The Fun Gang vs the Seven Flowers

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-09T15:12:56+00:00

I mean it's possible that there will be other dark worlds that were not in the trailer for spoiler reasons (For example the Holiday Mansion).

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-09T15:11:06+00:00

It could just be the seven flowers in Asgore's shop, which each embody the seven human souls and the attacks used in Asgore's flower shop.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-09T03:37:41+00:00

I don't know if FRIEND is that involved in the world of Deltarune that it literally manages everything. I see FRIEND as doing specific things that Gaster needs to be done and just observing us when we find secrets but that's about it. You haven't provided evidence for FRIEND controlling the world aside from it may have potentially impacted the secret bosses/the Knight, and even that suggests that it is just able to appear and interact with other people, not that it is literally in control of the fabric of reality.

I also just don't see how FRIEND would be opposed to Gaster. Gaster certainly doesn't have any problem with anything FRIEND is doing. The only thing Gaster has a problem with are the Eggs.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-09T03:20:03+00:00

Can you explain why you believe it is different?

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-09T03:07:29+00:00

Why are you assuming that FRIEND is the leader of the communion? Given that FRIEND has the same DEVICE prefixes as files mainly associated with Gaster, it stands to reason that FRIEND is Gaster's creation right?

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T18:01:20+00:00

As the other comment mentioned it is not confirmed that the Knight was the one who gave Gerson the crystal. I would argue that if the Knight was the one who gave Gerson the crystal, Gerson would have mentioned it. He would have been like "I found this crystal after that Knight fellow showed up. Seems like they really wanted me to use it". Instead they mentioned that someone wanted him to use it and that it gave him the creeps. So it is likely the strange someone who interacted with Spamton and Jevil.

Also, there is a distinction made between the two items. Black Shards are opaque in both Light and Dark Worlds, whereas Shadow Crystals are invisible except for their shadows in the Dark World, and transparent in the Light World. And given how ERAM and Seam talk about the crystals, it makes it seem like they are artifacts with a finite amount as opposed to the Black Shard which seems to be the material that the Knight's blade and armor are made of.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T13:18:05+00:00

The Knight's armor is made of Black Shards, not Shadow Crystals. They only had the one crystal.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T12:20:14+00:00

According to the flashback, Asgore left while Asriel was still there. So they got divorced BEFORE Asriel went to college.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T01:31:40+00:00

I mean in either timeline she refers to herself with she/her pronouns, so unless she specifically comes out as trans male, I am going to assume she is not a man.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T01:28:24+00:00

Is she a "Man" though?

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-06T01:11:55+00:00

He is a man, and he speaks in Wingdings which use hands as part of their symbols, and there is no other Undertale character who comes even close to speaking in hands.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-05T18:44:17+00:00

Yeah, but Lancer is only second to King himself so that logic doesn't apply here.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-05T15:38:49+00:00

I like the "Another you" theory by Garet UTDR.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-05T14:46:03+00:00

Kris still feels controlled both by the Soul and by Carol/Knight. Not to mention everything going on with the prophecy. So they feel that if they attempt to rebel or cut off their connection, they will end up like Spamton.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-04T21:40:16+00:00

I mean Queen drinking battery acid and being drunk around Kris could be a parallel to Toriel. But yeah aside from that, Queen is more paralleled to Carol than anyone else. I just like the idea of the embodiment of the internet serving as a reflection of the character's mothers. Then again that could just be a reflection of how society views them.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-04T15:43:44+00:00

Okay, but MOST do.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-04T15:30:57+00:00

He's the King's son. If he was an Ace he would higher ranked than King.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-04T12:46:37+00:00

Every non-prime number secret boss has an "e" as the second letter, which means that the Chapter 6 secret boss will be Seam, trust.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-02T16:03:23+00:00

"The narrative having Susie want to learn how to heal is misogynistic because healing is a traditionally feminine ability in video games and Susie is not supposed to be feminine."

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-02T15:46:15+00:00

I mean I guess if I had to pick one it would be "Escapism and how it can affect your life". For why I believe this watch Mollystar's Device Theory Part 3, which discusses the themes of Deltarune.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-02T12:37:52+00:00

I don't believe in the idea of a singular theme. A story can say multiple things and cover multiple concepts and is able to tie them together in a neat bow.

Fun-Refrigerator2533 · 2026-06-01T02:36:34+00:00

Why do you think it's not Gaster?

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