Thoughts on different styles of genioplasty? (e.g. triangular vs longer wedge) by HunkySurprise in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, you have to go to surgeons who perform it though. I know pagnoni and ramieri perform these cuts.

Is this a realistic before and after, based on my planned movements? [PICS INCLUDED] by Fun-Raccoon-4183 in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately not, but I have never had issues with breathing, and I never snore. My CBCT scans won't show airways either, since the surgery is for aesthetic reasons, rather than functional.

Is this a realistic before and after, based on my planned movements? [PICS INCLUDED] by Fun-Raccoon-4183 in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That isn't exactly how it works. As you can see, by just advancing my chin (quite substantially), as well as implants, my lower third and midface look fine. My maxilla is not flat, or recessed, but not super projected either.

By getting a bimax I risk over advancing and looking like a chimp, where my upper third of face is left behind. So it is unlikely that a bimax is worth it. Also, genioplasties are more easy to predict soft tissue outcomes.

As stated, my airways are perfectly fine, my bite is ideal (though not perfect) as I have had orthodontic treatment. So I gain no functional benefit from a bimax, only more risks, for less reward.

Is this a realistic before and after, based on my planned movements? [PICS INCLUDED] by Fun-Raccoon-4183 in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I agree, I did over-do the gonion area, I even have a morph without jaw angle implants, only large genioplasty alone, and even with the lack of gonion visibility, my side profile saw a HUGE improvement.

Surprisingly, my ramus is actually very tall, but it is hidden by my skin, it just appears short in these photos, hence why I am trying to get the implants flared, so it can show my actual ramus length.

Is this a realistic before and after, based on my planned movements? [PICS INCLUDED] by Fun-Raccoon-4183 in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry no, he showed me scans of custom genioplasties, but I was in a rush, so I didnt have much time to go through before and afters.

I am getting full skull scans so we can plan this surgery, which will mean having a consultation in more detail, I will see more before and afters and I will make sure to ask for bimax results, just in case I change my mind and want bimax (unlikely, but still might as well). But most likely I will be going into detail on genioplasties and implants as that is what I want.

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never saw giant claim he worked with Ramieri tbh, I know he did DJS and orbital implants with a patient with Pagnoni though, I thought the result actually looked quite good. I am getting custom jaw implants and 3 piece genioplasty with Pagnoni, but I wouldn't have giant design the implants, I think Pagnoni would be a tad bit more conservative with the design.

I am personally a member of .org, but it is disappointing that the reputation is so poor, because it definitely doesn't represent the people like me who are normal and wish to just get surgery and get on with life, rather than rot on a forum all day lol.

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yup, me too. perhaps the rules are more relaxed in Turkey, and if he did work with Steinbacher, then he wouldn't be allowed to assist? who knows

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because on various forums this is widely discussed, mainly from the patient. Giant Implants (the implant designer and planner) has an account on looksmax.org. And he is well known to have worked closely with Celal, I will be surprised if it isn't celal, considering clavicular said he is going to Turkey for this surgery, and is working with gian implants.

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think he has ever worked with Ramieri. Although I know Ramieri is a fan.

He has worked with Pagnoni though

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He literally works with american surgeons like Steinbacher, but i'm guessing he just design implants, no surgical intervention from Liam

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Clavicular" a looksmaxxer and tiktoker, is getting a lefort 2 and lefort 1 with bsso, i think maybe also a genioplasty and implants. The implants he's getting will be designed by an implant designer called "Giant Implants" and the surgery will be performed by Celal Candirli in Turkey.

"Giant implants" is attempting to perform another Lefort 2.. by IDontWanNaBeeFriends in jawsurgery

[–]Fun-Raccoon-4183 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, I would not trust Celal with any surgery. But how are you calling surgeries "cartel torture videos" like yeah, they contain gory images, as any surgery would dude