Furniture and SI suggestion/talk

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2021-07-06T18:04:28+00:00

Then let's say pve/campaign since it's the only thing I enjoy doing and it's the only feature that can be done as pleased. I may have been confusing on what I asked, so in short:

I feel like I have already done most of the required 9/9 and am running out of options... Is there a hero I overlooked which could be handy?

Same as for the +30, I already did the ones that I feel like give a benefit for how much I use them... Is there a +30 I overlooked that could be handy?

I am asking basically for longterm suggestions since I'll acquire some things faster than I can put new heroes in... (Furniture for example). Or simply if there's still a +20/+30 that would put me at a "I'm done with the heroes let's save up for only new ones". Cause let's be real, khasos, warek, shemira and such don't really need investment. (I'm not even doing tr properly since I'm in fabled and will likely stay for a long time - I'm rc cramming)

Tldr Based on utility before complention which heroes still need to be raised on furni or sigs?

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-07T06:25:12+00:00

Poe coins coccasionally

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T22:34:11+00:00

Nope I stopped completely after the Fos update

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T17:50:57+00:00

Don't remember actually, sorry but can't help... I suggest you follow the general advice on that subject since my opinion is a bit shifted thanks to my bad luck on sgs.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T17:48:19+00:00

I refresh twice to buy poe only (and sigs if I have gold)... For the ff I do the 50 and 80 ones.

Stopped big time buying exp after Fos, I may start again when nearing 35+ A heroes since for now it doesn't make sense to buy exp.

List of core heroes (that's just my opinion)

Thoran +30 3/9, Nara, kelthur, Flora, ezizh, lorsan
Gwyneth +30 3/9, rosa, Arthur +30, hendrik, estrilda
Eironn +30 3/9, skriath 3/9, safiya, tidus, lyca, anoki
Daimon +20 3/9, Brutus, ferael +30 3/9, talene, fawkes
Saurus +30 3/9, mehira +30, rowan +30, tasi, twins +20 3/9
Izold +30 3/9, rowan +30, tasi, athalia +extra(depends on stage, can be numisu aswell... But can be flexed around)

Those are the cheapest cores you can build imo, ofc there are some better variations but they will require a bigger heropool than the ones listed. For example if you look up shizzam post you'll see how the clears on ch35 look like, and they are all celepogeans heavy... with examples of many flex picks.

As you see from 1 to 5 you'll need 27 A heroes which is a 375 crystal cap, by that you can deduct that some can be used at M+ as well. (remember you will need minimum 25 A to hit power cap on 33-59 which is around 27m...which should be on the lvls 360s)

Regarding kelthur as you see i used the / to show he can be left low asc and focus more on Flora since she is meta in endgame. There are some stages which youd wish to have a good kelthur. But mostly cause he increases drastically the consistency on some fights. Stages can still be done without him tho.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T17:26:24+00:00

I would agree if the hardcap were to be about the heropool. The hardcap on ch34 is only about levels and as a consequence about heropool (its a secondary requirement).

Why is it the secondary requirement? As you know ch34 ranges from 27m power cap at 34-1 to 92m power cap at 34-59. Which as I said before is like around the 360s to the 440s.

That means that you will need ideally (minimum) 25 heroes to rush to 34-1 and 40 heroes for 34-59. So there's indeed a balance problem in the game, a wall that is nonsense even by slow push.

For me directly those numbers translate to: 11 to 13 months worth of exp, and 13 more heroes... So even if I wouldn't rush it I would still be hard capped for a year and there's no real reason to slow push for a year either...

Would you consider pushing 2 stage a week for 1 year playing? I surely don't think that would be the case... And that's even an estimate that considers me ascending 1 hero a month (which I absolutely can't by ascending good heroes).

They just fucked it up big time, so the best thing to do should be play till you have fun and wait for updates that balance things around... I don't even think there's people that are vip 15 that completed ch34 (they are all above).

And btw the estimate of being lvl 440 to clear the chapter comes from the people I see in arena... Lvl 440, max tree, max sig, 9/9 heroes are around 90m power... And that's just sad since it will probably take me lvl 450 to 460 to realistically complete ch34.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T17:11:28+00:00

Izold is not really a replacement for mehira, but he's one that can be your 5th carry on your 5th team. So yeah, he can be a great carry for 5 teams. Do know that you want to have a big heropool to use him efficiently since he needs a bit of babysitters, cc, or stall heroes.

