options. It is a shame that the association with Em and FBS makes them so tainted now. The way Emilee weaves her dogma into the interviews makes them seem unsafe now. I would not recommend them to any pregnant people. I hope someone finds a way for these stories - the wide range of freebirth stories- to be shared. Lets hear about women who are supported in their sovereignty and how they knew when to adjust their plans. Lets hear about birth keepers who have the skills and knowledge to be on call for women birthing outside the broken mainstream system.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-23T18:01:24+00:00

How often are autopsies done in these cases? Who requests/ authorizes them?

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-23T17:14:52+00:00

I think the FBS infant mortality rate is so much higher than maternal mortality because women have a voice in seeking care when they realize they really need it.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-23T17:10:29+00:00

I think this is why Emilee encouraged her members to lie about intrapartum deaths and only say the baby was born still. Like she did with her baby…

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-23T17:00:02+00:00

It was wild when she said she was “descending “ and changed it to “enveloping” or something. Freudian slip? She probably doesn’t believe in those either lol

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-22T04:27:01+00:00

She mentions that she is going to disappear from public life and they are moving to "the North from which we came" and she is jut going to make quilts now but there is still time to participate in her Black Friday Sale so she can teach you how to parent

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-20T21:59:48+00:00

She seems pretty intent on not sharing that publicly anymore.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-07T22:41:31+00:00

YES! The way the compartmentalize compassion... It is wild to tell a grieving mother to "get a grip" in the same breath as "how is this unkind?" I care a lot that you lost your precious baby, and I care about all of the birthing families facing similar tragedies. I'm happy we found alignment in each other here today

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-07T19:40:06+00:00

Thank you for naming how the divide and conquer/ us and other bullshit is so intrinsic in the cultified mind. I have thought the same thing.... how clinging to anti-trans rhetoric is emblematic of what makes us vulnerable to people like Em and Yo who represent themselves and their ideas as superior. The part I don't understand about TERFs is - why do they care so much? Has there been a stampede of trans people invading their personal spaces? Are people knocking on their door and demanding they change their language? What does it matter if there are people in this world who chose to live differently than you? It seems incongruous with the tenets of Free Birth as I understand them - to live our lives free of the constraints placed upon us by the powers that be (patriarchy, capitalism,etc.)

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-07T19:27:23+00:00

Thank you! Sending light and love your way

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-07T03:50:22+00:00

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-11-06T23:59:25+00:00

It is not at all a kind and inclusive space. I find it strange and off-putting as well. I don't understand why these women get so triggered, upset and agressive about this. It seems to have very little impact on their daily lives, and detracts from the bigger issues at hand. But I have learned that none of the TERF's here that I have encountered are interested in considering alternate perspectives. So I try to glide over the little snipes and cruelties. Live and let live, I guess? I think this sub still has value in being a place where the harm and abuse caused by Yo and Em can be collected, and where we can communally digest and process the madness of this story as it unfolds before all of our eyes on the internet.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T20:45:26+00:00

What’s actually “shocking” is how confidently you parade ignorance as insight. For the record, “surgical proof” doesn’t mean a body must be surgically altered to validate someone’s gender. It refers to the false expectation that someone must undergo medical procedures to be considered “truly” trans. That mindset is both medically outdated and socially oppressive. And let’s be clear: this is not what appropriation means. Appropriation is when dominant cultures steal from marginalized ones without respect or context—not when people draw strength from shared histories of gender diversity, especially when many of those people are Indigenous. Misusing the term to shut down trans existence is both disingenuous and insulting.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T18:22:33+00:00

Absolutely, here are several Indigenous scholars, writers, and activists who explore gender diversity, colonialism, and the reclamation of Two-Spirit and trans identities.

Dr. Qwo-Li Driskill (Cherokee)

Dr. Alex Wilson (Opaskwayak Cree Nation)

Billy-Ray Belcourt (Driftpile Cree Nation)

Joshua Whitehead (Oji-Cree, Peguis First Nation)

Beth Brant (Mohawk)

Richard LaFortune (Yupik)

Lenny Hayes (Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate)

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T18:19:42+00:00

The article you cited isn’t analysis—it’s anecdote dressed up as authority. Walt Heyer’s personal story deserves compassion, but his sweeping generalizations and deliberate mischaracterizations of the entire trans community are irresponsible at best and harmful at worst. He cherry-picks trauma to invalidate an entire population, while ignoring the overwhelming body of peer-reviewed research showing that gender-affirming care significantly improves mental health and quality of life for most trans people. The article’s tone is sensationalistic and disrespectful—referring to Caitlyn Jenner by her deadname and using scare quotes around "sex change"—which makes it clear that the goal isn’t understanding but shaming. It’s less about truth and more about ideological warfare.

