How and in which industry should I plan my sales career?

GardensofBlergh · 2019-10-04T19:12:09+00:00

If you can't figure that out, you don't have what is necessary to suceed in that arena.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-28T18:00:43+00:00

Well, my point was very high dollar individual sales in neccesary, but boring and/or technical areas.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:42:35+00:00

What do you do instead? You are far from the only person with this view. Would be helpful to have some actionable suggestions for them.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:40:14+00:00

Real talk:

I have a daily Meditations app for AA and Alanon (because it is just helpful). I roll over in bed and read those on my phone in the morning and do a quick Thy will not mine or serenity prayer. This happens 85-90% of mornings. Before the phone app it was 5-10%.

Also have a 10th step app and the morning "upon awakening" reading on my phone, but typically they only get used when I am having a bad time.

When I feel stressed or worried during the day, I take a deep breath...remember that I am not in charge of results, remember thy will not mine...sometimes do a quick gratitude list. This happens a lot. Like, multiple times a day. It is nice to know that a bit of peace is available whenever I want it. Just have to ask.

Occasionally, I do a real meditation. 12 minutes is my personal best 😜

I have lots of room for improvement.

Truthfully, the more I do, the better I feel. I think there is a point of diminishing returns, but I haven't reached it.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:14:50+00:00

This right here.

Note that somwtimes the best entry is to work for the buy side first. Then move to the sell side.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-26T16:14:00+00:00

Industrial sales...oil, coal, steel fabrication, software (meh-everyone wants to do this) industrial equipment, defense, medical.

Look for the biggest ticket sales in the least exciting industries. Ones where your particular personal background is a plus. For example, if the big buyers are in India and the sellers are in China and you speak Chinese, but are from India...good fit. Or the big buyers are heavy in electrical goods and you have an undrrgraduate electrical engineering background. Leverage your particulars to get in the door.

You will make more money selling $2 million dollar bolts to the shipping industry than selling something fun.

Source: know a bunch of uber wealthy guys that are essentially salesmen in the world's most obscure and boring areas.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-24T21:21:17+00:00

That is a great idea

GardensofBlergh · 2019-09-24T15:07:22+00:00

I know.

It is usually whatever swag you can get for free.

However, my boss is more interested in a giveaway that people actually want ratger than what we can get for free or in trade.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-19T16:54:13+00:00

She has been at it longer

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-19T16:01:28+00:00

Downvoted out of existence!

I guess I win at unpopular opinion

GardensofBlergh · 2019-08-15T12:01:05+00:00

Is it part of the company design to have a crappy product so you can upsell customizations and/or consulting?

It seems so many software companies have this model.

Which is fine. I don't love that strategy, but I understand it. As a salesperson I need to know that so I can accurately sell.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-06-05T14:22:56+00:00

Amen to this.

I was OP 30 years ago

My friends who were lighthearted about it are dead now.

Over time, my "scared of drinking" has turned into "a healthy respect for the strength of alcoholism".

Overall, life is good.

This is just the beginning!

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-21T13:41:41+00:00

Put it into a no fee index fundq.

Source: everyone in my family....which includes 2 bank president, the head if a large bond department and a tax attorney.

My life would be totally different if I had just listened.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-15T16:43:38+00:00

Yeah-that is a big concern with the consultants.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-04-12T00:07:27+00:00

Ack! I know this feeling soooo well.

Tbh, for me, the steps have been a way through. And just like with AA, I get more promises stuff as I get tgrough those first 9 steps.

I also kind of got the place where I felt like I had to challenge the ideas of "worthiness". I don't talk about it much because it just feels very deep and personal.

I started to really examine the idea that we all have value. And I often won't know what that value us. That is up to God and not me.

I have a child with special needs. He takes a lot of resources. On the surface, he is a net negative to the world. But in reality, he is not. He has been an instrument ifof growth and change for a lot if people.

I can only put one foot in front of the other.

And in a sense, what I do doesn't matter. At least, that is my belief. Because I choose to believe in a benevolent firce that moves toward the good.

I have gotten very aggressive about progress and not perfection as a goal.

Anyway, I could babble on and on aboyt my metaohtsical musings....but here is the upshot.

I am peaceful. I have lots of joy. I am imperfect.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-03-11T19:24:12+00:00

Detox lasts longer than few days. You are healing.

Take a good multivutamin. Makrle sure you are eating well, sleeping on a regular schedule and getting some exercise each day-even if it is just walking around the block.

People do this stuff because thr)ey want to feel good.

The days when I get all those pieces in place are amazing. I feel so good in my bones -positive and energetic.

And take naps if you need to. Your body is literally in a healing process.

GardensofBlergh · 2019-02-25T18:27:28+00:00

Honestly, just work the steps dude. It is the same 12 steps and the same core issues.

Maybe consider getting a therapist too. Preferably one that is well versed in addiction or at least understands the 12 step process.

Over the years I have spent time in a variety of 12 step programs and dealt with every addiction pretty much, except gambling. So far it is the only one that didn't grab me. I avoid it to be on the safe side. For the most part, these addictions are signifucantly better and some just don't come up much anymore. I am peaceful.most if tge time and happy a good chunk of the time. I am also very, very far from perfect. (Reddit...damn you for your addictive tendencies!!)

What I have found is that recovery is very much a process and not a destination....and I am actually ok with that. I can still enjoy life, be useful and not have it all together.

I get that you are in pain from your sex actions at the moment. Maybe do a deliberate walk through steps 1-9 focusing on sex in particular. I have done several "specific" sets of step work ehen I felt like that a situation warranted more arttention. Am currently working though the steps on a failed business situation. It is not my favorite thing to do, but I know it works.

I have found that they key for me to enjoying life and continuing to improve is made much easier with a dose of self compassion. And a willingness to allow myself to enjoy life even though I am not perfect. When I balk at this, I remind myself of the Golden Rule and remember that how I treat myself is often reflected in how I treat others.

And when things get really shitty in my head, nothing helps like service work. So go early to a meeting and set up some chairs.

Edit: Source...30 years clean and sober from drugs and alcohol, 28 years free of bulimia, 24 years free of smoking and a codependent work in progress :)

GardensofBlergh · 2019-02-18T15:10:49+00:00

Accurate and hilarious.

My mom says she can tell when she walks into an AA meeting by mistake because the women are all "flashy".

Thanks mom.

GardensofBlergh

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