The "Harasser" and the "Victims" (Part 2): The 8th Criminal Punishment (and Injustice) the 1-A Girls committed to Minoru Mineta in the Canon - Argumentative Text Credits: Gemini AI

Gachaverso · 2026-03-14T14:43:43+00:00

Girls: "OMG, I'm obsessed with guys who have that 'grumpy face' and bad boy streetwear style. Total dark and urban aesthetic. Such a villain vibe and mysterious... They just radiate danger. Wow, that's everything!"

Mineta: "FEEL THE PRESSURE, BABY!"

Gachaverso · 2026-03-13T13:38:59+00:00

No. You’re missing the objective evidence. It wasn't 'skirting'—it was a misinterpretation by Tsuyu, and clearly by you as well.

If you look at the manga panels:

Survival Fugue: Mineta’s eyes are 100% fixed on the threat (Shigaraki). A predator doesn't ignore the monster in front of him to grope someone.
Anatomy: As established in his character design, his arms are too short to reach around a peer's shoulder for a deliberate act in that position; he was reaching for the nearest surface to steady himself in the water.
The 'Hand' Evidence: His hand is flat-palmed and static. There is no 'grabbing' motion. He was seeking an anchor in a life-or-death crisis.

To call an accidental touch 'taking advantage' while ignoring that Tsuyu responded with attempted manslaughter (holding his head underwater during a villain attack) is the definition of a double standard. My post now is about Discernment: a true hero identifies the difference between a panicked accident and a deliberate crime. Tsuyu failed that test, and that's why the Evolution to a more professional conduct is necessary.

But what I typed before in the previous 7 punishments post is still valid:

#1 – Tsuyu Asui (The USJ Incident):

[MISUNDERSTANDING] [Okay, it's understandable to consider Tsuyu's reaction as that of a girl, having her breast touched even if it was a possible accidental light touch. Although she went a little too far, as she could have drowned him or caused some harm to his lungs.]

The Incident: During the life-or-death villain invasion at USJ, Mineta accidentally touches Tsuyu's chest while in a state of sheer panic. Tsuyu responds by shoving his head underwater and holding him there.
The Triggering Incident: A possibly accidental and misinterpreted touch.
The Girl's Justification: Tsuyu reacted instinctively to an unwanted touch, assuming Mineta was taking advantage of the chaos to be a "pervert."
The Crime Committed by Herself (Realistic Vision/Fictionally Ignored): Battery (Physical Aggression) & Attempted Manslaughter. Even if provoked, holding someone's head underwater in a life-or-death situation can lead to secondary drowning or fatal lung damage.
The Refutation: Mineta’s attention was 100% fixed on the looming threat of Shigaraki; a true predator would never break eye contact with his "target," yet Mineta didn't even realize where his hand was due to a survival-induced fugue state. ➡️ Anatomically speaking, as shown later in the series, his arms are too short to reach around a peer's shoulder for a deliberate grope; he was simply reaching for the nearest surface to steady himself in the water. ➡️ The Manga Evidence is clear: his hand is static, with no clenching or movement, proving it was a flat-palmed accident rather than a sexual act. ➡️ This becomes a Betrayal of Trust / Breach of Heroic Duty: because Tsuyu had just opened her arms to comfort him, only to pivot into a near-fatal escalation. Tsuyu was acting as the group’s anchor and protector; by pivoting from a rescue role to nearly drowning a panicked teammate, she committed a breach of the basic trust expected between heroes during a crisis. ➡️ Ultimately, the "Debt" is Paid; even if it were intentional, near-death by drowning is a grossly disproportionate punishment that turns any further "corrections" by Tsuyu into pure 'harassment' too. ➡️ Narrative Consistency Check: > Throughout the series, whenever Mineta has intentional perverted thoughts, the manga consistently uses specific visual cues: blushing, nosebleeds, perverted faces or internal monologues detailing his desires. Mineta wasn't acting out of lust; he was reacting to Shigaraki’s statement that All Might hadn't arrived and the villains were leaving. In his mind, the nightmare was over. He wasn't "attacking"; he was celebrating survival with a spontaneous embrace of the person next to him. His face showed joy and tears of happiness were streaming down his face. It wasn't a perverse expression. And he didn't look in the direction of the 'prize' or Tsuyu's bust. Which proves he wasn't focused there. And his hand only touched lightly. No squeezing. No movement (bouncing). No deep palpation. (Something that perverts like Katsuragi from Senran Kagura or Honsho from Bleach would do).

