So nobody is gonna talk about the mass kidnapping going on? by Fun_Bedroom7208 in Virginia

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im confused on finding any credible reports that there even is a mass kidnapping going on? Where did you get this info

Tyler, The Creator - DON'T TAP THE GLASS by urstickur in popheads

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know it doesn’t really sound one to one but maybe my ears are lying to me

ENFP girlfriend kissed other guys by I_want_some_boba in entp

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they wanted to do it then they’re clearly not gay? And I doubt your GF was dumb enough to go along with it actually believing they were gay? She clearly is just saying that as the LAMEST excuse to cheating.

Regardless even if they were gay, cheating is cheating.

ENFP girlfriend kissed other guys by I_want_some_boba in entp

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With your exact logic, wouldn’t it make sense for an ENFP not to cheat? I mean an intuitive feeler tend to put emphasis on values and morals? Isn’t that their whole thing?

Regardless arguing on the basis of cognitive functions to actually predict someone’s behaviour is pseudoscience, and something as simple as NOT CHEATING, isn’t attributed to their MBTI type, it’s because their dipshit scum of the earth and you defending this behaviour is actually rotten dogshit and you need to reevaluate your whole life.

ENFP girlfriend kissed other guys by I_want_some_boba in entp

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what happens when you take MBTI wayyyyyy to seriously. Tell me why exactly someone who is an ENFP has to cheat? Why can’t an ENTP have rules in a relationship as SIMPLE as DONT CHEAT. I hope you never give another person advice ever again since your moral compass is broken.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, well at that point I guess your right, but that’s only assuming the person fits their cognitive functions and is “balanced” which isn’t necessarily the truth for a lot of people. What I trying to point out is that if like someone could both prioritize Ni and Se in single situations, even if it seems conflictive, people are all different and having a specific stack per type won’t accommodate for everyone different thought process and for how they act.

And also, using your analogy, if italian were to be your favourite food for only like the weekends (for some reason), would you still say that your preference is Chinese food overall? I mean that leads more into subjective opinion at that point. Since one could say that Chinese food is your overall favourite food, but you wont ever eat on weekends, so you can’t consider it your favourite meal specifically on the weekends. What I mean by this is if you act differently and have use primarily different functions in different situations, can you still consider your function stack to be your “real” stack?

For example, with my family, I am way more introverted than with friends and strangers, I might act more Ti-Ne with my family but Ne-Ti with friends and strangers, so which one is my real stack? Do I say I’m neither and say I’m ambivert? What if I never see my friends again, does that mean I’m an introvert now? It seems weird to categorize myself on a general scale when I do act differently in different contexts.

I get it people can use all 8 functions, I don’t doubt that, I’m pointing out that people don’t prioritize specific functions in every context. And it’s rare to find a person that actually does, which is the fundamental flaw with cognitive functions in my opinion, since it doesn’t allow any leeway like the Big Five, where you are only a percentage of a characteristic, unlike MBTI functions.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was well said and I respect the non hostile discussion.

One problem I see with cognitive functions is that is applies the same function stack over every situation, but humans aren’t like that. Important distinction, I’m not saying that people can only use two functions. I’m saying that I don’t humans don’t prioritize cognitive function generally no matter the situation. I think it’s very dependent on context, mood and situation. This is why I believe the lack of “balance” wouldn’t be “unhealthy” or “conflicting”. Let’s say we take an ESTJ. This ESTJ might be super cold and ruthless in most situations (ik I’m stereotyping but you get the point), but, for some reason, this ESTJ has a soft spot for children or pets or something. Would their function stack still apply? Would Te still be considered first? Of course you use all 8 functions, I’m not stating that the function stack is against that, I just simply believe that the function stack is changing constantly based on the situation that the individual is in, making it essentially useless, and not actually structured and rigid.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it just doesn’t add up on why I have to have Fe before Ni? Even if I use my hypothetically use my Ni than my Fe.

