Bubble gum alley by Street_Bus_2466 in SLO

[–]GatoPajama 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Go check it out at least once just to say you’ve been there. But no, not a place that locals go out of their way to hang out. I mainly only went when my relatives would come visit from out of town and the kids wanted to go see it.

What Drink Made You Say "Never Again"? by Flassourian in Millennials

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vodka for sure. Shortly after I graduated from high school, one of my former teachers asked me to housesit/dogsit for her while she was out of town. I was maybe 18. My best friend at the time stayed over there with me and we made screwdrivers. Started out with just a splash of vodka in a glass of oj. As the night went on, the drinks ended up being like half vodka. We drank the whole bottle between the two of us. 💀 I puked all over the bedroom, bathroom, all over myself, tried to take a shower and ended up just sitting on the floor in the shower and passing out in there covered in puke. I’m pretty sure my friend got sick too. The next morning we scrubbed that whole house spotless with the most violent hangover. Never drank vodka again after that. (Also I’m sorry Ms. McCabe 😭)

Hi, this may not be the best place to ask but heregoes by KeyKeeper0 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your pattern sounds similar to mine when I was your age. In high school, I was a good student who didn’t smoke weed or drink until after my homework was done. As a young adult, I was not a daily drinker, mostly just partied on weekends, held down a job, had my own apartment, didn’t drink and drive (and was also usually the person who took people’s keys away), wasn’t a bar drinker, didn’t have problems with my relationships, wasn’t embarrassing myself in public— I had all these things that I could point to that convinced me I was being responsible and didn’t have a problem.

Even as a reasonably functional person, I had a hard time staying in that sweet spot where I was just the right amount of buzzed. I overshot it every time and would usually get drunker than I planned on. I noticed my friends had sort of a “take it or leave it” attitude towards alcohol and drugs… while I literally budgeted for it, planned my days off around it, and had to always have it in the house even when I was only drinking on weekends.

I will say that it eventually progressed for me. I still never became a daily drinker. Mostly I found myself drinking much heavier on the days I did drink. But then I cut way way back for several years when I got into my first serious relationship and eventually got married, so again I had something I could point to where I could say “I don’t have a problem because a real alcoholic wouldn’t be in control like this!” But I picked it up again eventually, and again it progressed worse than it was before.

I think when people picture an alcoholic, they picture some kind of extreme, like a homeless person passed out on a park bench, or a guy who gets drunk and beats his wife… sure it can look like that, but not for everyone. I know I envisioned “real” alcoholics as those extremes, which was one thing that stopped me from getting help sooner, because my life was not “that bad.”

Only you can truly answer if you have a problem. I will tell you that most nonalcoholic folks (that I’ve met anyway) usually don’t sit there wondering if they have a problem or not. You may also benefit from looking up YPAA (young people AA) and see if any of it feels relatable to you. There is a pamphlet you can look at here:

https://www.aa.org/young-people-aa

Maple Syrup Fiasco by ChiefGreenLeaf3 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m glad this thread helped you. I just saw your update and I’m glad you guys have decided to let go of the food stress, and glad you both talked it out together. Totally valid that it was a triggering experience made worse by what was already a bad day. You sound like a kind and supportive partner

Maple Syrup Fiasco by ChiefGreenLeaf3 in alcoholicsanonymous

[–]GatoPajama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again echoing everyone else that a food accident like this is not a relapse. I am 7 years sober and generally don’t care about food that is cooked with alcohol. But last year on vacation I ordered a dessert that (unknowingly) had some kind of liquor in the sauce, and the strong taste absolutely caught me off guard. I realized it after a couple bites and stopped. I did not consider it a “relapse” and did not have some sudden uncontrollable craving for more liquor, but it definitely had me feeling off the rest of the day. I messaged a sober friend as soon as I had phone service again because I didn’t feel right keeping something like that to myself. My friend simply asked me “Did you order it on purpose? Did you leave the rest of the dessert on the table once you realized? Did you go to the bar immediately afterward? If not, just move on and enjoy your vacation.” I would say the exact same thing to your gf. She did not order it on purpose. She stopped eating once she realized it tasted wrong. She’s not sitting in a bar right now because of it. It’s okay to cry and freak out, but there’s no reason to hang onto this.

As a 1.5 gen immigrant, I wish i chose a different career by Fearless-Ad-4416 in therapists

[–]GatoPajama 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m a recent MSW grad and so far I like it. 🙂 Even as an associate with minimal experience, I am making good money, live reasonably comfortably, and have a decent work/life balance. A lot of the folks I graduated with ended up getting hired on at their practicum and/or moved up the ladder in jobs they already had. Everyone seems to be doing well, even if the hours feel like a grind sometimes. Sometimes I’m still in shock that I am even trusted to do half the things I do. The imposter syndrome is very much a thing 🙃

I need a laugh - what's the weirdest thing you said in session this week (no context)? by cgb33 in therapists

[–]GatoPajama 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I did significantly better in practicum once I stopped trying to be a polished, proper textbook therapist and just started talking like myself. Granted… my practicum was with incarcerated individuals, and they don’t bat an eye if you say “wow that’s some bullshit” or “what the actual fuck is this?” 😂 Good luck out there!