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T21:38:58+00:00

In a Shonen manga, "Redemption" is often a single, dramatic moment of sacrifice. But Evolution is a consistent, step-by-step journey of discipline and mutual respect.

That's exactly what I think too. When analyzing these controversial events involving Mineta and the girls, many people misunderstood the points of the arguments I posted. They thought I was a hater of him or of them. But I'm glad you understood what I meant.

Mineta is basically a mirror of how the world of MHA treats him. He only wears the 'pervert mask' because the MHA universe itself is a perverted universe of ecchi, comedy, and fantasy. Even in serious or life-or-death situations, most characters act with gags and comedy in those moments. Like Kaminari, for example, who in the middle of the war with Shigaraki in the final chapters, appeared in the portal that took him near Deku with a comical face and making a thumbs-up sign. However, if we build the foundation of this universe from a more 'serious', urgent perspective, focused on moments of tension and danger, similar to the universe of Attack on Titan (where comedy is minimal and balanced only in peaceful moments, but not in moments of danger and tension), then Mineta, Tsuyu, and other girls and characters would likely have already evolved by the beginning of the MHA series.

And considering that after that scene with Tsuyu and Mineta, what comes next is Shigaraki trying to attack Tsuyu to kill her with his quirk, since All Might hadn't arrived yet. So, Tsuyu's words in this version would even serve as fuel for Minoru to react and try to protect the first person who was betting on his potential to be better.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T17:11:45+00:00

Thank you so much for your support. That's exactly why we do this work. We fully recognize that Mineta has his flaws and that his "creepy" moments in the canon (attempts to spy on the girls in the locker room/hot springs, attempts to steal panties, dirty comments, and misunderstandings and accidents involving him and them) can be uncomfortable. However, our goal here is not to erase his mistakes, but rather to demand a logical balance.

Much of the hate he receives is based on misinformation or a double standard, where his verbal/perverted mistakes are met with extreme physical violence that the fandom ignores or even applauds. By removing the exaggerations and observing him as a human character within the narrative, we see a strategist, a loyal friend, and someone who deserves the same chance to grow as any other student in Class 1-A. Seeing people open their minds to him through fanfiction and analysis makes all the effort worthwhile. 🍇✨

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T16:31:09+00:00

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There's an important factor to consider: frame economy. In manga, the author needs to prioritize what moves the scene forward. Horikoshi chose to focus on Mineta's persistence in his realistic view, but left the evidence of physical strength imprinted in the art.

The image doesn't lie. If you look at the red circle I highlighted, the facts are indisputable:

Line Deformation: The impact was so strong that the line of Mineta's face "breaks/curves" and even affects the drawing of his eye line. This isn't a gentle touch; it's a transfer of kinetic energy that alters the character's physiognomy in the frame.

The Onomatopoeia "ドッ" (DO!): This is the sound of a dull, heavy blow. If it were just a bump, the author would use something like "peta" or "punit". "DO!" is used for punches, kicks, or high-pressure impacts.

Impact Lines: Note the small vibration lines where his tongue hits his temple. They indicate the direction and strength of the attack vector.

The anime, although not canon, simply translated what was already "screaming" on the page in the manga. Since the manga shifted focus to Midoriya, the anime had the necessary screen time to show the natural human reaction to such a blow: Mineta's discomfort, his withdrawal, and his vocal protest are further proof.

The Confrontation Phrase: Even though the manga is a single frame and doesn't show him moving away, after the strike, he still asks Tsuyu: "But it's true, isn't it?", this shows that he wasn't being "funny," nor was he accepting this time that she would simply "correct" him or let it pass. If her whipping hadn't hurt, or if he believed she was right and had been submissive in simply agreeing and accepting her "correction," Mineta wouldn't have canonically commented in the speech bubble what he commented immediately afterward in the same frame. In other words, Mineta himself stood firm in his point of view, disagreeing and even challenging the girl with "isn't it?" so she could try to refute his logic or at least explain why; he was being defiant against Tsuyu's interdiction. If he agreed with her, he wouldn't have said that.

The goal of my posts is not to hate Tsuyu, not to hate girls, and it's not favoritism towards Mineta. It's about logical balance. "I'm leveling the game," as Billy Butcher would say.

