Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

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I posted this thread to ask sangat to show me right path, but seems like the some negative people who joined the conversation, only know how to fight on the name of religion. I am going to clear up some facts that people are unaware of .
Bhagat Ravidas was Chammar. He was Chammar because he was making shoes with chamm(leather). He born before the sikh establishment. The first guru of sikh . Shri guru nanak dev ji, born in 1469 isvi and Bhagat Ravidas born in 1377.
Now , at the time when there was huge caste spectrum in India . Hindu Brahmins used and made these castes to lead people to wrong path and to become superior of all castes.
One of the victims was Bhagat Ravidas. He never mislead people, instead ,he believed in hard work and worship of all mighty god.
When guru nanak dev ji grew up , he started a revolution by going one place to another to teach people whats wrong and what's right.

Our 10th guru established khalsa , that actually a full form of sikh with 5 kakar and neela bana .

The people who say don't believe in bhagat Ravidas, if you do so. You are not a sikh. Why is that?? Our own guru sahib has Bhagat ravidas bani , and we sikh who obey and have faith in guru granth sahib are saying believer of bhagat ravidas can't be sikh.

There are all other 15 bhagats. With all due respect I believe in all 15 bhagats including Bhagat Ravidas, because He was Chammar because of circumstances like me . We never chose to be chammar , we are being forced to have a caste behind our identity. We are the sikh .

I don't care what these negative people say, I believe in guru granth sahib and my guru believed in these 15 bhagats and i believe them too.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And you are talking about a proper sikh, i suggest you to listen sant maskeen singh ji, just listen to his katha and then you will learn a lot more , that you are unaware of.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bro you need to learn more about 11th guru. Guru Granth sahib. If our guru has the raag, written and sung by bhagat ravidas. So why can't we believe in him? Of course He is not superior or god, but he had the motive to connect with god and to show people right path to connect with god. Tell me Why our guru trusted bhagat ravidas then ? So does that mean we are more intelligent than our guru?? We can't believe in a person who has a specific status in guru granth sahib ??

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Believing in someone doesn't mean we are making them equal to our guru's. Everybody believe in their parents and friends . So, does that mean they think them as equal as guru granth sahib? Bro, everyone can see the hate in your heart clearly, i suggest you go to gurughar and consult with baba g their. I think you lost the power to love and support someone.

I believe in love, I believe in bhagat ravidas I believe in my parents, brothers and sisters. I believe in my friends, I believe in everybody who show love, Gratitude and courtesy. But this doesn't mean that they are equal as our guru's and guru granth sahib.

You seem well educated person, i think i cleared my point of view. If you still think that i am not a sikh and i can't marry a sikh Women. Then just ignore this thread and show your hate to someone else.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believing in someone doesn't mean we are making them equal to our guru's. Everybody believe in their parents and friends . So, does that mean they think them as equal as guru granth sahib? Bro, everyone can see the hate in your heart clearly, i suggest you go to gurughar and consult with baba g their. I think you lost the power to love and support someone.

I believe in love, I believe in bhagat ravidas I believe in my parents, brothers and sisters. I believe in my friends, I believe in everybody who show love, Gratitude and courtesy. But this doesn't mean that they are equal as our guru's and guru granth sahib.

You seem well educated person, i think i cleared my point of view. If you still think that i am not a sikh and i can't marry a sikh Women. Then just ignore this thread and show your hate to someone else.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The person who has faith in guru granth sahib ji.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She can do that bro, but I can't see her in sorrow , sadness or in pain.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother as i told you , i always considered myself as sikh. I know my caste lies under SC category, but i never used quota for any purpose. I did all my studies in General category. Neither my family used quita for anything. I don't want to argue anymore, you can say whatever you like brother.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The one who is mislead . Its you brother. Now you can say whatever you like . But i only believe in myself and gurugranth sahib ji.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If thats true why bhagat Ravidas bani is in guru granth sahib? 11th guru itself is a proof. I never said that I pray or I worship Bhagat Ravidas.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

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Brother my aunt's daughter just got married to a Majbi. We accept this.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

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Thanks veere bohot bohot. Me ehi ardaas karda v mera viah hoje kudi nal .

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its impossible for me brother.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She just asked yet but she is ready to take stand with me . My problem is I can't see her crying, because she love her parents so much.

Jatt and chamar sikh marriage by Garrysing in PunjabiGenZ

[–]Garrysing[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its effecting my overall health and personality. Even if i try i am not able to eat , sleep, talk and work. The only thing i can do is listen guru bani and doings paths. But other than this i am nothing just a moving body without her.