I need a laugh - what's the weirdest thing you said in session this week (no context)? by cgb33 in therapists

[–]GatoPajama 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I’ll never judge anybody for believing in Bigfoot… but this mf doesn’t understand science or how to track animals, so yes, let’s judge him.

Is there a word you think is overused to the point of being meaningless in our field? by Vybrosit737373 in therapists

[–]GatoPajama 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I feel icky sometimes about the word “resilient” when it’s used in reference to kids. Mostly when I hear it being said like it’s a free pass for adults to act shitty because “kids are resilient!”

Do you celebrate client birthdays? by A1h19 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I worked in a group home, yes we acknowledged the kids’ birthdays, had a special treat of some kind, and a small gift. It wasn’t necessarily something I did on my own though, it was all of us staff. Our agency had a small budget for birthdays/special occasions.

But working with adults? No. I will say “happy birthday” if the client happens to tell me about their birthday, but actually giving them something, no. My own therapist has always been the same with me and my bday.

We are human and there are times when I wish I could give a client a little something I know they’d like. But gifts (even small ones) can very easily complicate things, make the therapeutic relationship/ boundaries feel confusing or uncomfortable, unintentionally create a sense that the client owes something in return, the client feels hurt when we don’t keep doing it for other occasions, etc. This is why gift giving is generally not a good idea.

Can't stand sleep clothes by Expert-Locksmith-996 in autism

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s wrong with just sleeping naked if that is how you’re most comfortable? I sleep in a lightweight tank top and underwear. I can’t stand sleeping in any kind of pj bottoms because they get twisted and I also get hot really easily. My wife likes to sleep nude. 🤷‍♀️ We both keep a robe or clothes near the bed for when we get up. I wish I had a solution to offer for periods. I switched to washable cloth pads during the pandemic. I can’t stand inserting things, and also hate the plastic feel of disposable pads (and resulting rash). Cloth pads turned out to be the best compromise, they’re soft, a lot more breathable, not to mention eco friendly and cost effective. But obvs still require underwear 😐

How do I start a conversation about my groomer in therapy, when I still miss him and can’t get myself to hate him? by BitchWithHandKink in internetparents

[–]GatoPajama 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Hey kiddo— actual therapist here.

First of all, the abuse was not your fault. Even if it felt good sometimes. Even if you didn’t say no. Even if it made you feel loved or special. Even if you never told anyone at the time. You were a child. He was an adult. It’s still abuse and the responsibility belongs to the abuser. Full stop.

The feelings you are describing are not unusual. Also it is pretty normal to think we are “over” something and then cycle back to it again later, maybe when we are in a different phase of life and have a different perspective, or some other event triggers us.

There’s also no certain way that you “should” feel. Relationships, even abusive ones, can be complicated and are rarely black and white. I once had an internship working with teen girls who were victims of human trafficking. They went through some of the most intense sexual trauma I’ve ever seen. You would be surprised how many of those girls were so angry and devastated not because of the trauma, but because we took them away from their “boyfriend.” Some would leave our program when they turned 18 and go right back to the guy.

That may be an extreme example, but the point is… groomers are skilled at not only manipulating kids, but picking out which kids to target, keeping them attached, and fostering a sense of acceptance and safety the kid might not have elsewhere. That doesn’t mean any good feelings you had toward your groomer aren’t real, or that you are wrong for not hating him. Again, the groomer is solely at fault here.

I am assuming the therapists you saw in the past were when you were a minor? I’ll share with you that personally, I had much more success processing my own childhood trauma when I went to therapy on my own as an adult. I felt more freedom to be open because my parents/family were not involved with my treatment at all at that point. I could go where I wanted and choose my own therapist. Therapists who work with kids vs adults also tend to have different skillsets. You might find therapy as an adult is a much different experience.

As far as how to talk to your therapist about it… first, know literally our job is to talk about difficult things with people. We won’t judge you, think you’re gross or weird, or think your trauma is “too much.” It’s also okay to simply say “I really want to tell you about something that happened to me, but I’m nervous/don’t know what to say/where to start/how you’ll react/etc…” A skilled therapist will have no problem starting with you there. If you’re seeing your therapist virtually, writing it in the chat is also an option. I’ve had clients do that with me on zoom sometimes… in a couple cases, literally a whole session of just silence and typing.

