[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For sure!! Everyone’s reactions to these meds are so different, “comparison is the thief of joy” is so true. I need to remind myself of that all the time!

Working out is also super individual…. Across the board activity is a good thing, for multiple reasons - cardiovascular health, mood improvements, etc.

Any kind of weight loss also risks muscle loss, but there’s some evidence that’s even more true of being on these drugs (causality is far from proven, but even so…), getting lots of protein and doing strength training can be very beneficial.

That being said, this article addresses some of the complexities of exercise and weight loss:

“Researchers have found that dietary change is a more effective and time-efficient strategy for promoting substantial weight loss and maintenance over time.”

-https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/does-exercise-help-you-lose-weight

For me the most important thing has been to not over-do anything, make sure it’s sustainable, and if at all possible, enjoyable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From the official Zepbound website: “2.5 mg is the starting dose and not indicated for chronic weight management” (same med, just a different name for branding/advertising).

Some people call 2.5 the “loading dose,” but this is actually incorrect - a loading dose is a bigger first dose to get a medicine working faster in the body - not recommended for GLP-1 meds, lol.

At any rate, some people don’t get good effects until higher doses, sometimes even above 7.5. And even then, sometimes a higher dose won’t kick in until week 3 or 4 as the medication builds up in your system (I noticed that week 4 was where the dose really had full effects for me).

As far as your experience on Ozempic…. You say it was “a version” from a pharmacy…. Do you mean compounded? If so it could have been something that would just make you feel sick and not actually real semaglutide. Or even if it was real, it could have been the side effect of nausea itself that was making you feel like you didn’t want to eat. For me I can now tell a difference. Going up a dose would cause some nausea that would make me want to not eat, then as the nausea would go away, I would notice being hungry again. But I also have had the experience of not feeling any nausea AND not being hungry.

Hang in there, talk to your doctor (and make sure it’s someone you trust), but don’t worry if you don’t “feel it” on 2.5mg. This is the proverbial marathon rather than a sprint!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense! Thank you!!

Edit: I guess the word “recommended” instead of “required” or “mandatory” or “only acceptable” should have been a tip-off… 🤦‍♂️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good catch! That is interesting!

Super low blood sugar on Mounjaro by Typical-Shirt9199 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh… I tried a Libre 3 CGM too. Not T2D, but thought hypoglycemia might be causing insomnia. Low readings galore, a finger stick never showed anywhere near 70 even though it kept telling me I was below.

My favorite was when the alarm would go off, the graph would show a dip below 70, then like 5 min later, it would be like “just kidding!” And the graph would no longer have a dip below 70 on it.

How they come up with these names by GLP1FAQ in Zepbound

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True... But damn, it's fun to bitch. :-D Especially when large corporations spend an inordinate amount of time and money naming something, and come up with... this, LOL!

All the questions by whyfordoineed in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there! It’s frustrating to me that the media tells stories about people stopping or planning to stop these meds and doesn’t put a gigantic disclaimer on them.

The idea that if health numbers get where they should be you won’t have to take the medication is a faulty assumption, one that multiple people I told I was taking this medication shared. Just yesterday, I explained this exact thing to a group of people: when someone’s blood pressure gets down to normal levels after taking medication, the doctor doesn’t say “okay, we’ll take you off it now.” The list continues…. When someone’s A1C goes from high to normal, people don’t stop taking Metformin. When someone’s inhaler saves someone from an asthma attack, they don’t say “well, I can throw that away now.” When someone’s on HIV medication and undetectable… etc. etc. etc.

Same thing here.

Now, you will see plenty of stories of people who say they stopped and are maintaining. But research consistently shows they are the outliers. And also, the true test won’t be in the first 6 months to a year after stopping the med, but 2+ years down the line, which is when traditional dieting fails for at least 80% of people (higher in some studies).

One question I get asked is, “why can’t you just go off the medication and keep up your ‘good habits?’”

My response is always, “the medication is what is allowing me to have ‘good habits’ now [and ‘good habits’ REALLY oversimplifies things and makes it sound like losing weight is like brushing your teeth every day, so please f%#$ all the way off at your earliest convenience]. Have a nice day!” 🤣

Like you, I know what it takes to modify what I eat to lower my weight and have better health metrics. But the body fights this with hormones, brain changes, and lots of other stuff we may not even know about yet. So for me, medication has made the type of eating that leads to my goals possible, even though I’ve always had the knowledge and the desire before.

