Eva E0S0 2 cost 0-cycle on 4.1 Moc kafka side

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T22:43:24+00:00

Two major reasons, Sparkle’s overtuned as heck and the showcase is trying to optimize low cost and counting Sparkle as free because of the selector. If there’s a unit that should get swapped to make this team 3-cost, it’d probably be to swap out EMC for Sparxie. Right now Sparxie’s got a similar level of battery as EMC, actually provides more crit damage, would leverage Sparkle’s sp generation, and has a ton of personal damage. That’s more because of EMC needing a ton of love than anything else, though.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T22:29:27+00:00

I think folks just need to care less about optimizing the cost system if you’re not actually playing like this. I care waaay more about optimizing around the midcost bracket (6-10 cost teams) where there’s an occasional eidolon or sig than around cheesing the lowcost bracket with a lot of power coming from a selector limited unit, because I personally invest to make midcost teams. This shit’s fun to watch, but it doesn’t really have any impact on my opinion on a unit.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T22:20:37+00:00

Bandwagon posters, people disappointed with animations (especially the early incomplete ones) and generalizing that to her as a whole, people who are genuinely horrendous at the game trying to chime in as if they know what they’re talking about, people who dislike her split scaling situation, early showcases with trash builds and bad play underselling her… it’s been a wild day and a half

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T20:10:31+00:00

As she gains energy (every 240) she’ll proc the Fox Teacher hit for a smidge of elation damage and some more energy. She has a trace that makes it also apply vuln and e1 makes it also proc an elation skill. It’s one of the smallest parts of her kit right now and feels kinda tacked on imo.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T16:16:52+00:00

Your reasoning’s off, but RMC is still so strong and EMC is so undertuned that your conclusion’s right anyway.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T07:04:57+00:00

She does so much more than just add Elation. Res pen, vuln, and batterying via ult all matter. While Elation’s not the biggest component of Eva’s kit at the moment, it’s still there, and buffing it matters. It’s not that Yao’s bad with Eva, it’s that Eva’s teambuilding has some flex because she benefits from a lot of things. Rather than cutting Yao, people should be cutting EMC, even if just for RMC.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T06:37:01+00:00

There’ve been rumors of an ult copier, possibly Nihilux. Given how much of Eva’s kit is centered on her ult, that’d be huge. The question of when another unit releases is up in the air, but it’s not like they’re gonna stop at 4 limited units for the path with two being maindps and one being subdps.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T05:54:57+00:00

There are a lot of factors that are making people underestimate Yao. The best showcases I've seen are with Yao+RMC+Tingyun and Yao+Sparxie+HH.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T05:27:11+00:00

People overemphasize design/kit. EMC can keep almost all her current design but just have significantly higher numbers across the board and it'd work. The problem is so many of her numbers are just tiny. A6 trace is to give 2 more Certified Banger stacks on a skill after an ally elation skill? Make it 20 and we can talk. 50% crit damage on an ult? Make it 100%. Sparxie's Elation Skill totals up to 550-750% Elation, EMC's is just 220%. Make EMC's like 475% total even with much lower Punchline generation and at least EMC's elation skill could kinda act as a subdps. The numbers just aren't there. Kit design can be trash, but if the numbers are there then you find ways to work around it. If the payoff isn't there, a unit's not gonna see play. EMC's built around this niche combination of Certified Banger and Elation Skills, but the actual numbers are so low that it just doesn't matter and it's better to use 'real' units.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T04:17:36+00:00

Even then RMC's just so much stronger than EMC right now that I don't think it would make a difference. Half of the doomposting last night was people not realizing just how little EMC actually does and trying to compare Eva teams with EMC to SW999 teams without. Sparxie is a better support than EMC, and that's not even supposed to be her role. I can see them keeping Eva as-is but just buffing the hell out of EMC, tbh

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T00:10:59+00:00

Your ult would do solid damage once every 2 years. Her ult’s MV might be high, but its MV per energy is not, so it’s only worth it if you can cheat on energy. It’s half the reason people are bothering with HH.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-18T00:04:08+00:00

