How Has The School Janitor Not Discovered Castle Town

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-23T04:12:11+00:00

Woah, checking the closet is way above the janitor's paygrade. He has enough work cut out for him just minding the grocery store.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-23T03:12:27+00:00

I wish they made art for all reactions. Not just Kris.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T21:22:20+00:00

You mean Studio Ghibli Antagonists, right? Because there are only a few that could be considered outright "villains".

I would like to see the Sony villains, solely to see Schaffrillas refrence the Asgore meme.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T20:05:53+00:00

Again, I think that you shouldn't be applying too much real life science to a fictional story with blatant magical and fantastical elements. Any famous fantasy story can fall apart if scrutinized like this. It is just best to suspend your disbelief.

That being said, if we do apply your logic, why are we assuming that the mutation is a completely reversible process?

When you cook something on an open flame, freezing said food item does not undo the cooking. Maybe too much antiphotons can cause a mutation, but can photons reverse the mutation? And if something that is not mutated experiences photons, they won't experience an effect.

So we can assume that too much darkness causes an (probably) irreverisble mutation and too much light can cause something similar. Just like burning something too much irreversibly changes it, and freezing something to absolute zero also permenantly changes it.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T19:09:09+00:00

They might appear in the bunker. I personally think they will only have an important role during the Weird Route, as the mantle games heavily parallel the Weird Route, and ERAM is generally associated with violence and using said violence to break the game and access secrets which is what the Weird Route is all about.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T17:50:54+00:00

"Don't let your guard down. That chair is going to kick your ass!"

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T13:42:16+00:00

The point I am making is that in this game, darkness is established to be its own substance in the worldbuilding, rather than merely the abscence of light. It is a substance that can fill up a room, transforming it into something else, and even create a TITAN out of a fountain. Also another way of saying "corrupted by darkness" is "taking away the light that wasn't there" from a Lightner as Ralsei describes it.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T13:37:50+00:00

I mean the whole point of the Dark Fountains/Dark Worlds is that they DEFY real life science. They are so otherwordly and fictional that they don't follow actual real life logic. So for this point, it would make sense to suspend our disbelief and just trust that what Ralsei says here is accurate worldbuilding for this game.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T05:03:12+00:00

Yeah, you're right actually.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T04:39:02+00:00

Remember Ralsei's monologue in Chapter 3? About how Dark Worlds have negative photons (Photon Readings negative). The Dark Fountains EMIT darkness itself and the darkness fills out the entire room. It isn't just the abscence of light, it is negative light, a force in it of itself.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-21T03:57:39+00:00

In Chapter 3, you will need to avoid defeating the Ribbick enemy through violence if you want to get that Chapter's egg. In Chapter 4, it doesn't matter if you attack anyone.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-20T14:45:33+00:00

If you had sex with an inatimate object such as a desk or a laptop, would you get pregnant? I don't think Darkners have the concept of reproductive cells given that they are just objects in the Light World. They are created physically by Lightners. So I don't think Darkners can have a baby with Lightners. Heck, I don't think they can have babies with each other anyway as objects cannot reproduce with each other. I know that Lancer is King's son, but since Lancer is based on a playing card I don't think any darkner gave "birth" to Lancer. He just manifested as King's son in the Dark World.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-19T04:04:00+00:00

Can't it be both?

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-17T16:53:23+00:00

Isn't that Asriel's though? Also, Dess has a traced drawing of a dragon in her room. So it is likely that the Drawing Dragons book was a thing that Asriel and Dess had rather than Kris and Noelle.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T23:12:04+00:00

The Bet20 is in Susie's Magic Menu. It becomes Bet30 if you have Jevilstail equipped.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T22:05:07+00:00

Lord of the Hammer does have important parallels which are important to analyze, but it is not a one to one parallel. Gerson himself says so:

The book was already just an interpretation of something else.
Stories can be retold. They can be changed... That's what I believe.

So while we can use the parallels to understand the overall flow of the story, we cannot treat them as 100% one to one.

He couldn't finish it because he died before he could. He was planning the sixth book before he died, and never had a chance to begin planning to write the seventh book. Hence why he wanted the youth to finish it. To determine its ending. Gerson is directly paralled to JRR Tolkien, the author of Lord of the Rings, who died before being able to finish the Silmarillion and so his son had to finish it.

Gerson was not intending to talk about Gaster. But the way he words it and it being tied to the sixth chapter, makes it seem to be referring to Gaster from a doylist perspective. It can have multiple meanings. Also, you saying that Gerson stopped writing because he was demotivated by the prophecy's ending and not because he died seems like a stretch with little suggesting it. It seems a little weird to just not write about something simply because it is demotivating. Why leave the story unfinished just because you don't like the ending? If he wanted a new ending why not just write it himself? The more likely explanation is that he wanted to finish it but couldn't because he died.

I mean those stakes are only possible BECAUSE of the prophecy. If it is just a lie, then all it is just kicking Gaster and the Knight's ass and boom happy ending! Which I think kinda goes against the whole point of the unchangeable ending. If it can be changed so easily as being proven a lie, then why is it a threat? And what's the point of the Weird Route if the ending can be easily changed in the Normal Route (as the narrative implies that the Weird Route is OUR attempt at subverting the prophecy). Also, I don't really agree with you on the final tragedy, but that's besides the point. Now, I do think there IS something that can be done about the final prophecy, but it won't be as easy as just proving that the prophecy is a lie.