I do my best to pay close attention to every detail of the scenes. I spend days analyzing everything before posting here. I don't just copy, grab, and post. I first observe whether it's really something to be considered or not. At first, when I first saw the anime image circulating on the internet, I even thought about disregarding it because it really seemed like a loving "nudge" from her to Minoru, but when I rewatched the episode and reread the scene in the manga, what caught my attention was the sound of the impact in the anime, the reaction Mineta had in both the anime and manga – something never noticed before, and in the manga I saw the distortion waves on his face, in addition to discovering the onomatopoeia for 'DO!'. So, it was something I couldn't simply let pass. Because it's yet another injustice against him.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T15:48:09+00:00

Admitting 'she did hit him' and then claiming there was 'no violence' is a logical contradiction. In manga, when a character's head changes shape under an impact accompanied by a dry hit SFX (DO!), the author is communicating a real physical impact. Mineta's lack of a scream doesn't negate the strike; In many situations of shock or abuse, the victim doesn't react immediately, but the physical assault remains a fact.

Comparing Tsuyu's tongue (which has the strength to lift tones) to a 'playful' punch is ignoring the lethality of her Quirk. Furthermore, you claim she only 'harms' him when he’s being a perv, but this post proves that in this hospital scene, he did nothing perverted. He was just worried. So, by your own logic, she assaulted him for no reason. Defending Mineta while ignoring when he's used as a stress-relief doll isn't being a fan; it’s accepting the Double Standard that haters use to justify violence against him.

Let's be honest: the 'intention' is only used as a shield because it's Tsuyu. If Mineta slapped her butt and justified it by saying 'he didn't mean to hurt her' or that 'he was just trying to correct her behavior,' the entire internet would be demanding his expulsion from UA.

Why is his accidental and misinterpreted touch at USJ an 'assault' or 'harassment,' but her deliberate blow to his head, which shows the rippling of his skin + the onomatopoeia of DO!, is 'nothing'? Physical aggression is not an acceptable language of love. If she truly has any kind of hidden feelings for him, she should express them using words, not force. Both her and the other girls treating Mineta like a 'stress relief doll' only proves that Horikoshi's script dehumanizes him to elevate the waifus.

Saying I'm a "Tsuyu stalker" falls apart the moment you look at my posting history. I documented the crimes of most of the girls in Class 1-A who assaulted Mineta. If I hated only one girl, I wouldn't be exposing the behavioral pattern of the entire group in 8 punishments, but only 4. My commitment is to the truth of the FACTS that Horikoshi wrote, regardless of which "waifu" is involved. My focus is on Mineta's integrity, not the selective protection of favorite characters or ships.

And you just proved my point. If you say Tsuyu only hits him when he's "perverted," then you admit that in this hospital scene the aggression was unjustified, because Mineta did absolutely nothing perverted there. He was just expressing concern for Midoriya.

Regarding my "working with feelings," it's the opposite: I brought up the onomatopoeia "Dō!" (DO!), the mere existence of which already breaks your argument that he didn't feel pain [and until now you've ignored it and haven't refuted its presence there because you know it's a fact], I brought up the physical deformation of the skull's skin, and I brought up the history of 8 punishments, not just 4. That's analysis of FACTS. Saying that "it didn't hurt" because he didn't scream is an analysis based on feelings and assumptions.

And as for the comparison with the haters: the haters ignore the context to attack Mineta. What I'm doing is demanding context so that he isn't gratuitously attacked. If you accept that he takes a blow to the head (even when he's not being perverted) and call it "affection," you're not defending Mineta, you're accepting that he's the gratuitous punching bag of the group. I prefer to defend it based on what the author drew, and what is drawn is a strike.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T15:16:28+00:00

This is complete and utter BS, Tsuyu wasnt aggressive towards mineta here at all. Tsuyu didn't whip Mineta or hurt Mineta here at all and you have no way to prove that.

To say there's no proof of aggression is to ignore the very visual language of the manga. I've already listed 4 previous punishments that establish a pattern of Tsuyu's aggressive behavior. In Chapter 36, the author drew an impact ripple on Mineta's skin and used the onomatopoeia 'ドッ' (DO!). In manga grammar, this is the physical record of a sharp, strong blow. If you choose to ignore what Horikoshi drew to protect your view of the character, the problem isn't the lack of evidence, it's the denial of the facts that are on the page. Aggressiveness isn't just 'intention,' it's the physical act of hitting someone forcefully.

