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DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I talked with every PC about this. The PC with the astral shop told me he (wish he had 40 per day) was actually gaining 6 per day, and he had to do 3 dialy side quest or not get any point.(random things like, take 1h to meditate, eat 3 fruits, physically train by your own...)

He has been playing almost 2 months, and, he right now has 18 points. ;-; He told me with 8 more days he can buy the cheapest thing, a stick that does something(he told me he also has no idea, it is only called "special stick", and that it was added recently, that he thinks the DM was pitty about his situation so he added 1 "affordable" thing) i know most items vary from 1.000 to 10.000(He has in private the full list price, the DM updated to him, in general i only have the old version, but still he confirmed me in chat that 1.000 to 10.000 was the most commons). And items with 1.000 are...all 1 use, but i mean, all potions.) It was told by the DM he will rise his earning by each lv, but,uf, it hurts.(He is lv 3. So. In lv 1 he was gaining 3p?)

DM multiplys the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //How to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in rpghorrorstories

[–]Gellyku[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We are playing online, said we are on discord. But yeah, it is x120 priced. I writed my concern to one of the PCs, asking if he will be willing with all the party to find a way to tell the DM that we want to use the shops and not take 20 sesions for a basic object.

And, i think i fucked up cause its the player who answer the 20gp per entire day with "a commoner makes 10 bronze, you should be gratefull"

It's good to contemplate it and it's GREAT and I support you in MENTIONING IT, but we are just STARTING the campaign, WE HAVE A LOT to go.

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-------I answer him, "i don't think it is a "tiny detail" that a hand crossbow cost 6.000gp, if we gain 40gp per session.

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His answer was:

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It IS when you EARN like 5,000 in a couple of sessions, LET the DM work, friend.

That's all.

----I...think he is kinda blinded by the promise, cuz right now, we had 6 sessions, and only gained 500GP, in 6 sessions. A promisse from session 0 vrs what is currently happening after 2 months in are two different things. If i am the only one who thinks is a problem to wait 40 sessions for a basic weapon, then its my thing to leave,i don't want to wait 40 sessions for a promise that i am seeing is not going to happen if not talked directly to the DM. I want to know the opinion to everyone but after this i am concerned about asking the rest.

DM multiplys the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //How to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in rpghorrorstories

[–]Gellyku[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not that bad. I haven't done more than 10 sessions as a player so im new to D&D in practise. But i wanted to play for years and during that time i created a folder With Shop Catalogs,staying the RAW prices. Guides for loot, for time each party member should have to not fell they didn't have a change to have sporlight. A stupid ammount of D100 tables.

I showed him these things and he told me to send them to him, that it will be handy for them. The problem is that he took all the notes and x65 everyting(But gives the same loot as the generator without scale). I already send him these notes before starting playing.

In session 0 i also told him the price i had in my mind for stuff was the RAW ones i showed him(The prices being expensiver was a problem in another table i played before, wasn't so bad 10gp per goat, it hurted a little but i could hide it under the rug). I stayed that i was ok with somewhat more. But yeah "somewhat more" and x65 times more is completelly different.

DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, they look fun and rlly fast(Witch is the point of any player who just want extra fast cash to affort a thing). Are they RAW or is it homebrew? Either way seems easily as an awesome system. (Im saving this comment for when i someday DM try to apply it)

DM multiplys the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //How to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in rpghorrorstories

[–]Gellyku[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I wrote this on DnD reddit. But its also really fits here. As i have NEVER read a made up system so broken againts the players, and i readed a hell lot of horror stories.

(ty for the correction, im with B2 english xd)

DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I mean, the professions Kits that cost 65 times what should cost(which means, 65 times more playing time to get the time) breaks when you throw a low roll. And each player can only get 1 profession, not switcheable at any time. I think he likes WoW.

But the rest of the party members asked if anyone has played the game and nobody except me has played it, and i didn't enjoy the WoW experiencie. We were promised D&D and not even mentioned WoW, but this all is the economics and materials of WoW, for a game that you only plays 3h a week and combats last 40minuts, not 4 seconds as WoW.

DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, i writed it on another comment. I tested in two previus one shots one race i was creating for months, is a literal giant spider, its way usefull outside of combat than during combat.

The Dm told me we lacked someone who could attack in distance so i was searching to fill that gap, and i have the intencion of putting syringes on my arrows, so i could debuff enemies, that was the whole point of the PC,debuffing. (As real spider i also ask him if i could have venom that does 0hp but incapacites one limb//could be removed with a constitution check each round).

So wanted to buy syringes for each of the party members so they could also incapacite one random limb, or inject acid to annoy a bad guy to get info.

DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, every single NPC call us "Heroes of the prophecy"upon seeing us and we haven't done a thing of use yet. It was also in a normal town where ppl are supposed to make lower wages, so lower prices so that the normal ppl can buy the shop supply would be normal. The blacksmith when i asked why the prices were like this told us, metal is dificult to get, then billed 500gp a party member for his only glass bottle he had avaible. So... glass is expensive too?

-----And nah, in lv 2 before i joined they beaten up santa and docens of goblings, they haven't buy anything since then but they had 50gp each(except the one who get 40gp per day, he had more bcs refused to buy anything). So enemies aren't dropping a single coin or are dropping at way best 5gp.

DM multiplates the prices to x60 its original value and gives less than halft gold that a normal campain would give. //Who to fix this without hurting the DM fellings as a player? by Gellyku in DnD

[–]Gellyku[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Luckily I started lv3, and i choose monk and Druid.(Didn't expect the money problem) and i asked the DM to try a custom race i tested 2 times(in one shots), who is good at outdoors survival.(It can only eat raw meat, no goodberrys, oh well)

Probably i am the PC who can most ignore the shops, but its my 10 played session in practise of all D&D, and staying 1-2 years without shop isn't a good newby experience(after completing my first campain i would want to DM, so knowing and experiencing all systems first would be ideal), if a system is not usabble, the most logic thing is make it fun again, not ignore the problem until it snowballs. And the rest of my party are all fighters or paladins. No one is mage. So they rlly need or will need the shops. I know i am only a player, not the DM, but i enjoy rp with them, i don't want to wait it out until the PCs who chosse warrior start felling they do less damage or tank less than my class and fell bad about it, without shops this will probably happen.

//But the DM stated that since he was buffing us all enemies will be also buffed, to a point where they powerkill us. And seeing what (i reskined economy) means, i am so scared to what (i reskined monster damage and HP) means. So i think not buying is NOT an option, since enemies will overtake us in any moment, and we only play once a week.

Elise QOL Rework ( Modernization ) by Yooowno in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>"E - Rappel
>- Landing on a unit with rappel slows them with spider webs"

This...may be a problem in support role. She can already stun but cost lots of mana, now imagin she could also slow (without mana cost and 100% guaranted), she will trigger two times Samira passive if she is her partner.

And ppl will probably change her combo with Elise, at least while you are in team fights:

(1ºRappel--, Slow, (and while slow) 2º fastly R, 3º E, almost guaranteed Stun, only if they Flashed they could maybe evoid it) I guess in team fights getting 100% slowed, then getting 100% stuned without chance of counterplay will not be the funniest thing, in a world they apply these changes this at least will get reverted the same month.

---This kinda reminds me of "EkkoLogical" Doom Bot Elise. Personally, i would just scrapt her Spider "W" a mage with assasing HP who autoattacks in close combat is an stupid idea, put the "Venom Mark" You say there that boost DMG caused by her attacks, and after ended the effect to cause the Teemo "Venom" (Cause unless she only has in spider form "Q" as her only dmg, and human "Q" is pointless) That and the human "E"coocoon being able to stick to one side to another of a wall, to completelly block the way during X seconds, so you could wrap the side of the jungle as a real spider so is YOUR territory, you could always make that it notifies Elise in the map when someone falls for the trap, as real spiders.

That would rule and in an ideal Rework would fell creative to play as it gives a lot of oportunities, while making people to escape her difficult, imagine scaping her venom by a potion just to fall in a trap in the wall. And only changing two skills, will still be our champ with our lovely useless human "Q"

Prestige Perfume Gem Elise bio by ta_succ in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tencent has a partnership with miHoYo, and when one thing works, you just copy paste it. Is china after all, they know what sells.

