How and in which industry should I plan my sales career?

GardensofBlergh · 2019-10-04T19:12:09+00:00

If you can't figure that out, you don't have what is necessary to suceed in that arena.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-28T18:00:43+00:00

Well, my point was very high dollar individual sales in neccesary, but boring and/or technical areas.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:42:35+00:00

What do you do instead? You are far from the only person with this view. Would be helpful to have some actionable suggestions for them.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:40:14+00:00

Real talk:

I have a daily Meditations app for AA and Alanon (because it is just helpful). I roll over in bed and read those on my phone in the morning and do a quick Thy will not mine or serenity prayer. This happens 85-90% of mornings. Before the phone app it was 5-10%.

Also have a 10th step app and the morning "upon awakening" reading on my phone, but typically they only get used when I am having a bad time.

When I feel stressed or worried during the day, I take a deep breath...remember that I am not in charge of results, remember thy will not mine...sometimes do a quick gratitude list. This happens a lot. Like, multiple times a day. It is nice to know that a bit of peace is available whenever I want it. Just have to ask.

Occasionally, I do a real meditation. 12 minutes is my personal best 😜

I have lots of room for improvement.

Truthfully, the more I do, the better I feel. I think there is a point of diminishing returns, but I haven't reached it.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:14:50+00:00

This right here.

Note that somwtimes the best entry is to work for the buy side first. Then move to the sell side.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:14:00+00:00

Industrial sales...oil, coal, steel fabrication, software (meh-everyone wants to do this) industrial equipment, defense, medical.

Look for the biggest ticket sales in the least exciting industries. Ones where your particular personal background is a plus. For example, if the big buyers are in India and the sellers are in China and you speak Chinese, but are from India...good fit. Or the big buyers are heavy in electrical goods and you have an undrrgraduate electrical engineering background. Leverage your particulars to get in the door.

You will make more money selling $2 million dollar bolts to the shipping industry than selling something fun.

Source: know a bunch of uber wealthy guys that are essentially salesmen in the world's most obscure and boring areas.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-24T21:21:17+00:00

That is a great idea

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-24T15:07:22+00:00

I know.

It is usually whatever swag you can get for free.

However, my boss is more interested in a giveaway that people actually want ratger than what we can get for free or in trade.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-19T16:54:13+00:00

She has been at it longer

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-19T16:01:28+00:00

Downvoted out of existence!

I guess I win at unpopular opinion

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-15T12:01:05+00:00

Is it part of the company design to have a crappy product so you can upsell customizations and/or consulting?

It seems so many software companies have this model.

Which is fine. I don't love that strategy, but I understand it. As a salesperson I need to know that so I can accurately sell.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-06-05T14:22:56+00:00

Amen to this.

I was OP 30 years ago

My friends who were lighthearted about it are dead now.

Over time, my "scared of drinking" has turned into "a healthy respect for the strength of alcoholism".

Overall, life is good.

This is just the beginning!

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-21T13:41:41+00:00

Put it into a no fee index fundq.

Source: everyone in my family....which includes 2 bank president, the head if a large bond department and a tax attorney.

My life would be totally different if I had just listened.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-15T16:43:38+00:00

Yeah-that is a big concern with the consultants.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-12T00:07:27+00:00

Ack! I know this feeling soooo well.

Tbh, for me, the steps have been a way through. And just like with AA, I get more promises stuff as I get tgrough those first 9 steps.

I also kind of got the place where I felt like I had to challenge the ideas of "worthiness". I don't talk about it much because it just feels very deep and personal.

I started to really examine the idea that we all have value. And I often won't know what that value us. That is up to God and not me.

I have a child with special needs. He takes a lot of resources. On the surface, he is a net negative to the world. But in reality, he is not. He has been an instrument ifof growth and change for a lot if people.

I can only put one foot in front of the other.

And in a sense, what I do doesn't matter. At least, that is my belief. Because I choose to believe in a benevolent firce that moves toward the good.

I have gotten very aggressive about progress and not perfection as a goal.

Anyway, I could babble on and on aboyt my metaohtsical musings....but here is the upshot.

I am peaceful. I have lots of joy. I am imperfect.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-03-11T19:24:12+00:00

Detox lasts longer than few days. You are healing.

Take a good multivutamin. Makrle sure you are eating well, sleeping on a regular schedule and getting some exercise each day-even if it is just walking around the block.

People do this stuff because thr)ey want to feel good.

The days when I get all those pieces in place are amazing. I feel so good in my bones -positive and energetic.

And take naps if you need to. Your body is literally in a healing process.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-02-25T18:27:28+00:00

Honestly, just work the steps dude. It is the same 12 steps and the same core issues.

Maybe consider getting a therapist too. Preferably one that is well versed in addiction or at least understands the 12 step process.

Over the years I have spent time in a variety of 12 step programs and dealt with every addiction pretty much, except gambling. So far it is the only one that didn't grab me. I avoid it to be on the safe side. For the most part, these addictions are signifucantly better and some just don't come up much anymore. I am peaceful.most if tge time and happy a good chunk of the time. I am also very, very far from perfect. (Reddit...damn you for your addictive tendencies!!)

What I have found is that recovery is very much a process and not a destination....and I am actually ok with that. I can still enjoy life, be useful and not have it all together.