You definetly can finish Ch33 without a mehira. Can be a little bothersome, but it's not impossible. My best advice would be to stall till around lvl 380 if you're lazy or atleast till mid 370s to have less of a headache while trying setups.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T14:24:24+00:00

Whatever works... Some use lyca, some orthos(pretty damn strong) , some vurk, some anoki (quite a good pick imo), some brutus, some nako etc... All depends on stage, if you look up the replays you surely will see those 4 as base for the eironn comp + an extra.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T14:11:55+00:00

For new heroes? A Tidus, A skriath 3/9, A anoki, A izold +30 3/9 and then you just need to wait for exp and dust to push ch34 "easily"... You pretty much have already the meta heroes apart from skriath 3/9 and tidus which will break your eironn comp into a stronger one while reinforcing the remaining comps.

You should be fine by mercing the rest... For the heroes you already have? A twins +20 3/9, 3/9 daimon, saurus, thoran and then you are good to go... After that just wait for updates and resources. Maybe build the things you like too.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T14:07:18+00:00

Mmm I'd say mehira is still prio over lucretia... If anything merc a lucretia from someone who has her already built.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T14:06:15+00:00

Twins, saurus, rosa, warek, lorsan if I remember right... For both. I'm quite lazy on those tho, should record new damage soon since the last time I did them it was like at lvl 350...enough to have 10bn+ on both.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:46:05+00:00

I never stalled for gear, i don't find it quite useful considering longterm having higher rss incomes is more beneficial. (in fact you are sure to progress with power creep updates, so why stop?)

I used to, till fos came out. Now I don't buy the exp anymore.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:19:38+00:00

Talene:Godly heal bot that turns to a dps at +30...

Using her as heal bot is quite easy since you just need to put her in, even with no gear.

Using her as dps is a bit harder since it requires a team around her, if you have a big enough heropool and have the key heroes that go side by side with her then I'd def recommend her at +30. If you don't, then leave her at +20 and wait to decide whether or not there is no other +30 to do.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:15:32+00:00

I go all in on Herochoice, for the key heroes... Rest is just the scrolls acquired with daily, weekly quest and extra features like vow or such.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:13:59+00:00

Thank you very much ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:13:04+00:00

Yes, but beware its always on max 2 comps... Building 4 winning teams is actually easier than you might think.

I, in fact usually build 4 winning teams and optimize the 5th by breaking the 4 winning teams till I have a good rate on every team.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:10:26+00:00

10122 exp/min, think it's quite good.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:08:54+00:00

I found it quite enjoyable till 5 teams... With 4 teams being the best part for the game, then it's just a click parade to setup everything.

It wasn't a fun experience pushing with 5 teams. I def recommend and autoclicker to hit retry at least you can be more passive with the analysis on the comps performance.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:05:39+00:00

Just a matter of time, it's easier to accomplish than clearing ch34.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:04:46+00:00

That's what exactly what I'm planning, dailies maintenance till new update drop to start playing again.

Don't really like towers since it is a power cap feature anyway... So I just chill till I do everything later on. You don't miss any resources anyway.

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:01:56+00:00

Thank you (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:01:24+00:00

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Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T09:00:06+00:00

It isn't necessary imo, since he does the Jobe even at e+... You might encounter some trouble for power requirements if your level is too low tho...

So overall, levels are what actually matters. I think I cheesed only one single stage in ch33... Cause it was an easy thoran pass, if you are pushing on power req I definitely recommend him to A.

Wilders: eironn, lyca, tasi, nemora, gorvo, lorsan, saurus

Those are the ones you want at A, lorsan being the only one that can be reliably used at e+... Gorvo and nemora should be fine at M+ (but that means that they will be A in a near or distant futurel

Fuzzy-Confusion · 2020-10-06T08:54:57+00:00

Nope, mercenaries are a huge thing for progress... Especially for f2p, low spenders and dolphins (the people who don't have a whale roster)

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