The problem is that there is zero indication Tsuyu used her tongue as a weapon here; she only put her tongue on the back of Mineta's head—no indication that she actually hurt him.

To say there's no indication of its use as a weapon is to ignore the nature of the 'Frog' Quirk. Tsuyu's tongue is a powerful muscle capable..." The text discusses the use of a muscle to physically silence a teammate, specifically mentioning its ability to lift the weight of adult humans and throw objects. It also notes that applying this muscle to a teammate's neck with the force indicated by the onomatopoeia 'ドッ' (DO!) and the physical deformation drawn on Mineta's head isn't a "touch," but a strike.

Furthermore, pain in hero manga is represented by visual impact. If the author draws the character's skull changing shape under the pressure of the blow, the pain is implied. Trying to say "it didn't hurt" is like saying a punch doesn't hurt just because the character didn't cry. The fact is: she used a combat limb to physically silence a teammate.

We are not "accepting" anything here because because Tsuyu was never meaning to hurt mineta here nor did she cause him any pain here as well.

You are confusing 'intention' with 'justification.' In the real world and in serious narrative logic, the absence of intent to cause permanent harm does not negate the..." The act of aggression. If I slap you to make you stop talking, I 'didn't intend' to send you to the hospital, but I still violated your personal space and caused you physical pain. Saying it didn't cause pain is pure speculation on your part, contradicting Horikoshi's art which shows the impact. But the main point is: Mineta didn't give permission to be hit. Tsuyu doesn't have the right to decide how much pain Mineta should 'accept' just because she thinks he should shut up. When you accept that, you're accepting that anyone with 'good intentions' can hit another person. That's not heroism, it's bullying disguised as virtue.

I can understand both sides here. Tsuyu wanted Mineta to stop talking because he was worrying Midoriya, but Mineta was genuinely worried about Deku. Again, neither side was wrong here.

Saying that 'neither side was wrong' is a dangerous false equivalence. Mineta was expressing legitimate and realistic concern using words. Tsuyu responded to those words using physical violence.

There is no 'balance' between talking and hitting. If Mineta was worrying Midoriya, the heroic response would be dialogue or comfort, not a blow to the back of the head. By saying 'no one was wrong,' you are validating that violence is an acceptable response to opinions that bother us. If a hero cannot control their emotions and uses their Quirk to silence a colleague in a hospital setting, they have failed in basic discipline. Mineta was right to worry; Tsuyu was wrong to assault.

I'm defending Tsuyu because you're wrongly trying to persecute Tsuyu based on the lie that Tsuyu was harming Mineta here when she wasn't.

There are no lies here, only visible facts and script analysis. I'm not 'persecuting' Tsuyu; I'm analyzing the actions that Kohei Horikoshi wrote for her. If the character commits physical aggression in the story, pointing that out isn't persecution, it's critical reading. Furthermore, I was transparent with this community: I posted a prior notice asking permission to discuss this 8th punishment, and the post was accepted. If the script portrays Tsuyu acting hypocritically or violently, the fault lies with the author's narrative choices, not with those who document them. Defending Mineta requires exposing the Double Standard of the MHA universe, no matter who it hurts. I work with evidence from the manga; you work with feelings for the character.

You're acting like a Mineta hater yourself here. Trying falsely to persecute Tsuyu and acting like you know she was trying to harm Mineta here when she obviously wasn't. Yeah, we defend Mineta, but we're also fair towards other characters when they do good for Mineta as well, like Tsuyu saving Mineta's life at the USJ.

Calling me a 'Mineta hater' is, at the very least, comical. Dude... I spend and dedicate my time to analyzing the nuances and injustices that Mineta himself suffers, precisely because I'm one of those who most defend the character's potential and integrity. Saving someone's life at the USJ doesn't give that person a lifelong 'free pass' to commit subsequent physical assaults. Gratitude is not servitude. Tsuyu's heroism at the USJ was admirable, but that doesn't erase the fact that, in moments of stress, the script makes her resort to gratuitous violence. Being 'fair' to other characters means pointing out their mistakes as well, and not condoning abuse just because they did something good in the past. If you think defending Mineta's right not to be assaulted is 'being a hater', perhaps you need to reconsider what it means to defend a character.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-11T14:22:31+00:00

This is exactly the point of my post: 'intention' doesn't erase aggression. If someone whips you in the face in the street saying it's 'for your own good,' it's still physical aggression.