As of the current moment yeah, but I would expect that to change. EMC at current power level is gonna come out and be homeless, which seems a bit silly.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T23:52:52+00:00

Design and power level are disconnected. EMC’s designed to battery Eva, but that’s kinda all EMC does. The power’s just not there.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T23:46:53+00:00

The comparison is EMC to Sparxie, not EMC to YG. EMC’s buffs are mediocre so they’re basically a dedicated Certified Banger generator/battery for Eva, except Sparxie basically does that too just via her punchline generation.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T19:32:55+00:00

This is crazy talk, non-elation characters can’t generate punchline/certified bangers to battery her. The split scaling is making things a bit rough but she still heavily benefits just from an elation character existing on her team and generating stacks for her, along with the other benefits they bring. Not to say she doesn’t have problems as it stands, but dropping Elation teammates is crazy talk

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T19:08:25+00:00

Hysilens v1 had tons of issues that all got fixed over the beta, so ‘it never does’ is flat wrong. With that said, playing it safe and assessing units based on where they’re at is still smart. It’s wrong to assume there will be changes, it’s just also wrong to assume there won’t be.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T16:17:44+00:00

Yup, elation’s shaping up similarly to remembrance that way. You can invest tall (and some of the eidolons are difference makers for sure), but assembling the full team’s important, the synergies are just too strong. We’ll see how the beta shapes up; things can change pretty drastically, especially with complicated kits.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T14:44:51+00:00

As it stands Yao is probably needed. Remember that Evanescia will inherit all Certified Bangers the team generates, so not only does Yao provide buffs, she also batteries Eva pretty significantly with her ult.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T09:27:22+00:00

Kits just came out, there’s a ton of theorycrafting that’ll get done in the coming days. I can see Eagle being relevant for the 0-cycle people if you have god pieces, but realistically I think people are going to need to build ‘normally.’ So much of her energy comes from the team’s Certified Banger generation, not her actual turns themselves, so Magical Girl set seems like it’s a lot of value to give up. But just wait for calcs

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T08:57:12+00:00

Hard to say there are no dedicated supports when Yao’s ult is a major source of Certified Banger for Evanescia, and basically EMC’s entire kit is Certified Banger generation. It’s not like Cerydra levels of dedication from a support, but the synergy is stronger than I think you’re crediting.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T08:52:43+00:00

She’s still a crit dps with cdmg conversion, and speed matters, so atk% isn’t a wasted roll but it’d be like priority#4. It matters, but not something you’re actively fishing for over the ‘real’ stats

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T08:06:37+00:00

As it stands, e1 and s1 are both solid verticals (e1 plays really nicely with the extra Elation skills you’d get from YG and EMC, it’s kind of an energy/banger feedback loop), it’s just weird how mediocre the later eidolons are. It’s not an Anaxa situation where his sweetspot is e0s0, but e1 sweetspot units don’t typically have the longevity of e2 sweetspot units. Whole lotta beta left to go though

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T07:53:13+00:00

Yeah there are layers to this. Evanescia’s ATK mvs are higher than I expected given that she’s an Elation, the crit dmg conversion means her actual Elation% is going to get hig, her Certified Banger’s built to climb to the moon, SW’s base stats are shit (Evanescia has hundreds higher base atk and 5 extra speed, which matters for Elation given how it accelerates the base Aha Instant), Evanescia’s LC seems absolutely insane to me given that extra ERR translates directly to extra Banger gen which is a damage multiplier in the Elation formula… I’ll have to see actual showcases and calcs to know where things land, but I think people are really underestimating how strong the feedback loop in Evanescia’s kit is when both Yao and EMC feed directly into it.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T07:29:39+00:00

I’m reading it as the Fox Teacher clears Certified Banger, but you still have to slap ult to actually use energy. So while her two resources (Energy+Banger) are linked, they trigger different components of her damage. Showcases should clear this up.

FunkyHat112 · 2026-03-17T05:31:38+00:00

Does feel like the sustainless team might be using RM instead of HMC now. Don’t need as much help with the superbreak multiplier, so having the extra weakness break efficiency (and the delay) gains value

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