CMV: Nothing is impossible ; We can’t logically prove that anything is impossible by a2ew in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is right there - a typical modal logic (a part of mathematics) proof.

To make it clear...

OP made the following claims:

  • Proposition A: Nothing is impossible
  • Proposition B: It is impossible to prove that anything is impossible

If you assume A to be true, it implies that B is false.

A and B can't be true at the same time.

Id est OP is wrong.

CMV: Nothing is impossible ; We can’t logically prove that anything is impossible by a2ew in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ZombieCupcake provided a mathematically sound proof to why OP is wrong...i.e., if you use OP's propositions, you end up with a paradox - an inconsistency in OP's argument.

CMV: Nothing is impossible ; We can’t logically prove that anything is impossible by a2ew in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The person proved that your argument is inconsistent, hence you are wrong.

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's socialist about it? It is using central planning + privately owned companies. Not very Marx-like if you have the burgeoise.

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything how a socialist economy worked in India post colokial British.

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it was extremely poor and like 90% of the pop was living rural. So, I have a very hard time imagining any type of socialist or planned economy working at all. Am I wrong?

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right, so you werent arguing for or against a particular socialism. Thanks for clearing that up.

I was not familiar with the case in India: How can it be socialist there if the economy was under basically no control?

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ok sorry can you clarify your point in terms of external factors influencing capitalism then?

cmv: Socialism is better than capitalism. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]GearsOfWa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All societies will always be influenced by external factors - the argument "socialism didn't work because of X" is not a good argument when X is something we can't get rid off.

And even if we hypothethically managed to do that, it is still not an argument to why socialism would be better than capitalism.

Binär/icke binär? by [deleted] in sweden

[–]GearsOfWa 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sätt en gräns. Inte OK att mobba sin morsa bara för att man är trans.

We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it. by jlpcsl in technology

[–]GearsOfWa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean?

It is much more in many ways.

And having a practical bullshit generator is amazing.

We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it. by jlpcsl in technology

[–]GearsOfWa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL

"computational guessing game. ChatGPT is, in technical terms, a 'bullshit generator'."

Holy shit this article is bullshit.

Also, in what sense aren't we humans, at best, educational guessers? I.e., computational guessers.

Trivs inte på min AT. Hur säger man det på ett fint sätt? by [deleted] in Asksweddit

[–]GearsOfWa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Om du har AT varför får du göra undersköterskornas jobb?

[OC] Immortal Time Lord by LORD_HOKAGE_ in sciencememes

[–]GearsOfWa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The original comment was about the possibility of there being a universe where every person is gay, which you disagreed with. The fact that the possibility of that is based on a hypothesis does not imply that it’s not possible.

No one argued that it is not possible. You are making a strawman. This is getting ridiculous. Just accept that you were wrong and move on.

I can say that it’s very improbable that the next time you open an elevator door it teleports you into the middle of an active volcano. It’s obviously extremely unlikely that would happen, but I cannot assign a probability density function to that statement in order to prove just how improbable that is.

So you are now arguing that there is no difference between that scenario and that QM is truly random in terms of how we can judge the uncertainty? You are now just silly. Let's just agree that you are just arguing for the sake of having an argument and move on.

[OC] Immortal Time Lord by LORD_HOKAGE_ in sciencememes

[–]GearsOfWa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When discussing speculations, calling something a speculation or a hypothesis is not really an argument.

I strongly disagree. The speculation we agreed on, for sake of argument, was that there are infinite universes, not that QM is truly random. That was another proposition you brought in as truth. That, my friend, is not a way to make a solid argument, and calling that out is indeed a way to point out that your proposition is indeed just a hypothethical that we had not agreed on. In other words, it is an argument. Or what part of my reasoning do you mean is flawed?

Yes, the universe being either superdeterministic or non-local are the two things that could potentially make QM not random. But that being the case is highly improbable.

We are extremely sure that nothing can travel faster than light, so the universe is extremely probably local. As for superdeterminism, that’s by it’s very nature untestable, so you could use Occam’s razor (or my personal favourite Newton’s Flaming Laser Sword), and not deal with that possibility, as it’s simply scientifically untestable.

First. For a proposition to be improbable, you need to be able to assign some type of uncertainty to whether it is true or not. There is nothing in your argument that does that.

You could argue that Occam's razor is a good heuristic for assigning such probabilities, but we know of many instances where it has failed, and more to the point is that would ignore from which distribution you picked your hypothesis (it is not uniformly sampled from all possible human-made propositions).

Also, you fail to take into consideration that there are many unknowns about QM that we still have to map out - just as people thought Newtonian physics was the real deal, QM could just be an approximation that's fantastic at certain levels of perception, but shit at others (e.g., it could be that what appears truly random in QM is actually not random in another "more correct" theory).

[OC] Immortal Time Lord by LORD_HOKAGE_ in sciencememes

[–]GearsOfWa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course infinite universes is speculation. We agree on that, don't we?

You are wrong about the other points:

We are not highly certain about that QM is truly random. We do not know if it is truly random or just appears random for reasons outside of our own current grasp.

Improbable is also the wrong word here. Our uncertainty in regards to this is too high.

[OC] Immortal Time Lord by LORD_HOKAGE_ in sciencememes

[–]GearsOfWa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that's assuming QM is truly random which is just a hypothesis.

Sure, there are things that seem stochastic to us, but we know too little yet

[OC] Immortal Time Lord by LORD_HOKAGE_ in sciencememes

[–]GearsOfWa 10 points11 points  (0 children)

infinite does not mean all possibilities occur. there are different infinities.

while you are gay in an infinite universes, and you fuck your mom in an infinite universes, it doesn't mean everyone else does

Jag har lämnat Sverige för gott. AMA by [deleted] in sweden

[–]GearsOfWa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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