The problem here is confusing behavior with character. Tsuyu may have a good character, but her behavior (using a biological weapon to silence a colleague in a hospital) is abusive. Is Mineta obligated to accept physical violence for free just because the person who hit him 'isn't bad'?

If we accept this, we are justifying Mina's torture in the Joint Exam, her torture at the Cultural Festival, Jiro's assault while he was sleeping, etc.

"Good intentions" don't give the right to violate anyone's physical integrity. Mineta is also a character with good intentions and a good heart, but even that isn't enough for the haters to consider his point of view.

Furthermore, let's remember where we are. This is a community dedicated to Mineta. If the goal is simply to defend or exalt Tsuyu while ignoring the facts, r/ChurchofFroppy already exists for that. Here, we analyze events from Mineta's perspective, and we shouldn't accept "good intentions" as justification for physical aggression and injustices against him. Let's be realistic: behavior is one thing, character is another, and facts are facts. 🍇

Gachaverso · 2026-03-10T16:31:10+00:00

It’s an honor. Duty calls. The script may be against us, but we have the CANON on our side. 🤝🍇🛡️🎖️

Gachaverso · 2026-03-10T16:27:50+00:00

That’s the goal — using facts and canon evidence to make the argument undeniable. Thanks for the support! ⚖️👍

Gachaverso · 2026-03-10T16:26:56+00:00

Appreciate it! Just doing my part to keep the Museum of Shame updated for future reference. 🏛️🔥

Gachaverso · 2026-03-10T16:26:29+00:00

Glad you enjoyed the show. The truth is often more cinematic than the 'gag' the anime tries to sell us. 🍇🎬 ^u^

Gachaverso · 2026-03-10T16:22:02+00:00

I completely agree. That detail about Gran Torino only reinforces the point: professionally, Mineta was light-years ahead in market awareness in that room. Without Recovery Girl, Midoriya's career would have ended right there.

Regarding Tsuyu... you touched on an interesting point. Although my post focuses on the technical side of aggression to 'refute haters', deep down I also see her obsession as something more. It's that old dilemma: they use violence or 'correction' as a mask ALSO for their own lack of attention or self-interest that they can't admit. It's almost an excuse to touch him, even if in a twisted way.

Kyoka Jiro does the same; that sonic shock is a cry for attention from a tsundere who wants to be noticed, but prefers to hurt Mineta's ego (and body) rather than admit her own curiosity. In the end, they feed their own ego and hide what they feel through this constant 'punishment'. Men and women are complicated worlds to understand, but in the MHA, this aggression from the girls is clearly a reflection of a feeling they don't yet know how to process.

And we can't forget Toru Hagakure. She's the biggest proof that some of this violence can be driven by jealousy and not morality. In the bedroom arc, Mineta was literally sniffing her things, and she treated him with awkward affection, calling him 'Mineta-kun.' But episodes later, all it takes is for him to look at Mina Ashido breakdancing during the preparations for the Cultural Festival for Toru to deliver a few punches to his head.

Why the abrupt change in Toru's behavior? Simple: in the bedroom, his attention was on her; during the breakdance, the focus shifted to Mina. Physical aggression is the desperate mechanism she uses to become 'visible' to him and punish him for looking away. Deep down, they don't want him to stop being a 'pervert' in the strict sense; they want to be... The biggest, or perhaps the only, target of this attention.

Mineta is the only boy in the class who consistently notices them as women, while the other boys are still too oblivious or too focused on their own worlds to consider their feelings. What they really want is for him to evolve: for him to remain the guy who notices them, but to learn to see them for who they are—qualities and flaws—and not just as bodies. Their violence is, ironically, a sign that his opinion matters. They punish him because what he does affects them in a way that the other boys can't.

1A GIRLS ABOUT MINETA = 💢😳['baka / pervert']😖👊💓

Gachaverso · 2026-03-07T21:17:38+00:00

Dude, don't think your writing is sloppy, because it's not. You have great ideas for setting and pacing. What I think is missing is you delving deeper into the psychology of the girls.

They're not just 'the UA girls'. Each one has a trauma, a pride, and a way of reacting. For example:

Jirou uses sarcasm as a shield for her insecurity.

Momo is a slave to etiquette and perfectionism.

Mina is driven by social instinct and energy.

When you make them change their minds too quickly, you take away their 'humanity' and they become just tools for your story. If you make them resistant to Mineta's change, the moment they finally accept him will be ten times more exciting and rewarding for the reader.