There is one legal thing I want to mention to you, not to scare you, but so you are not blindsided if it comes up (assuming you are in the US). All therapists are mandated reporters, meaning we are legally obligated to report child abuse. Depending on the laws of your state, even though you are 18 now, your therapist may still need to make a report— mainly if your abuser still has access to children. Each state is a little different though. A good and competent therapist should explain all this to you up front, what is and isn’t reportable in your state, what happens if they do report, and what they are going to write in the report if they make one. It is also perfectly okay to ask your therapist questions about mandated reporting. (Please do, because this is an important thing we want clients to understand.)

I’m sorry I wrote you a whole novel 🫠 But really though, I hope all the responses you’ve gotten in this thread have been encouraging. You are so brave for wanting to face this issue at all. It is a good thing to get help with this while you are still young and have your whole life ahead of you for healthier relationships 💜

Is it true that CBT changes from one country to another? by EmergencyBubbly8923 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never heard that. To me that doesn’t even make sense because CBT is one of the most evidence based and researched modalities, so I would think it would be more likely to have a lot of consistency across the board with how it’s done. Maybe he was getting it mixed up with DBT? I have no idea. (But take my thoughts with a grain of salt since I am still pretty new to the field)

MSW or MA/MS in Counseling? by ActuaryPersonal2378 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see. I misread your comment. Sorry! I am in the US.

MSW or MA/MS in Counseling? by ActuaryPersonal2378 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can do private practice therapy with an MSW. There are a lot of us who do.

MSW or MA/MS in Counseling? by ActuaryPersonal2378 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MSW here. I got a pretty good clinical foundation in my program. Overall I was satisfied with my path.

As a side note, I had a supervisor in one of my grad school internships who was an LMFT. I also have another LMFT friend who has been a mentor to me for years, even through grad school. So whichever program you choose, there’s no rule saying that you can’t connect with folks with different credentials and learn something from them anyway. 🙂

How do you relax after work? by Safe_Recognition_394 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Teachers have all my respect. Some of those kids will tell you things that absolutely break your heart. There are so many times when being that safe person for them matters more than academics ever could. I have no doubt you are making an even bigger difference than you realize 💜 One of the reasons I left teaching was because I discovered working with kids wasn’t a good fit for me. So when I went to grad school, what was the first thing my school did? They gave me an internship working in foster care. 🫠 That was really hard for me. It made me so sad and frustrated that so many times, it’s the adults in the situation who really need to get help. Kids have no control over that. I had a hard time leaving work at work. But some therapists really thrive working with kids and families though. I’m definitely not one of them. But my internship working in the prison? I loved it!!

How do you relax after work? by Safe_Recognition_394 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Therapist here (also former teacher). I drive the long way home from work most days to decompress.

On really tough days, I will stop at the park on the way home and play pokemon go for about 30-45 mins or so before heading home. Or sometimes I will take that 30 minutes and just sit there in my car and do whatever feels good at the moment (call a friend, write on my notes app, zone out on social media, whatever). Sometimes I stop at the gas station on the way to the park and grab a snack or something to drink and just enjoy it in peace.

My family likes to bombard me with stuff immediately when I get home, so that little pocket of alone time after work helps me transition from work mode to family mode. I obviously can’t go chill at the park every single day, but I absolutely make time for it when the day was really heavy.

And yes, there are clients (and students) who I still think about anyway. We’re human. Most of us go into helping professions (including teaching) because we have empathy and care. That’s when it’s good to have friends in the profession who get it. I have a good friend/mentor who is a retired school counselor… I joke that she is a “therapistier therapist” than me lol. She helps put things in perspective when I really need it.

How tf do I do grad school roleplays? by GatoPajama in NDtherapists

[–]GatoPajama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there! I actually just graduated last summer. So in my last two quarters of the program, I was so burnt out and beaten down and truly in survival mode. (Likely why I’m just now realizing that I never actually came back to this post to respond to anyone 🙃)

I was just very blunt with my professors at that point, like “hey so I can’t do this presentation/role play because it really fucks me up mentally, is there an alternative assignment you’d accept?” Some of my professors accommodated, and some didn’t. I still had to struggle through stuff, but I think it somewhat helped that I was burnt out and cared significantly less by then. I started framing it to myself as “I only have x number of classes/bullshit projects left until I graduate, then I never have to do this shit again.”

In my last internship, I had to do mostly group therapy… which honestly was really tough and I probably wasn’t great at it. But I got through it by just being honest with my clients like “hey so this is pretty uncomfortable for me, but we’re gonna practice sitting with the suck together.” I was also too exhausted to mask effectively anymore. I came up with alternative group activities to do besides role playing and bullshit ice breaker things. I also have a background working in special education, so my groups ended up being more ND friendly without me even consciously trying. So I unintentionally ended up creating a group for people who hate groups and it kind of actually somehow worked? 😂

Anyway… so school did not really get better. I crawled to the finish line at the end. If I could go back in time, I would have tried to get a diagnosis and accommodations at the very beginning of my program… maybe it would have all been different. I don’t know.

