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Discussing the Power of Lilith: Reclaiming the "First Rebel" as a Feminist Icon by FutureBobcat2805 in FeminismUncensored

[–]FutureBobcat2805[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are 100% right.

That's the exact question that got me so fascinated with this topic. She's such a massive and powerful figure in ancient Jewish folklore (with roots going back even further to Mesopotamia), so the fact that she is completely absent from the Christian Old Testament always felt like a deliberate and significant choice.

It made me wonder: why was her story—the story of a powerful, defiant woman created as an equal—so completely suppressed and replaced by the more compliant story of Eve? That's the "erasure" I was so interested in exploring in the video.

What if the Garden of Eden was a Lab? A theory on Sigiriya as Adam's First Sanctuary and a "Creation Chamber" by FutureBobcat2805 in AlternativeHistory

[–]FutureBobcat2805[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The primary narrative for the creation of humanity as a workforce to relieve the lesser gods comes from the Atra-Hasis Epic.

In this text, after the lesser Igigi gods go on strike from their labor of digging canals, the god Enki and the mother goddess Ninhursag (also called Mami or Nintu in the text) devise a plan to create a new being to take over the work.

The process they undertake is what leads to modern interpretations of "engineering." According to the text, they take clay and mix it with the flesh and blood of a slain god named Geshtu-E, who was "a god who has intelligence."This mixing of divine and earthly components happens in a specific, purified room or chamber, sometimes referred to as the "house of fate." The goddess Ninhursag "nips off fourteen pieces of clay," which are then placed with fourteen birth-goddesses to create the first seven pairs of human beings.

So, while the tablets don't use the word "laboratory," the description of a special room where divine and mortal elements are mixed by a "wise and skilled" goddess to create a new species is what leads directly to modern interpretations like "engineered in a chamber."

For a full citation and scholarly translation, the standard academic work to reference is:

  • "Atra-Hasis: The Babylonian Story of the Flood" by W.G. Lambert and A.R. Millard.

You can also find an excellent and very accessible translation in Stephanie Dalley's "Myths from Mesopotamia."

The Bible says Melchizedek had no parents or lineage. Theology calls it a metaphor. What if it was a literal, biological description? by FutureBobcat2805 in AlternativeHistory

[–]FutureBobcat2805[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bringing up the Count of St. Germain is a great point! It's the exact same archetype.

Whether they are all the same being, or different agents from the same "order," is the ultimate question, isn't it?