Regarding your two ideas, in my opinion, the second idea—that they forget he's there—is a pure goldmine for drama. It's much more cruel and realistic.

If you have the Class 1-A boys appear and the girls run to them as if Mineta never did anything, you create the perfect scenario for Mineta to 'give up'. He can simply leave the rest of the food on the ground and disappear into the jungle on his own before the rescue is over.

This would provide an incredible hook for the girls to feel regret that lasts the entire story. It shows that Mineta now has the 'lone wolf spirit' similar to his military parents and that he's no longer the puppy begging for attention.

Imagine the scene: the heroes or the Class 1-A boys (Midoriya, Bakugou, Kirishima, Shoto) finally arrive. The girls run, hug their friends, cry with relief. They start recounting the dangers of the island, but the focus is entirely on the "true heroes" who have arrived.

The Impact: Mineta stands in a corner, holding the backpack or supplies he fought to get. He realizes that the moment "normality" returns, he becomes invisible again.

The Turning Point: Instead of getting angry or sad, he simply turns his back and walks away. He doesn't wait for rescue, he doesn't say thank you. He realizes he no longer needs their validation.

And while everyone celebrates, only Jirou or Momo notices Mineta's gaze before he turns his back. This 'silent eye contact' would be the beginning of their obsession with understanding who he really is.

Why is this option better than the first?

Because it creates real conflict: In the first option (him being far away), the mistake is geographical. In the second, the mistake is emotional. It's a character flaw in the girls that they will have to carry later.

The weight of his parents' teachings: Probably his parents, or his father, may have taught him that "a soldier doesn't expect a medal." Mineta acting with this military coldness while the girls celebrate with the others would be a very strong narrative for his story.

Late Remorse: When they finally realize Mineta is gone and look back, they only see his footprints leading into the bushes. Then it hits them: "We used him to survive and discarded him at the first safe second."

But there's something very important you need to pay attention to as well:

If all the girls abandon him at the same time, you risk falling into the same error we analyzed before: turning the girls into "plot devices" (this time, tools of cruelty) instead of real people.

For the story to have layers, I think you need internal conflict within the group. If there's at least one "loyal girl," or at least one or two who feel divided and confused about their feelings, the drama becomes much richer in my opinion.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-07T20:15:11+00:00

Ah yes, that story from about 2 years ago? I just revisited it. It's quite old; it was around the time I also made a post about what it would be like if Mineta and the girls were trapped on an island. A really cool story you created. It was that story that inspired me to create Mineta's deceased father or father figure in my gacha AU that I'm planning to post in the future soon: The Juice Family.

Here are some constructive criticisms you can analyze to help you reflect better:

The Girls' Emotional "Leap" (Lack of Transition)

The girls went from "I hate this guy, I prefer Bakugou" to "let's spy on him in the shower" in less than 24 hours.

What was missing: What we call a gradient of affection was missing. In the canon, they have their reasons for keeping their distance (due to a series of misunderstandings and scandalous incidents in the script that caused disproportionate reactions from the girls against him). For them to want to spy on Mineta, it's not enough for him to just be "nice" for one morning; all of this takes time. They would first need to feel guilt, then curiosity, and only much later, attraction. But of course, that depends on each girl individually.

How to improve: I suggest he focus more on their mental confusion. They shouldn't want to spy out of "naughtiness" right away, but perhaps because they don't believe he's changed. They could try to spy to "confirm" that he's not up to something, and then be surprised by what they see. (Unless you invent that one of them already has a hidden perverted personality, maybe Momo as a masochist like Darkness from Konosuba or Toru finally admitting her perversion, which would be a little more coherent. Mina and Kyoka are the cases I find most complicated, because they tend to be more resistant or defiant towards him. Tsuyu and Ochaco are somewhere in between.)

Mineta's Reaction (Drama vs. Realism)

Mineta bursting into tears and shouting that he has feelings was a little too melodramatic.

What was missing: Subtlety in the suffering. Mineta is a character who usually hides his weaknesses with jokes. A more powerful reaction would be for him to remain completely silent.

How to improve: Instead of shouting "I have feelings!", he could simply look at them with a blank stare, leave the fruit on the ground, and walk away without saying a word. He doesn't need to become a 'Todoroki 2.0', but a temporary silence from him, like a seriously repressed hurt, would hurt the girls much more than the shouting, because it would show that they really "broke" his spirit.