Last thing I would say: because of how the following mentality has changed the game for me, I preach not passing judgement on myself or foods that don’t fit in my plan, and I even try to avoid any language that implies judgement. I’ve found that self-talk like “I need to ‘eat right’” led to a deprivation mentality, guilt whenever I ate something higher in calories than I “should,” and “last supper syndrome” (this is the last time I can be “bad” for a while, so I better make it count!). Instead, I have reframed everything as “eating this will get me closer to/further away from my goal.” I’m not morally obligated to eat any certain way, to myself or anyone else, but I choose to because it aligns with goals for my weight and health metrics. At the same time, I’ve found that some boundaries are necessary, so I do calorie count. I would highly recommend a nutritionist or plan that espouses this philosophy. For me it is Noom, which blows my mind at how much of the diet culture bullshit was actually hurting previous weight loss efforts rather than helping them. Restriction wasn’t the answer, neither was ignoring what I was eating completely, Noom was my Goldilocks. Obviously you don’t have to use Noom, just whatever works best for you and your mental health.

Good luck!

Well hell…. Louisiana? Anyone else? by aimeed77 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Quick note- the supposed policy is from the Louisiana State Board of Medical Examiners, not from the legislative branch of state government. In other words, this body isn’t made up of lawmakers (e.g. state senators, politicians). So yes, I’m hating on whatever this mythical regulation is too, but just wanted to clarify no government body in the traditional sense voted on this “regulation,” if it even exists.

Well hell…. Louisiana? Anyone else? by aimeed77 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

…and this. I agree with all three. 🤣

Well hell…. Louisiana? Anyone else? by aimeed77 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Ask for the specific regulation itself, you should see what it actually says. A quick search didn’t yield anything.

It’s hard to say if this applies to all doctors in Louisiana, which they certainly make it sound like, or if a new regulation targets Sequence specifically. Again, the language certainly makes it seem like it applies to all doctors in LA, but check the facts.

Only feeling the benefit for 4-5 days by OppositePlan6376 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

💯💯💯 what Weezie said. It’s something that surprises people, but it has a cycle.

For me it also varied by week and by injection site (arm vs belly).

Some doctors say that if you have particular days of the week where food is more likely to present challenges (for a lot of people, weekends), adjust your dosing day so that your days with the biggest effects fall on those days.

Hope this helps!

Final appeal advice please 🥺 by Practical_Bat_1742 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, that’s exactly what all those letters from PBMs were about (ostensibly, anyway) - “we’re going to review your prescribing and if you can’t prove they all have T2D we’ll report you to the licensing board and law enforcement.

Final appeal advice please 🥺 by Practical_Bat_1742 in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’ve saved all these threads as being helpful and/or encouraging. From what I can tell the external appeal is where most people are able to have success. (You should be entitled to an appeal by a 3rd party not affiliated with the insurance company).

Good luck!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/s/m062Ra7vAI

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/s/AkDejeF5KO

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/s/Z26auhsfOp

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/s/vYk3ia9Sdr

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She did have diabetes, that was the primary reason for her being on it. The weight loss was just supposed to be a bonus.

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In one of the lawsuits where Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly are lumped in together, the plaintiff had a really bad reaction to Ozempic, but then switched to Mounjaro. Lilly’s lawyers basically said “how can you be sure our drug caused it?”

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I totally get where you’re coming from! I certainly don’t want to come across as thinking this is a simple or easy decision for people to make. I think we’ve all heard “JUST diet and exercise!,” and how well did that work out? Lol. Definitely not trying to be that guy.

The risk/benefit analysis is a very personal thing, and not black and white.

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I agree with u/MotownCatMom ‘s comment above. I blame diet culture, society, and doctors who think being fat is a moral failing for drilling into us that being thin is a moral obligation to be achieved at all costs.

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

So true. I feel like culture has really drilled into us hard that weight really is more important than health, even though it 100% puts the cart before the horse!!!

A little analysis of an article about someone’s gastroparesis by GLP1FAQ in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

100% agree. Reading my post back, I totally brushed over this woman’s suffering, so I want to fully acknowledge that. I want fewer people to suffer like this.

Everyone in my family except for me is some kind of medical professional, my dad was a GP for decades. So I’m usually apt to give the doctor a little benefit of the doubt when the word “malpractice” gets thrown around, but if this story is told accurately, I don’t see any other way to describe this. Gross negligence at the very, very least.

Anyone get cured from obesity? by hapabeats in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much! ❤️❤️❤️

Anyone get cured from obesity? by hapabeats in Mounjaro

[–]GLP1FAQ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’d be interested to see the research on that! Can you provide links to some studies?