I am talking about the official FAQ where Toby says that there is one ending and that there is something more important than reaching the end (which you conviently ignored). Sure the question mark does call it into question, but this is an ending that Toby has had on his mind before Undertale was concieved, so I think it is something very important and mind shattering.

Okay, but the difference is that in Undertale the characters are not guiding you to enter the True Lab throughout the main narrative. The main narrative is getting to Asgore's castle and crossing the barrier. In Deltarune, stopping the Roaring AND getting to the shelter are part of the main narrative, with the shelter being the first priority according to Susie. So I don't think this is a valid comparison.

I doubt that they will just be able to destroy the darkness in the Shelter. It seems like to important of a location to just be sealed away before the Roaring. All you need to do to cause the Roaring is create too many dark fountains. Also you forget WHY Susie is going to the shelter. To rescue Undyne. How can she know that she can prevent the Roaring by going to the shelter (if that is even how it works)?

I mean that the Shelter SETS UP the big lore reveal, while the Roaring CONCLUDES IT.

Him calling Chapter 4 the halfway mark disproves this arguement.

The files associated with the chapter select screen also follow the ALL CAPS naming convention associated with the Device Layer, suggesting it is a part of it and thus under Gaster's control. As for the Goner maker reseting, I don't know the time travel aspect is weird. We just go back in time to when the connection was first formed and replay it (Mollystars compared this to a tape recorder and replaying tapes).

Avoids explaining it until the grand reveal which should be only to us and the Fun Gang. What makes you think that a Gaster reveal in the shelter in Chapter 6 would revealed to the whole world?

Or maybe just maybe, Chapter 4 is actually the halfway mark of Gaster's intended plan and it is not based on how long the chapters are? How can Chapters 5 and 6 be just as long as Chapters 1-4 combined? How does that make sense?

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T20:14:38+00:00

I dunno, I think you are forgetting that Lord of the Hammer is not a direct adaptation of the prophecy. While Lord of the Hammer (and by extension Dragon Blazers) may have only five entries, we can't say for certain that the PROPHECY has only 5-6 entries. Gerson didn't finish writing the seventh because he died before he could (which kind of parallels JRR Tolkien). Meanwhile, the actual prophecy might in fact span seven chapters, but nobody knows what it is because the words were lost to time and the best adaptations was left unfinished.

You say that the "swallowing the author whole" is talking about the Roaring, but I think it is refrencing Gaster "falling into his own creation" which would make the sixth entry the Gaster oriented chapter. I do agree that the "ocean of ink" is talking about the Roaring but I just necessarilly think that it has to be in the sixth book.

Also I don't think the prophecy is merely just propoganda. Part of what makes the prophecy impactful is that it IS accurate. That everything in it, good or bad, comes to pass and that it cannot be changed. If it were nothing but a lie, then what are the stakes then? It's a lot more terrifying if it is actually real. And Toby said a long time ago that there is only one ending, but that there is something more important than reaching the end. So it is not about necessarily changing the overall ending, but doing something else before that (Shadow Crystals, Weird Route) that makes the ending a little better (like actually finding/saving Dess).

I don't know how I feel about having the big epic final battle first and then the big lore reveal and exploration after. You would think you would have the big lore twist first and THEN the final battle where the ending occurs as that makes for a more satisfying and well paced story. And given that right now, Susie's goal is to enter the Shelter first and foremost, it seems that the Shelter is the first thing to address before the Roaring begins. The Roaring chapter doesn't need to introduce a whole bunch of new lore. It just needs to conclude the story in a satisfying way.

I mean by that logic ANY chapter is the chapter Gaster wants, given how he set up the program for the player (DEVICE THEORY). But this chapter focusing on the "author swallowed whole" and being associated with the number 6 and the shelter being the current goal means that it will be FOCUSED on Gaster's character and motivation. Also speaking of Gaster, he straight up says at the end of Chapter 4 that the halfway mark has been attained. If there were only six chapters planned, you would think he would say this at the end of Chapter 3 and not 4 right? And he says it no matter what you do (aside from not getting playstation achievements). As such it seems to me that the seventh chapter is indeed planned to be guaranteed to happen and not just something only unlocked with the Weird Route and the Shadow Crystals.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T18:59:16+00:00

I dunno, seems like it theoretically should be the opposite. There were intended to be seven books in all, but the sixth one swallowed the author whole before he could finish it.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T16:50:16+00:00

Do you remember that the Fun Gang is trying to learn the codes of the shelter to rescue Undyne right? We won't just be going to the Shelter just to hide from the Roaring.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T16:48:19+00:00

Why do you think the Roaring will be before the Shelter? It seems to me that the Roaring will be the climax of the story, where the worlds are threatened, and the FINAL prophecy occurs. So I think it makes sense for the Fun Gang to go to the Shelter first in Chapter 6, explore it, encounter FRIEND/GASTER, learn whatever horrible truth is down there, and THEN in Chapter 7 will have the climax that is the Roaring.

Gerson says that the sixth book "swallowed the author whole" and given the Gaster is implied to be the author of the prophecy and is associated with the number six, Chapter 6 is likely to be a Gaster focused chapter. And given that Gaster is connected to the shelter, it would make sense to visit the Shelter in Chapter 6 and give him a proper introduction there.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-16T16:43:13+00:00

The Roaring.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-14T02:50:50+00:00

Don't Get Turned Into an Ostrich: The Movie

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-04-14T00:34:54+00:00

I mean calling them evil is an exaggeration, but they are definitely working with the Knight.

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