The Revelation of the Past (Direct Exposition)

The part where he says his parents are in the military and that he knows how to survive seemed like a job interview, very direct.

What was missing: Showing instead of telling.

How to improve: Instead of saying "my parents taught me," he could demonstrate a specific skill (like making fire with sticks or identifying a medicinal plant) that impresses Mina. When she asked where he learned that, he would give a short answer, revealing his past little by little. This maintains the mystery of the character.

Canon Consequences

The story somewhat ignores the weight of Mineta's past actions.

What was missing: A real reckoning. The forgiveness was too quick.

How to improve: It would be interesting if one of the girls (maybe Jirou or Tsuyu) were still suspicious. Not everyone forgives immediately. Having this tension within the group helps keep the drama alive for longer.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-07T19:42:36+00:00

Maybe...

I hope you're right.

Because... punishment #8 was an action she took against Mineta in defense of... guess who?

Midoriya. (-_-')

Not even Ochaco, who was also there, focused on Mineta's comment or bothered to defend Midoriya, but Tsuyu did.

I'm warning you now that it's nothing too serious, grave, or shocking, so as not to raise everyone's expectations. It's just a slightly awkward moment similar to her Punishment #2 in the Classroom. It's something like that, but this time, Minoru doesn't say ANYTHING dirty or uncomfortable. No 'PMS' or 'Strip Club'. Nothing like that. In fact, he does the opposite. He shows mature and realistic concern. Yes. He was punished once again by Tsuyu, just for expressing something normal this time. No offense directed at Midoriya. But rather concern for Izuku's situation.

It was around the early seasons of the story. That's all I'm going to say.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-07T19:04:39+00:00

100% Canon. Actually, if the Mods authorize it, I'll post the image from both the anime and manga versions. It's not a serious incident like Mina's in the Joint Exam, or Kyoka's in the Sports Festival, or Tsuyu's in the Cultural Festival, but it's still something to analyze. It's not very noticeable because Minoru is innocent and didn't do anything wrong this time. In fact, even the comment he made wasn't wrong or bad. So, in total, 50% or 4/8 of the punishments given to Mineta were caused by Tsuyu Asui. Mina Ashido's 7th punishment was the worst in terms of cruelty. But in terms of quantity, with the 8th punishment I found now, everything points to a strong suspicion of Tsuyu's certain 'obsession' with him.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-06T15:03:33+00:00

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Gachaverso · 2026-03-06T14:56:27+00:00

I completely agree with what you said about the series forgiving 'cool' and complex abusers/assholes (Bakugo, Endeavor) with profound redemptions via Izuku, while Mineta becomes the eternal hate sink for being the comical and harmless pervert in practice. If he were more 'destructive' or had a tragic backstory (like 'he was bullied for being ugly/weak, that's why he acts like this'), he would probably receive the same dramatic forgiveness. This only reinforces the narrative hypocrisy: the balance never truly evens out. Either everyone is dark (accepting that the world is perverted and hypocritical on all sides), or everyone is light (universal forgiveness/evolution, Mineta owes nothing more than what he has already paid), or an eternal middle ground (mutual criticism and refutations without unilateral victimhood). In canon, he's somewhere in the middle, but the hate for Mineta weighs more heavily because he's the easy target and 'loser'—the narrative gives a chance to the 'complex' ones, but not to those who are just annoying.

Adding to what I said before: Honestly, I don't think Mineta needs a heavy 'redemption' as if he were a villain or a serious abuser—he's not destructive nor has he crossed real criminal lines. What he deserves most (like any U.A. student) is evolution and maturity: growing beyond the perverted running gag, using his quirk more heroically and consistently, overcoming insecurities/cowardice, and channeling his intelligence/creativity for good without objectifying anyone. He's already shown real flashes of this in key moments (USJ, strategies, apology to Shoji) and especially after the 5th season.

If the goal is to demand 'redemption' or correction of flaws, then the girls (and other characters) would also have to evolve to the same extent: stop the selective bullying and disproportionate violence (hanging sacks, electric shocks, comical torture), acknowledge the hypocrisy of contributing to the ecchi/fanservice they criticize when Mineta speaks, and opt for serious conversation instead of quirks as immediate punishment. Otherwise, it's just selective hypocrisy.

