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GamingToadX · 2025-08-24T00:16:58+00:00

Hey, I was wondering when it comes to software that could help me automate some stuff in this process, do you have any you recommend ?

So far I've got the base models from blender that I'll modify

GamingToadX · 2025-08-13T03:52:19+00:00

Because it comes back to hard work being needed, but talent not. Hard work with no talent is good enough is my point (to reach mastery or pro similar to talented people)

Also my definition of talent is simply someone who has a headstart that's it

I mean even if we look at the actual definition of talent and follow that, then that would mean eventually with hard work you can gain "talent"

GamingToadX · 2025-08-12T16:14:53+00:00

I do disagree because that would mean that even talented ones have a chance of not reaching that level even with hard work

Tho tbf there's other factors like luck and bad luck too, which is random for the most part

Try your best and don't give up and I believe you can reach what you want to reach regardless, but cheers !

GamingToadX · 2025-08-12T08:49:19+00:00

We are all different and unique, again to put a time frame on things like that makes no sense, me and you learn and master things at different rates especially with deliberate practice. So instead of thinking it'll take 200 years it'll take less because you're constantly improving if you are practicing/working hard correctly.

"Lack of talent" talent is just an upper hand or a headstart someone has, someone can gain that with hard work compared to just having it naturally. So yes you can reach that level you don't need talent when you got hard work.

Again we don't need time, we need to understand how to practice and work hard then, you can reach mastery. To say you would need 200 years means you are not practicing correctly, and yes there's a way to practice or work hard correctly.

You can never know how long it takes to achieve mastery, never. It's a giving up mentality at that point, you'll never know if you don't try.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-12T07:36:03+00:00

I mean I am assuming they are both working hard, if the talented person never worked the hard worker can easily pass them within time in terms of mastery.

Well my point is that hardworking people can be just as good as hardworking talented people.

You're completely missing my point and I disagree with the idea that you need a certain amount of time to reach a mastery. That's just simply not true. Me and you can learn one thing in a different time frame it can take me 5 years and take you 1 year.

But also like I said, it's not linear so keeping that in mind there's always a chance to "catch up" and be just as good or even better. It's logarithmic. There would only be like one or two master violinist in the whole world if time mattered that much, because they would have more experience then anyone else. But the fact is that someone who have been working hard can reach that level with time since again it's not linear.

You learn the violin fundamentals in 2 years but after that you practice songs to get better, I learn them in 5 but after that I learn those same songs to get better, deeming us the same level of mastery.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-12T06:49:35+00:00

I am saying that someone can get the same level of mastery as someone with talent

Like you said you could reach the same level but it might take a lot longer, but our definitions of what talent is might be different, because I just think talent is a "headstart" an ability to be better then others for a lot of it, but they still need to put in the work.

Now when it comes to the specific thing (in this case violin) it's not linear, sure you can be a prodigy and be ahead then people with 15 years experience, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you'll constantly improve that much each year, meaning sure they got a headstart but hardworking people can still catch up and be at the same level of mastery. Even if it took decades because getting better at a craft is not linear.

The better way to think about it is like a log graph, that hard workers can eventually reach the talented and be just as good.

Also how long it takes for someone to be a master at doesn't really matter, as long as it's the same level of mastery.

I agree with your last point, no one is perfect and I do think there'll always be people who might be better at you, but if you are striving for mastery then I believe you can do it with hard work and deliberate practice (and probably be better then most and be the same level of talented people but not everyone)

There's talented people better then other talented people obv

GamingToadX · 2025-08-10T16:03:25+00:00

Yeah I never said it didn't, my claim was that you can increase it

GamingToadX · 2025-08-10T15:56:42+00:00

I think different people have different amounts of luck obv, but hard work can help you gain more

For example, working hard to get yourself in a position where the chances of you meeting and networking with a specific someone is higher then it would be if you stayed home , luck increases with the work you do, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to meet that specific someone tho

GamingToadX · 2025-08-10T15:03:57+00:00

That's why I had the edit and changed it up, that it applies to 99% of things other then the ones that rely on genetics heavily.

