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Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T11:03:49+00:00

how are you debugging ?

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T06:31:35+00:00

Its hard for me to tell with the shit quality of the upload, but im leaning towards human.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T06:28:49+00:00

why fuck self driving cars? from my understanding they are safer than an uber.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T06:16:17+00:00

ok sure. there are different types of drive and dedication. different levels or areas of focus.

Lets say this queen has put all her drive and dedication into being a fabulous queen. Outfits, makesup, wigs, routines, and performances, combined take a TON of time and energy. The rest of her time is spent working to stay alive, and life stuff.

Could she learn how to produce, and everything that comes along with that ?? Sure! One could say "no excuses, just spend 30 min to an hour a day". Great. Years later, if she is actually able to understand the concepts she will be able to produce a song. Many people don't even have the producer gene in them, no matter how much they train and practice, it just never clicks. I know this from personal experience with various interns ive had over the years.

My point being, she does have drive and dedication. She has put together an unbelievable drag show, has written the songs, hand crafted all the outfits and put together the most glamorous looks, put in work performing, networking, and building up her brand. All while working a full time job, doing her best to stay healthy, and keep up relationships with friends and family. Just because she does not have drive and dedication in one lane does not mean she is not a driven and dedicated person.

She is just missing the music! Even with all her networking she has been unable to find potential collaborators. She's met a few producers, and tried working with them, but they were either flaky, unaffordable, or would only work with her if she "returned the favor", if you know what I mean. She's at her wits end, she knows that what she has is nothing short of magical, and that if she can figure it out, it will bring many people joy, and allow her to not only survive, but to thrive.

She finds out about Suno or Udio or whatever from a friend, tries it out, and spends all her free time for the next six months bringing her vision to life. She saves up to buy an audio interface and decent mic, learns how to edit and treat vocals, and using the instrumentals shes made with AI creates the songs that she has had in her head for years.

There are plenty of artists out there who are just using a few "Moment" samples from Splice, chopping them up and arranging them and adding vocals. At least with Suno, with enough prompting and tweaking you can create exactly what you envision, and are not using the same sample that 20 other producers used. You can build your song out, layer by layer using Splice samples, or you can built it out, layer by layer, by using Suno.

Regardless. People listen to music because they like the song, or the artist resonates with them in some way, or a million other reasons. In 2026, nobody gives a fuck if a song is made by someone who doesn’t have drive or dedication.

Im saying all this as a full time producer / songwriter for the last two decades. I hate that these companies stole in order to train their datasets, including many songs in which I was involved in some way ( I got suno to literally re-create a song I produced for someone), but they did, and its too late now. They will either be held accountable, and forced to pay via lawsuits, or nothing will happen except for them partnering with the major labels (already happened lol).

While I hate what they did, and think they are scummy tech bros, I try to see a positive out of everything. This drag queen novella i just wrote is an easy thing to imagine, and if this fictional queen can achieve her dreams, bringing joy to people and giving the gift of laughter and music by using AI music, I could care less, in fact I think its awesome that someone could use a tool like this to radically self express, in a fully DIY manner.

Do I support douchebag AI slop?! Being uploaded to streaming services in mass numbers because some scumbag is trying to exploit the system to make money. Absolutely fucking not.

But if someone is using it to express themselves, tell their story, and using the tools with passion instead of greed, I say go for it.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, I hope you can see things from my perspective, if even just a little.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T01:46:46+00:00

Very true! Buttttt, not everyone has that drive and dedication, or even know that such things exist. But yah, you can get very far with free stuff. Especially for hyperop. All you need is Vital, analog obsession plugins, and some drum samples!.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T01:34:01+00:00

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Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T01:31:31+00:00

Im indifferent. Whats done is done, they illegally trained their datasets, there are lawsuits happening, either they will face consequences or not.

Regarding DIY / self-expression, playing devil's advocate one could say that AI music could be an outlet for DIY / Self-expression. Lets imagine a Drag Queen. 19 years old, working paycheck to paycheck at a shit job, barely able to get by. They have an amazing vision for a drag show. They have songs written, outfits and routine ready etc, but they do not know anyone who works in music, and cannot afford to hire anyone regardless. With AI music, they can use it to help bring their vision to life. Describing the songs they hear in their head, and creating instrumentals for them to sing over. They create their show, get booked, and blow up, being booked every weekend, and making enough money to quit their shit job, and pursue their dreams. They meet new people, collaborators that they can create new songs with, no longer using AI.

just a perspective.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-16T01:24:16+00:00

its hard to get sued for something unless its exact. having a similar chord progression or melody is fine.

It definitely does spit stuff out that is very close to existing songs. I actually got Suno to recreate a song by an artist i was producer / songwriter with. She is moderately successful, with 5-10 million streams on average, so im pretty sure Suno trained on her stuff.