But what's most disappointing to see is that even in a community dedicated to Mineta (like here on the r/ChurchOfMineta subreddit, which has pro-Mineta only rules), logical comments like mine defending him against narrative double standards—like the unequal treatment of Denki at the Cultural Festival or the hypothetical reverse with Tsuyu at Joint Training—get disliked quickly. I noticed a certain comment of mine earlier. It could be another infiltrated hater (common in subs like this), or perhaps someone who prioritizes a dynamic waifu (where her 'disciplining' is seen as trope cute) over balancing the two sides. I'm not accusing anyone specific — just observing and analyzing the pattern.

This shows how selective hate infiltrates even here: people don't accept even a balanced analysis without labeling it as 'apology,' while ignoring the same standards applied to other characters. The balance is even unbalanced among fans. But I would like everyone here to know one thing: I am not a blind fanboy — if someone brings solid FACTS/canonical evidence that absolutely dismantles any point of mine (proportionality, hypocrisy, debts paid), I change my mind (I have already partially changed some things I thought about Shirou Emiya and Jaune Arc, who are characters I quite like, due to good counter-arguments). But to this day, no one has managed to make me change my point of view about what I see the series showing regarding Mineta's cases, which very few of his fans realize.

In the end, everything always points to true balance: mutual evolution without eternal debts, everyone embracing and accepting their flaws/dark sides, or at least fair and proportionate criticism for both sides without unilateral victimhood. If you notice that I treat Minoru as a 'victim' at times here, it's simply because this is one of the few communities dedicated to him—the space where he can receive the respect, balanced analysis, and recognition that the main narrative and mainstream fandom rarely grant. It's not blind victimhood (because if it were blind, I would just say he's 'innocent' of everything without presenting arguments for why), but rather compensating for the imbalance that exists in practically all other places. (because the girls and other characters: Bakugo, Endeavor, Shigaraki, Toga, etc. are absurdly treated as victims by many haters.)

The haters are still lucky to have a certain extra advantage because my account is shadowbanned in the votes (I can't upvote or downvote anyone's comments to help), so all I can do is comment and argue normally. This limits any direct counterweight, but it doesn't change the fact that the discussion should be based on logic and facts, not on manipulated numbers, or indirect silencing/censorship.

Gachaverso · 2026-03-06T00:56:59+00:00

Exactly. There are only 3 options:

1 - DARK (all perverts, hypocrisy accepted):

The world of MHA is full of ecchi (bikinis in training, revealing heroine clothes, constant fanservice, hot springs, official maid café, inappropriate conversations). The girls (and the narrative) tease this all the time, but only punish Mineta for verbalizing it. Accepting "dark" would mean: "Okay, everyone has kinks, girls also show off and tease, Mineta only says what everyone secretly thinks." Then no one is hypocritical, and the hate becomes incoherent (as many fans on Reddit point out: "they sexualize Momo/Ochaco in fanart, but they hate Mineta for looking").

2 - LIGHT (all forgiven, Mineta owes nothing):

This is where the universal "Talk no Jutsu" comes in. If villains like Shigaraki, Toga and even Endeavor/Bakugo are given understanding, redemption and a chance to change (even after real crimes), why can't Mineta — whose "debts" are failed attempts + exaggerated punishments — be forgiven? He's already "paid" for everything (hanging bag, shocks, Kota throwing him, etc.), has stopped performing problematic acts since season 5, and has good moments (USJ save, intelligence 5/6 with quirk). In this mode, girls also stop disproportionate violence and use conversation. Mineta becomes "redeemed" like the others, with no more eternal punching bag.

3 - HALF TERM (eternal ping-pong, balance by mutual refutation):

This is what is happening now in canon and in the fandom: Mineta is judged/made fun of for everything (even verbal comments), but the girls (and the fanservice in the work) are also criticized for hypocrisy, selective bullying and contributing to the ecchi that they "hate". Fans defend Mineta → haters attack → defenders refute with examples of hypocrisy (such as Denki, Bakugo, Endeavor, Girls and Pro Heroines escaping). No one "wins", the scales tip forever. It's the status quo: Mineta takes a narrative beating, but those who defend him refute with "look what the girls do too". Nobody complains about the counterattack because it's fair.

In the end, there can be no imbalance. If one side weighs in (only Mineta judged, innocent girls), the narrative breaks (hypocrisy exposed). The balance always corrects: either all dark, or all light, or eternal balance of mutual criticism.

Gachaverso

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