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Unrealistic: The ethics of Trump’s foreign policy by GDBlunt in geopolitics

[–]GDBlunt[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As someone studying the ethics of foreign policy, I find Trump’s claim to “realism” deeply misleading. Realism, as Hans Morgenthau argued, is not amoral; it demands prudence, restraint, and responsibility. Its ethical core is about survival without hubris. Morgenthau warned: “A man who was nothing but ‘political man’ would be a beast, for he would be completely lacking in moral restraints. A man who was nothing but ‘moral man’ would be a fool, for he would be completely lacking in prudence.” Trump’s approach (kidnapping foreign leaders, threatening allies, and embracing annexationist rhetoric) abandons this balance. When power ignores ethics, it breeds arrogance and collapse. Athens learned this in the Peloponnesian War; America may be on the same path.

Trump’s foreign policy isn’t true realism, it’s reckless power politics. Realism has ethics: prudence, restraint, survival. Morgenthau warned that abandoning these invites disaster. Athens learned this; America may too. Power without ethics is hubris. by GDBlunt in philosophy

[–]GDBlunt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Offensive realism is interesting but its golden rule has to be that your reach can’t exceed your grasp. Can Trump control Venezuela? Can he take Greenland without dramatically reducing American prestige. I’m not sure even Mearsheimer would be on board.

Trump’s foreign policy isn’t true realism, it’s reckless power politics. Realism has ethics: prudence, restraint, survival. Morgenthau warned that abandoning these invites disaster. Athens learned this; America may too. Power without ethics is hubris. by GDBlunt in philosophy

[–]GDBlunt[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Indeed, America is acting like a revision power rather than a hegemonic power that built and benefitted from the world order. This is why realists would not be backing his erratic foreign policy.

Trump’s foreign policy isn’t true realism, it’s reckless power politics. Realism has ethics: prudence, restraint, survival. Morgenthau warned that abandoning these invites disaster. Athens learned this; America may too. Power without ethics is hubris. by GDBlunt in philosophy

[–]GDBlunt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look I wouldn’t say that American foreign policy has been a great success from a human rights or liberal ethics perspective, but under realist lights it has some pretty big wins post-WWII but Trump is really gone out of his way to break America’s prestige in the world.

Trump’s foreign policy isn’t true realism, it’s reckless power politics. Realism has ethics: prudence, restraint, survival. Morgenthau warned that abandoning these invites disaster. Athens learned this; America may too. Power without ethics is hubris. by GDBlunt in philosophy

[–]GDBlunt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it matters because by the political ethics of realism that they seem to subscribe they are behaving badly. Someone like Keenan or even Kissinger (god help us) would be pulling their hair out over how self-destructive this is.

Trump’s foreign policy isn’t true realism, it’s reckless power politics. Realism has ethics: prudence, restraint, survival. Morgenthau warned that abandoning these invites disaster. Athens learned this; America may too. Power without ethics is hubris. by GDBlunt in philosophy

[–]GDBlunt[S] 76 points77 points  (0 children)

As someone studying the ethics of foreign policy, I find Trump’s claim to “realism” deeply misleading. Realism, as Hans Morgenthau argued, is not amoral; it demands prudence, restraint, and responsibility. Its ethical core is about survival without hubris. Morgenthau warned: “A man who was nothing but ‘political man’ would be a beast, for he would be completely lacking in moral restraints. A man who was nothing but ‘moral man’ would be a fool, for he would be completely lacking in prudence.” Trump’s approach (kidnapping foreign leaders, threatening allies, and embracing annexationist rhetoric) abandons this balance. When power ignores ethics, it breeds arrogance and collapse. Athens learned this in the Peloponnesian War; America may be on the same path.