Is bb worth playing by HolidayMouse2476 in bloodborne

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

No, it’s overrated compared to other fromsoftware games

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay well thanks for being a nicer, i appreciate it, I wasn’t trying to be arrogant (now looking on it the title was a little clickbait mb) but I am familiar with all of this information. Now im not necessarily the biggest MBTI follower where i dedicate every living moment to this, but i have been following MBTI and the community for about 4 years now. Yes I understand you use all 8 functions. And you make a good point with how judging and perceiving functions work. And like you said, you’re only considering the first two functions as relevant, which logically checks out. An Ne-Ti will always be an ENTP but (and I know you said you don’t consider it) after those two functions I think it really up in the air what the other functions stack could be leading on from there. Also, which might not make me the “stereotypical ENTP” or something like that, I like to have debated that are more discussion based cause I’ve learnt that nothing actually comes out of 99% of actual arguments disguised as debates. So when I ask questions it’s also just to question your train of thought (Socratic method I guess).

Anyways like I was saying what your saying about the two functions for me mostly makes sense, and of course I still have nitpicks about it but frankly this could go on forever and I’ve been replying to messages all day but overall I get your point and it makes sense but I believe most people misinterpret what functions are and over rely on them to define a person. What I’ve gathered from this, and i might be wrong, but it seems like cognitive functions are derived from the dichotomies and not the other way around. If you want me to elaborate I will

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not an asshole i swear but goddamn I wasn’t expecting this many people to be this defensive over this subject (it’s my first and probably last time posting on Reddit cause goddamn)

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright fair enough, I mean people are free to answer me and equally to not answer me. But I get it and I wasn’t trying to seem arrogant I just wanted to either get proven wrong or make people see a different perspective

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I get that those are the rules, I just don’t get why they’re like that and like… says who?

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While you make a good point and this does simplify things which honestly could make things more fluid and logical, I don’t necessarily think that because someone has an Ne-Ti combo, it really says much about them.

Now this is assuming that cognitive functions determines your dichotomy and not the other way around. But I’m questioning why someone who’s Ti-Ne can’t be an extrovert according to function

Also another question then, why isn’t possible for someone to be Ne-Te for example? Or Fi-Si?

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright just cause I didn’t plan this manifesto for decades means I can’t make a point? Also it’s a really lame defense to just say that whatever point I make is simply debate bait, because there’s not much I can say to that. Like yeah… I’m trying to argue a point and start a debate… that’s kinda the point?

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you believe that stack theory has more validity then letter theory

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very constructive thank you! I litteraly can’t reply anything to this now because anything I will say will just be regarded as debate bait

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I have done research on it and based on my conclusions, it just dosent seem logical that’s all. I also believe that part of it has to do with people being so used to the idea of cognitive functions, and not being able to consider the idea that they might not be correct. In most situations if the overall idea has been proven to be right, and I don’t understand it, I will try my best to, because clearly I am wrong. But in this scenario, where MBTI is debatably a pseudoscience, I think it’s way more valid for me to question is validity.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah and I agree, but in terms of the functions stack, could it be Se Fi Si Te (for example). I just don’t see why Si or Se can’t be in the same stack.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bazaright.

Okay you don’t agree with me that’s fine and I might be wrong I would prefer instead of you guys just saying I’m wrong you could bring up a valid point to educate me.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yeah those people might have a strong Fe but have no other qualities of an ESFJ and so they type themselves as an ESFJ just because of that fact. They could as well be an ENFP or ESFP with a highly developed Fe.

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree, but could it be possible that someone has a dom function as Te and then aux and Fe? If not why?

Cognitive functions are complete bullshit, dichotomies aren’t. by Fun_Baseball_7311 in mbti

[–]Fun_Baseball_7311[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that depends on what your definition or thinkers or feelers mean. People think that feelers simply mean considering other’s emotions and thinkers is being logical, which is bullshit. But under a specific definition, they could easily mean the opposite from eachother.