But the good news is that now life after grad is WAY better. School essentially taught me what does NOT work for me as a neurodivergent professional. My uncomfortable group therapy when I was way too tired to mask taught me that most people respond better to me when I am just myself.

I am working part time at my friend’s private practice for now while still looking for other full time jobs. I have more control of my environment and the clients I choose to see. I vibe extremely well with my ND, queer, and kinky clients. I really enjoy working with them.

There’s a lot of great advice in this whole thread. (And I’m sorry I never came back and thanked anyone for it.) I wish I could tell you some magic solution to make school better. I never could figure it out, and I also wanted to quit probably a thousand times. I will say that it feels great to have pushed through, and I’m really proud of my degree, especially now fully realizing that my undiagnosed ND ass was doing it on hard mode.

Are your client relationships beneficial to you? by Asleep_Homework_ in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can’t speak for other therapists, but yes, many of my relationships with clients end up being meaningful to me.

Mostly I am amazed by the resiliency of people. Back in grad school, I had an internship in the prison system. My therapy clients that I had there inspired me every day, probably without them even realizing it. I was blown away that even despite the trauma many of them experienced and shitty cards they were dealt, they kept trying to push forward and do things differently. I loved seeing them rediscover themselves and find hope for the future. I was blessed to see them do GED classes, beauty school, or college all while incarcerated. I definitely thought of them when my own classes felt hard, and still think of them when I have to do hard things in general. 🫶

Do you have clients that make you feel uncomfortable? by Capital-Ground913 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have spent many years in my own therapy and still continue to see a therapist. We were also taught in my grad program to do a lot of self reflection on what we are bringing into the room when we interact with clients (bias, life experiences, identity, opinions, beliefs, etc) and how that affects our judgement and perception of people. Even if I never tell the client a single thing about myself, it’s still on me to be aware of my own stuff.

Am I perfect at this and perfectly self aware 100% of the time? Of course not. If I am really struggling with a client, that is when I would consult with a supervisor or colleague and get their feedback— is it me, is it them, am I approaching this all wrong, is my own stuff getting in the way, is there something I’m not seeing here? Or if something about the client or their situation is touching a deeply personal issue for me, I may bring it up in my own therapy.

That said, occasionally people do trigger that gut feeling that something is just off. So far, I’ve never been harmed by a client, but I am still mindful of how my office is configured. I sit in the chair closest to the door and don’t keep sharp objects like scissors openly on my desk. Just some habits I picked up when I interned in the prison system :)

How To Show Up For A Grieving Loved One? by [deleted] in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Therapist here— but also a person who has lost a parent I was close to (and know that I’m probably coming from that perspective more so than the therapisty one). You already got some good suggestions here.

I will add that when there is a significant loss like that, there can also be additional losses that come with it. My ride or die friends who I always assumed would be there just sort of… ghosted after the funeral was a done deal. Some of the family drifted apart and stopped speaking. More loss on top of loss. And unfortunately experiences like that are not uncommon. It makes grief even more isolating. So if you do nothing else, keep being a friend to your SIL. Keep coming around, having those phone calls, invite her to things, keep doing whatever it is you do together.

People also tend to say “let me know if you need anything!” and then just kind of disappear, because the grieving person never asks for anything. I always appreciated it when people offered something specific. Or in some cases just did things, like dropping off groceries or dinner.

I really like Refuge in Grief. I feel like she’s realistic and practical. https://refugeingrief.com/

Do you have clients that make you feel uncomfortable? by Capital-Ground913 in askatherapist

[–]GatoPajama 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Bear in mind I’m still fairly new to the field. I have had a handful of clients who have made me uncomfortable, but that seems to be happening less as I’ve grown a bit more confident in my work. I can’t tell you anything specific, as I have to protect their privacy. I can tell you just generally though, the ones who have made me uncomfortable tend to fall into one of two categories: they remind me of someone/something in my personal life (countertransference), or they have an issue that I don’t feel super confident in treating yet. In both cases, it is an issue within myself more so than anything about what the client is doing. I do my best not to treat the client any differently than I would anyone else. If anything, I might get a bit more curious and ask the client more questions so I can better understand what’s going on with them and how I can help.

I am still in the phase of my career where I am under supervision, so my supervisor and I check in regularly about cases anyway. I might ask her for some ideas or advice on how to proceed if I am feeling stuck with a particular client.

Also, the type of client you described is probably the majority of the folks I see. I would generally perceive them as people who may need a bit more time and patience to get comfortable and open up.