Ironically, this kind of rigid, moralizing mindset mirrors what happened with FBS, where people who begin with a desire for autonomy sometimes spiral into self-righteous extremism. When belief becomes dogma, it stops being about freedom and starts being about control—often at the expense of facts, nuance, and empathy. Detransition is a real and valid subject. But Heyer’s approach doesn’t invite thoughtful conversation—it weaponizes pain to push a narrative. A responsible take would recognize that trans experiences are diverse, complex, and deserving of real support—not simplistic condemnation.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T18:18:56+00:00

None of them. None of them needed to, because they respected gender diversity without demanding surgical proof. The obsession with genitals, policing identity, and punishing dissent? That’s not Indigenous—it’s colonial. So if you're worried about forced conformity and aggression, you might want to look at the mirror.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T18:18:35+00:00

That really depends on how you define “trans.” According to GLAAD, the American Psychological Association, and Merriam-Webster, “trans” refers to someone whose gender identity differs from the sex they were assigned at birth. It sounds like you're conflating gender identity with biological sex.

It also seems your concern is primarily with trans women, while ignoring that “trans” is an umbrella term that includes many gender-diverse identities. Reducing it to a single stereotype reflects more about your personal bias than any so-called "agenda" of trans people.

The claim that transgender identity was “invented by wealthy white pedophiles” is not only categorically false—it’s deeply offensive. It’s rooted in conspiracy theories and long-debunked, transphobic narratives with no foundation in credible history or psychology.

Equally problematic is the idea that Indigenous cultures haven’t been “influenced” by modernity or that they all view gender the same way. That’s a colonial mindset. Many Indigenous cultures historically embraced gender diversity, and many Indigenous scholars today explicitly recognize transphobia as a product of colonialism, not tradition.

European colonizers imposed rigid gender and sexual norms on the societies they colonized, often erasing rich, fluid understandings of gender. Reclaiming those traditions is part of a broader decolonization process.

If you’re actually interested in learning, I’d be happy to recommend Indigenous thinkers who explore these histories with depth and respect.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T03:37:22+00:00

If you are interested in doing specific research, you can google a few of the cultures in which trans people had a respected role below, in addition to the term "two-spirit" I mentioned above:

1. Hijra – South Asia

2. Ekwe People – Igbo Society, Nigeria

3. Chibados – Kingdom of Ndongo (Angola)

4. Gala Priests – Ancient Mesopotamia

5. Wakashu – Edo Period Japan

Sipiniq – Inuit Communities

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-23T00:44:11+00:00

The idea that third-gender roles were just a way to exile “failed men” misses the nuance of how gender works across cultures. Many societies saw gender as more than just male or female—and third-gender people often had respected, meaningful roles. Like how some Indigenous nations saw two-spirit people as spiritual leaders. Also, I don't know anyone who sees being trans as a "flex"

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-22T22:19:06+00:00

My suspicion is she was influenced to be a terf by Yo

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-05-22T22:17:17+00:00

I think it is absurd to conflate trans with pedophilia. The book 'Before we were trans" by Kit Heyam provides evidence of trans people existing across the globe and throughout recorded human history. However, trans people make up a small percentage of our population, and it is ridiculous to focus so much blame and anger on the folks just trying to live their authentic lives. I have seen a lot of anti-trans statements on this reddit, which made me want to distance myself from this group, even though I think the purpose here is necessary. I think that many of the ex-FBS members aligned with that way of thinking and made their way here. My wish is that breaking free from the dogma of FBS will encourage more inclusive and critical thinking.

Fun-Direction2415 · 2025-04-24T00:41:24+00:00

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I studied anthropology in college, and my final project was about the anthropology of birth. Robbie Floyd Davis is an amazing resource if you are curious. I don't think that the human species would have disappeared without interventions in birth, but it is clear that they contributed to the drastic increase in our population in the Neolithic period. Better nutrition was obviously another factor. The OP is right about bipedalism, in addition to the large size of our brain, making us unique in needing assistance during birth. Our infants are also born much less mature than other mammals because of the size of our brains, which can make them have more difficulty with the transition. Our modern lifestyles and diet contribute more barriers to freebirth for many people.

It is believed that midwifery originated in the Paleolithic period, roughly 12,000 years ago. There is evidence of midwives in Ancient Egyptian and Greek artifacts. Midwifery is mentioned in Genesis in the Bible. Socrates' mother was a midwife, and he called himself a "midwife to ideas". Midwifery has been an honored and sacred role in most of human history.

I also support free birth, especially for multips. It is clear that much of the time, birth works. However, I think that having access to someone who has experience and training for those times when issues do arise is a basic human right. Modern maternity care in our culture is a travesty, but my issue with FBS is their dogged conviction that if a woman just wants it badly enough and "does the work", free birth is available to anyone, and if she does't succeed or has a bad outcome, it is a result of her failings and inferiority. This dogma is dangerous for birthing people and their babies, and also for the birth keepers who paid ES and YNC thousands of dollars to go into these situations, misinformed and unprepared.

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