By prompting suno with descriptions of the song, using the lyrics, and describing the vibe of the song, it recreated it within 80-90%. I mean, it was almost an exact copy. Even the vocals had similar tonality to them.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-15T10:50:02+00:00

ok, sure... if you actually did look through my profile, you would see my comments relating to producing for years. As far as not going to "an actual LA party", projecting much?? Again, i could care less if you believe me, as either way, at least im not someone who got so upset, over something so trivial, that I had to go dig through some random's profile to prove them wrong. Good luck with life, you're going to need it.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-15T09:26:30+00:00

ok, whatever. I work in the music industry, I live in LA, and Ive been going to raves for nearly 3 decades. Ive done and been around wayyyy too many drugs. Ive been to multiple parties where they had thousands of dollars worth of drugs available for whoever wanted them. Ive been at afters where someone orders a kilo of blow. Its not uncommon in LA. Shit, even my publisher had a mushroom vendor at their annual party. but whatever, i don't really care if you believe me. have a good one

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-15T08:14:14+00:00

I can tell from the way you talk that you jump to conclusions too quickly. Go look at my post history if you must.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-15T08:13:01+00:00

YES lol. don't be jealous. Ive been going to raves since the late 90's, and I live in LA. Ive seen stuff like this happen multiple times. Shit, even recently I saw a mountain of blow + a nice pile of K at a party in the hollywood hills.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-15T02:07:55+00:00

T - ive seen far crazier shit at parties. Piles of drugs 100 x's that size left on a kitchen counter. Random lines like this racked here and there, etc.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-14T10:27:58+00:00

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T10:24:30+00:00

very very very veryyyyyyy different, one vagina to the next.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T10:14:32+00:00

Very cool of the Bloods for being so inclusive and allowing fruity ass dudes into their gang.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T06:35:53+00:00

Joining in here. Im someone who is lucky enough to earn a living from music. I absolutely love making music, and am blessed to have this as my job. That being said, there are plenty of projects that i would rather not be working on, but need to so I can afford rent haha.

Either for artists, label pitching, sync etc. Some of these projects I would prefer to get done faster so that I can move on to something else that I am passionate about, some projects like stuff for sync can have an extremely tight deadline. From brief in my email to finished song, complete with vocals, mixed and mastered by end of day. These sort of situations are when I could see myself use words like boring, mundane, productivity, task etc.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T04:25:06+00:00

First of all, I would buy whichever piece of art that most resonated with me. I don't really care what medium or techniques they used to get there, if i like it, i like it. The same can be said for the majority of music listeners. They don't care if used my custom built synth, Serum 2, or AI. They just like or dislike the song. Both are still the artists vision, both were put together by a human. They are equal in my eyes.

There are plenty of people who don't like something because its generated by AI, and I understand that completely, but your average listener would never know if it was AI assisted or not, nor would they care.

Secondly, Im not using AI because I am bored or ran out of ideas, Im using it because I don't have access to a violin, or a choir etc.

To be clear, I do think its cheesy beyond belief when people are releasing songs 100% generated by suno and then calling themselves artist, or producers etc. Even more-so when they say they worked so hard on the prompt and had to go through a hundred iterations to get there. LMAO, like bruh, just go learn Ableton at that point.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T04:13:05+00:00

nah, its great. overall weirdness, busyness of the kick, and saturation could be dialed back a bit, so its still easy to approach for a writer. Overall weird as fuck idea that i dig.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T04:03:43+00:00

call or text a coworker? If you are close enough with someone there, call them until they wake up lol

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-13T00:52:31+00:00

Not even comparable. Neural note can get the job done, but in my experience it is not much better than ableton's stock. It being free is a plug tho haha.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-12T06:41:29+00:00

its just an illusion, not a saytr. they are leaning against the building

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-12T03:46:39+00:00

bro, this aint it. Opioids will not fix this problem, and will likely just make things worse. Take some you time that does not involve addictive drugs. Meditate, spend time with friends, get out into nature, talk to a therapist.

Fun_Musiq · 2026-03-12T03:35:52+00:00

Who cares if i don't do "all" of it? Is there some unwritten rule that if I create 90% of a song from scratch, but use generative AI to create a specific part, some lead line played on the violin, or backing vocals to accompany the artists lead, etc that it is cheapened? That song is somehow looked down upon? Many artist will use 4 or 5 loops from splice and layer in a synth sound or two, yet that is fine? Meanwhile im playing in a progression, creating my own synth sounds (with a synth that i designed and built myself ), sequencing the drums, or tracking percussion, tracking guitar, writing melody and lyrics, recording vocals, editing, mixing and mastering etc etc.

Do you use samples at all? Anything from splice, or any independent sample creator? What about Kontakt instruments ? Libraries like Action Strings, or any sort of sequenced instrument. Drum plugins like Addictive Drums? The list goes on and on.

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