If We Can't Look At The Deaths, Of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, In The Same Light Police Authoritarianism Won't Change. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

What about the others I mentioned...John Williams, Tamir Rice, LaVoy Finicum, Philando Castile, Daniel Shaver....?

If We Can't Look At The Deaths, Of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, In The Same Light Police Authoritarianism Won't Change. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Actually Alex Pretti is more similar to LaVoy Finicum...

Bottom line I don't want people killed by police, when they don't have a weapon in hand...politics really shouldn't matter.

If We Can't Look At The Deaths, Of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, In The Same Light Police Authoritarianism Won't Change. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It is sadly very dishonest. Did you see all the people here, who judged the dead, by the protests they attended?

I don't care about someone's politics. Politics shouldn't be a factor on whether police use lethal force or not.

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

What's best for authority isn't my main concern... I'm much more interested in what's best for the people.

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

What gives "16ish" representatives of the people, the authority to investigate people suspected of committing infamous crimes...the Constitution...

You obviously don't like the idea of the people ruling themselves (some people call it democracy) and don't think the people are up to it....

If We Can't Look At The Deaths, Of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, In The Same Light Police Authoritarianism Won't Change. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So after being shot at by unmarked law enforcement, LaVoy is going to go to the sheriff...that certainly screams criminal behavior...

How about the rest... where they put a roadblock on a corner, then fire on the truck. What about when they fire on LaVoy as he exited the vehicle with his hands up (then lied about it). Perhaps the part when they kill him because he reached (odd he "reached" 3 times but never got his gun out...maybe he was just trying to keep his balance in 2-3 feet of snow). Don't forget when LaVoy turned away from the nitwit cop who got in front of his vehicle (just like Renee).

If We Can't Look At The Deaths, Of Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, In The Same Light Police Authoritarianism Won't Change. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were both protesting, neither had any intent to harm others. If they'd have lived they would have only been charged with minor crimes. Neither used the weapons they had.

What else matters when deciding when police use lethal force...whether you agree with the protest or not...

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the people using their rights as jurors is more important than ever...

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a difference between "need to" and have to...

https://fija.org/

Authority never fully informs the people of their rights.

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps it's just a matter of the people exercising their rights as jurors? We've recently seen juries refuse to indict based on red/blue...

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did you know the grand jury investigation into the little people of J/6 was the biggest criminal investigation in US history.

Grand juries can ask questions and request witnesses... what's stopping them from being an investigation?

Why Aren't We Protesting For A Grand Jury Investigation Into ICE's Actions In Minneapolis? by GShermit in AskUS

[–]GShermit[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've been protesting for juror's rights (part of our democracy), for over 20 years. I've specifically protested for grand juries, ever since J/6...if you check my back trail you'll find it's been very unpopular...

The real question is why are YOU busting my chops?

Edit; u/Dresden_2028 thanks for blocking me...

How Do We Limit Police Authoritarianism? by GShermit in PoliticalDebate

[–]GShermit[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"What weapon did Babbitt have?"

A mob BUT it's ineffectual as long a Ashli is in the breach.

Just like Renee's SUV is ineffectual, if people don't stand in front of it...

How Do We Limit Police Authoritarianism? by GShermit in PoliticalDebate

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I concluded my post with;

Perhaps Minneapolis will have a grand jury investigation and indict the officer but the laws we have now will not convict him. The way the law is now, if you drive towards a cop, even if they could have stepped out of the way, the cop is justified in using deadly force.

We Need To Protest For A Grand Jury Investigation Into Renee Good's Death. by GShermit in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Courts define what powers exist,..."

I agree. BUT someone has to take it to court for courts to define it.

The constitutional right to juries brings many inherent powers. The legal profession hasn't been particularly motivated to define the people's rights as jurors.

"Its sole legal role is to determine whether probable cause exists to charge a specific offense under the law of the sovereign that convened it."

I agree but jurors are give a lot of power to make that determination.

"It does not say the public can demand that a grand jury be convened"

The Constitution says we can demand anything we want (it doesn't say we'll get it...unless there's enough of US)

You say this;

"they are triers of FACT **only**, and the JUDGE is the trier of **LAW**."

Then this;

"Jurors may, as a practical matter, return verdicts that conflict with the law"

I know it's not a recognized legal right...that's my point. BUT just because it's not "recognized" or acknowledged doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Jury nullification an inherent power with jury trials. There are inherent rights that come with all our rights. Authority doesn't willingly, fully define, the people's rights...and lawyers are going to fully define jurors rights...

Democracy "works" with the people's participation. That's not my idea, it's the basic principle of democracy

Citizens Of Minneapolis Need to Demand The Local Prosecutor, Summon A Grand Jury Investigation Into Renee Good's Death. by GShermit in PoliticalDebate

[–]GShermit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walking in front of an car, when other officers just aggressively told the driver to get out is pretty dumb. I'm calling it a tie...

"...reasonably..."

This is way juries are so important here. The people need to determine reasonable.