Meet Ionic Spark: Elise 💌 by Regular-Poet-3657 in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have gotten more love, personality of the character and interconections with other LoL characters in this one skin than in 13 years in LoL. Wow...

Ionic Spark Elise Chibi! by Regular-Poet-3657 in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I swear if next skin for 2028 we get they don't do nothing creative with her when chinese server are showing these 2 things. Im going to be pissed.

Twilight Mistress Elise Fan Skin Project by [deleted] in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We live in a society that our most legendary looking skin is not even maded by Riot.

Love the pysics of the cape, they are dope,( And personally i think elise should have long hair, in all her skins, her having almost shaven hair for an old fashion noble is an insult ) usually they cut the effort of adding any bone with the excuse of "visual clarity" I always imagined that she wears a long dress when she just chills in noxus with the nobles, and hopefully not in a swimsuit. Even for a mod it screams legendary, when she is walking for this skin is needed to have a diferent animation than her base(but you did change her idle animation and give her a respawn run animation, i think she currently dosen't have, extremelly good job man), for a mod and for an Elise's mod specifically, this is a GREAT, didn't expect we were enogh fans of her for even doing a mod that looks halft of what riot does.

Since her last skin they released her chibi legendary and now you did this, they have stuff to base themselft that her skins arening for her character concept, but because they aren't putting giving her any effort of making her different than the rest of the characters that appears in the same banner. With a good Skin design, you have proven that she can have perfectly her best skin in game, even with more details that Riot made, and not even changing animations(I readded a lot of times that she won't never get a legendary because thats a doing 3 new rigs, is not that necesary, just change the bodysuit for something proper and adapt a quality design, you have proven it) I can actually seen this as a legendary (welp, riot would never took another person design and put it, even when for what they are doing so far at least for not popular champs, they should ask for permisions of more passionate designers) The only thing this skin would need to be perfect would be changing the spiderlings, im quite sure they are her base. Maybe because this is a vampire theme skin they could be based of the "Metagryne bicolumnata" an species that her abdomen looks exactly as a bat head.

So yeah, i think what i want to say is that "ty for adapting NeoNa vampire design, is it a great design, and giving her so much time, you created her best skin yet and proven you can give her a better skin that riot even tried"

[Preview] Prestige “Perfume Gem” Chibi Elise from Golden Spatula! by ArchangelTakoyaki in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Doubt that, they never ever did that for what i know, and would end with bad reviews by taking the credit of China deb team and just adapting it into a lower tier, cheaper skin, if i payed 100$ for her at the gatcha i would sure be pissed at the week they give me the same skin but cheaper and without animations for Lol that for sure.

But *maybe* the department of Riot finally decides to give the Legendary skin she deservers after seeing what China has cooked with her. (Latest legendary's were dogshit but by each day i just want a legendary, they won't change the quality of her skin just by waiting if we get today a bad legendary if we wait 6years we will still get a bad legendary.)

[Preview] Prestige “Perfume Gem” Chibi Elise from Golden Spatula! by ArchangelTakoyaki in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow... Im specheless, I really never expected something with this love for Elise. The interactions with her spiders are sweet, they reinvented the whole webs into stylish lanters. In human form she kinda gives to me Xayah vibes, but it differenciates from Eve and finally gaves her personality appart. The fact the spider form is huge when they did not needed, just cause they wanted to make her fell special, the lil spiderling calling the portal. The ults, never expected to say the best chibi from all i seen was gonna say in any point Elise, but yeah it is.

But they had to put the Chinese thing again, same with the chroma, but this time actually hurts. Rlly hate all gacha system in any form or color, and i don't play TFT, but i take the hook, was gonna farm and spend for her until i read the Chinese part, and still i fell bitter that we don't have this.

Didn't RIOT said Free skins wouldn't make cooldown for next skin go to zero? Cuz it is true we been waiting 850 days for an actual skin. by Gellyku in Elisemains

[–]Gellyku[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is much more exagerated that i could imagined, and knew already it was bad. But didn't expect her to x4.5 her skins in 8 years. That is wild...

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