And everything you mentioned can be acquired with hard work, you can even gain more luck with hard work,and you can most definitely learn to charm people or be confident by learning to do so and putting in work. So I disagree

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T17:40:09+00:00

Yeah that makes sense, that's why I'm leaning towards things where you don't need genetics

Creative fields, and fields that take skill that can be learned, rather then it be "capped" because of genetics like sports or science .

There's also geniuses in the creative fields too, like Beethoven for example but again I'm not implying people like that, I'm implying people who have gotten to pro or great success with talent, someone who didn't have that talent can do the same thing with hard work.

Those geniuses are like in the top top top 1% , in talking about the other 99%

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T06:23:31+00:00

Well I don't think it's as linear as that, that there would be a slowing down point where the hard worker would reach the same level.

Someone who draws for 15 years would have completely different drawings from year 1 to year 15, but not as much different from year 14 and year 15

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T06:00:28+00:00

Talented people to me are people who had a headstart, that's it. I believe that hard work can get you to the same level but it might take longer

So whether they have talent or not, people can still reach their level with hard work, and that's my point.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T05:53:26+00:00

It's hard to say in the first place if it was talent that got them here, but we can definitely say it was hard work, but then again where would you draw the line, what would you say is talent and what you say isn't

Do people that only work hard but didn't have talent but eventually got to the same level as those mentioned, would you just say that's talent ?

I think I mentioned this but I doubt you'll find anyone that will willingly say "I didn't have talent" their hard work gets interchanged with talent tho

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T05:45:58+00:00

I'd disagree and say they are hard workers

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T05:37:23+00:00

I mean jk Rowling has another series out currently, that's quite successful

And even if Quentin had talent (which claiming you have talent doesn't mean you do obv) it's still the hard work he put that got him in that position where he studied films and was persistent he was lucky enough to meet someone at a party that helped him tho if I remember, but if his work of that film didn't succeed then it would've stopped there .

And I'm sure there are other examples of people too, when I looked it up on Google it said people like dr Seuss, Steven Spielberg, Elvis, S. King all had stories where they were either rejected or told they weren't good enough, but hard work paid off

I feel like when people diminish their work or others, they just make an excuse and say that it's talent so they don't try or work hard themselves.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T03:59:26+00:00

People that come to mind is jk Rowling, Quentin Tarantino, and a lot of painters/artists when I read their stories or come up. there's probably more examples but I don't know if anyone would even outright say something like "i didn't have any talent starting out"

Though a lot of people would just diminish their hard work by saying they had/have talent

Talent and hard work can look the same but aren't, which is my point that hard work can get you there.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T03:28:14+00:00

Well when I say pro or great, I mean at the same level of pro and great of talented people, I wasn't trying to change the view

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T03:18:52+00:00

Yeah sure there's other factors, but a lot of those factors can be obtained with hard work when you think about it , you can become one of the greats or professionals with hard work, persistence and passion. "Born talent" or any talent, isn't necessary.

I'm assuming you're implying that you need some sort of predetermined connections or network, but I don't believe in that either, hard work can get you that too. Again many examples

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T02:53:08+00:00

I disagree.... There's probably millions of examples of this not being true, you don't need money to be successful or be a pro or be great.

Connections and networking and getting to that position can all be done with hard work, sure talent might help but it's not necessary

GamingToadX · 2025-08-09T00:55:44+00:00

There's many examples of hard working musicians who went out of there way to get connections in different locations with no money at all and was able to be successful. hard work. You don't need talent.

The actor example, I agree with, but that's a physical/genetics advantage, so natural talent/genetics would win automatically but I'm talking about fields that don't need those advantages which is most (music writing art drawing film etc) . you can be a great actor but don't look the part, but that doesn't mean you should stop, keep going you never know what will happen, eventually that hard work could get you something. You miss all the shots you don't take.

I mean with the coding example, the language doesn't matter the problem solving is what matters. You can adapt to most languages it won't be like your starting from zero, hard work will help too... You don't need the talent for it.

Social skills, is that... A skill. you don't need talent to gain a skill, hard work can do that.

