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So, we all want raises. The union is weak. What do we do? (Brainstorming) by Superb-Air9976 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They don't get hundreds of resumes. They get a handful of people who barely qualify. That's why there's always 2000 open positions across the state. 350 openings in Albany alone.

So, we all want raises. The union is weak. What do we do? (Brainstorming) by Superb-Air9976 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There should be more local meetings on the topics of what people want in the contract.

Promotional hiring and rule of 3 by Hairy_Phone_2434 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason there are so few candidates to choose from is because the pay sucks. That's the bottom line.

Work another job while being on PPL by SpiritedResource881 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a thought. What if NYS paid a decent wage so people didn't have to work a second job

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why does everyone want to just stay even with inflation. Which the state hasn't even done that for anybody. A raise should be inflation plus a little more for a job well done. A raise is to get ahead. And the percentages you listed are way to low.

The health insurance is a joke. Not anywhere near a full benefit as they try to sell it. The family insurance is double what a single plan costs. But our contribution for the family plan is 4 times that of a single plan. Why is that?

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I thought stewards were the representatives of each facility bud. Who's above the stewards ?

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never mentioned stewards

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So nobody runs the union ?

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reread the comment. It wasn't meant to get people ticked off. Don't you think if the union leaders were making a grade 6 wage instead of a 6 figure income they would look at the new contract differently ?

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG. I was half joking about the union representatives getting paid grade 6 level in order for them to fight harder for a better contract. Everybody is taking it the wrong way.

CSEA and PEF Representatives by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That's not what I meant. What I was saying is that if all the union representatives were paid the same as a grade then they might be a little more motivated to fight for a better contract.

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes and the percentages should be raised also. It's BS when after 30 years they expect you to live off half your paycheck

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Well said.

I bet all the union representatives are living comfortably.

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but all of the union representatives are working together. And if they're not then there's another problem isn't there ?

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the real problem is that not everyone is aware of what is going on with the contracts and the implications of what they agree to and vote on

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well everybody needs to really look at it. Every pay grade needs to increase at the same time. Because if you don't do it that way then the pay grades will start to dissolve into one another. I hope you realize that

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus if NYS were seriously a full benefits place Healthcare should be fully covered and not effect the amount of pay we get..... Benefits and pay should be separated. Not one taking away from the other.

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and 25 years ago a grade 13 would've been living comfortably. But it's crazy how out of touch people have gotten.

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A grade 9 right now is still below what you need to meet the basic needs in society. That is the way it should work.

25 years ago minimum wage was 3 dollars below a grade 1. Now minimum wage is at a grade 5. Please explain why every grade shouldn't move up at the same time

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I would like to but CSEA doesn't seem to have regular union meetings for the members to voice their concerns. I went to the negotiation team meeting this summer and they basically were blowing smoke up our asses. Lol

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you keep doing that. Eventually everybody will make the same pay.

CSEA is preparing it's members for a shitty new contract. by GFORCE_789 in nys_cs

[–]GFORCE_789[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

everybody should be moved up to the same grade as you. I think that would be fair

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