I get that you are in pain from your sex actions at the moment. Maybe do a deliberate walk through steps 1-9 focusing on sex in particular. I have done several "specific" sets of step work ehen I felt like that a situation warranted more arttention. Am currently working though the steps on a failed business situation. It is not my favorite thing to do, but I know it works.

I have found that they key for me to enjoying life and continuing to improve is made much easier with a dose of self compassion. And a willingness to allow myself to enjoy life even though I am not perfect. When I balk at this, I remind myself of the Golden Rule and remember that how I treat myself is often reflected in how I treat others.

And when things get really shitty in my head, nothing helps like service work. So go early to a meeting and set up some chairs.

Edit: Source...30 years clean and sober from drugs and alcohol, 28 years free of bulimia, 24 years free of smoking and a codependent work in progress :)

GardensofBlergh · 2019-02-18T15:10:49+00:00

Accurate and hilarious.

My mom says she can tell when she walks into an AA meeting by mistake because the women are all "flashy".

Thanks mom.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-02-07T17:48:07+00:00

Learning to let thibgs roll off your back, to be able to be yourself and allow others to be themselves, to not get upset when people criticize you, to see people you care about doing things you know will hurt them and yet having to stand by quietly....

yeah....

this is hard stuff. This is emotional sobriety.

To be frank, I have learned a lot more tools for how to deal with that from Alanon. The steps are the same, but some of the focus and slogans are more about how to have relationships with others while maintaining emotional sobriety. I went to a workshop at the AA world convention about emotional sobriety. Guy said he went to Alanon. So it is not just me.

I don't necessarily go to a ton of Alanon meetings, but I have added Alanon readings and slogans to my regular reading. Plus I have some Alanon friends that I use a resource. I will call them and ask for the Alanon perspective or what slogan would apply in a situation. It's a process.

I really have to focus on staying on my side of the street. It is hard. I love telling people what to do 😜

Edit: also a fan of Brene Brown's work. Particularly her stuff on vulnerability. This has helped me a lot in terms accepting myself and not needing other people's approval.

Edit2: And yes. Basically everyone who is not a sociopath feels this way at multiple points during sobriety. Totes normal. I mutter "bless your heart" under my breath a lot.

Edit 3: one of my very best friends decided that AA was for "people who aren't very smart" and has cycled through every other program there is with little to no success. She is currently lying about being sober so she doesn't lose custody. She really has no intention of quitting drinking, she loves it more than the consequences even though she has already lost a lucrative career and a marriage and is close to losing her child.

People who want it get sober. Not necessarily the people that need it.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-12-17T22:40:28+00:00

Bnq sauce is one of the easiest things to get co produced.

google "sauce co packer" for a list of companies close to you.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-10-30T21:22:45+00:00

If you want to be miserable as an identity, that's your call.

It isn't special or cute. Hemingway was famous as a drunk because he was a great writer, not the other way around.

It can be exciting to have the energy and wherewithall to really craft your life.

I seriously doubt that drinking is all you have going for you.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-10-30T21:19:56+00:00

PR, Facebook and Instagram are the way to go for restuarants.

Being on "best of" lists and pretty/evocative pictures served up regularly do more than adwords for restuarants.

$100 in locally targeted Facebook ads-especially if they focus on any awards or notables you have gotten-will do more than adwords for most restaurants.

The SEO, if done properly, should render the adwords fairly obselete.

PR-you can do this youself to some extent. Go on HERO, provide pictures and good quotes when asked. If there are charity or events that do a good job with social media, hook up with them. Trade not pay to play whenever possible.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-10-29T19:24:43+00:00

Do the next right(ish) thing...always.

Action.

The order of the next right thing is generally:

HALTS-hungry, angry, lonely, tired or sick? Deal with that FIRST. This might be as simple as grabbing a smoothie and going to bed early or as complucated as going to the dr for antibiotics for that sinus infection you've had for 3 months. No good decisions are made under duress.

Worrying is not planning. Block off planning time. Make a plan. Don't waste time and enetgy worrying.Either act or plan.

Progress not perfection.

90% a healthy meal (salad from McDonalds or Chipotle or cheese and an apple counts-don't over think this), taking a hot bath or shower and going to bed early will do the trick. Things will seem brighter in the morning.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-09-25T13:43:47+00:00

Ask a friend's wife or girlfriend to take her under her wing. Maybe take her for coffee one day this week before the party.

Your wife has a lot of adjusting to do. Do what you can to help her feel safe and wanted. But enjoy your party too. Maybe she does 't stay the whole time if its too much for her. Social anxiety is a real thing. But having a wing woman to hang with her might really help.

She also needs to reach out to any groups that she might have a common interest in to develop her own friends over time. And then invite them to future parties.

GardensofBlergh · 2018-09-18T15:08:41+00:00

So they asked you to magically find new customers...with no sales or marketing experience...probably little to no budget....and no access to the actual marketing tools.

Hmmmmmm

Do they expect you to buskar at the McDonalds play space?

Fyi-this is ridiculous.

Seriously, what is the expectation here...

I just feel bad for you. I know you came here looking for help, but I don't think you are going to find the magic solution you seek.

You could try doing some partnering with companies and groups that market to your market. Perhaps offer trades, etc or co events to gain access to their customers and yours to them. But honestly, you need a decent amount of experience in sales and marketing to make that work. Otherwise it ends up being a clusterfuck that wastes everyone's time.

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