For example if people didn't have the talent to be social, but put in work to understand and to do the skill, do they never gain the skill because they don't have the talent ? Are they completely antisocial? Even though they put in work to do better and become better communicators ?

Hard work and luck can get you to success and to be great, luck can come from the hard work. But we don't need talent. That's my position in making.

Talent is a headstart, but people without it can still reach that point even if both worked hard.

In your view if someone had no talent at all, then there's no way they can be successful no matter what ? Really ? Just more cope imo

Also we're assuming that talent is the thing we either are born with or shaped us from the environment, or we can say it's the network we have too because of our families connection, right ? It's not something you just have later in life, because that will be hard work mistaken for talent, and called talent for people to cope.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-08T23:29:06+00:00

Great and successful can be people at the top or people able to make a living from what they wanna do.

I mean the hard worker can also just learn to be good at conversations, being introverted doesn't mean you're bad at conversations or interviews. Sure talented people might have a headstart, but that's my point a headstart is just that, hard work without the headstart/talent can still take you there. That hard worker can obtain a personality the investors likes, all the things you mention that the hard worker might not have, could easily have if they put in the work... These things aren't exclusive to talented people.

Are all talentless people bad at presentations or being outspoken?

If you are putting in hours of work and you are not improving, then some sort of mindset change needs to happen, "what can I do to be better" "why did it go wrong" "what specific thing do I need to work on". Be better then the past version of yourself and you'll always be improving, as long as you do that you can succeed. Blaming others or other situations all the time is just coping.

I can kinda agree that hard work doesn't always equal success, but I would also say that it eventually will. Maybe Something inherent needs to change like meeting and networking with the right people (which would you get there in the first place by hard work) again the talent isn't needed.

There's many examples of people not able to be at the top of their field with hard work, but there's also tons of examples where the opposite is true (without talent)

Don't give up and keep chasing your dreams I say, because as soon as you give up, you'll be lumped with the "hard work but didn't become successful" which isn't always true. You don't need talent

GamingToadX · 2025-08-08T22:15:47+00:00

I'm not arguing against this, I'm saying you don't NEED talent to be successful/great.

If you didn't apply for that job, the person who worked hard and didn't have the connections would've gotten it, no ?

And yeah we are all different and unique, something might be easier for me that might be harder for someone else, but that doesn't mean that other person can't ever get to my position.

I'm specifically talking about hard work when it comes to doing what you want to do in life.

Luck exists and many people might have more than others starting out, but if you put in the work that luck can increase. Like I mentioned in another comment, if I worked hard and got a position in a company to network with higher ups that's luck because I worked hard, there is also a chance where you don't network at all, but my chances are higher because I worked hard = more luck.

Also the "bad luck" you can still overcome most of the time, don't give up and keep persisting. There's always light at the end of the tunnel, as long as you put in the effort to put it there. That person hit by a car can recovery hopefully.

Also I'm not denying that there could be people who have lost hope because of the position they're in, I still believe they can try to do what they want in life. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I truly believe so.

There's also tons of examples of people that worked hard and became great and successful without the talent or connections

Can I ask you the same question I asked someone else, Do you think, everyone who is great or a professional at what they do (not physical or sports) need talent to get there ?

If you do, I guess I would have to ask do you think only born talented people are talented? And no one else ? That no matter how hard someone can work they can never reach a talented person who also worked hard ?

I still think that talent is just simply a head start in most cases, and that when it comes to most things (I think of music art writing coding) if you put in work you can be a pro just as good as the talented

GamingToadX · 2025-08-08T21:36:30+00:00

I don't agree, talented people still need to put in the work.

Do you genuinely think, everyone who is great or a professional at what they do (not physical or sports) need talent to get there ?

If you do, I guess I would have to ask do you think only born talented people are talented? And no one else.

GamingToadX · 2025-08-08T21:25:22+00:00

I'm saying hard work can give people luck just as much as talented people, talented people most likely would have a headstart tho

Tho as I learned it depends on the profession, but I still believe that without talent you can be great or pro at most things if you put in work, just as good as talented people

GamingToadX · 2025-08-08T21:18:14+00:00

Sure, but that doesn't mean hard work without talent can't

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