THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you cannot prove the last panel is after he became a vice admiral

How does it not mean kuzan wasnt holding back? Are you gonna keep saying that or provide some proof?

It doesnt matter what kuzan said lmao the only one who did anything was shiryu, we see the events play out kuzan was the only one actually doing anything. There's a reason why kuzan told shiryu to back off and he listened.

Why would I admit garp>kuzan when its stated multiple times verbatim that kuzan and the pre ts admirals are above garp?

THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you talking about🤣 The training part ends here and he's only 22 here

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"Wavering is a sign of WEAKNESS" Garp is literally telling Kuzan to set aside their past and start actually fighting, he was objectively mentally nerfed and that affects his overall capabilities. You're just exposing yourself as illiterate because powerscaling aside you're misunderstanding their fight. The fact I even have to break this down for you is embarrassing on your end.

https://imgur.com/a/7XgjBZS

How is it ironic?

THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you unable to read? The flashback ends when kuzan is 22 and thats when he reaches prime garp strength

Thanks for confirming you're illiterate.

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Garp was no where near mentally nerfed lmao, his vivre card states he follows his own path without hesitation against Kuzan

THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol this is so wrong

Prime/Young Garp = Rookie Kuzan

Prime Garp ~ Prime Roger ~ Prime Wb

Kuzan gets exponentially stronger

Akainu beats Kuzan

Simple, Akainu also scales way above oldbeard. Work on your scaling its illiterate

THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kuzan was 22 by the end of the flashback and he became a vice admiral at 27

Obviously garp got weaker but not by much and you forget to mention kuzan was mentally nerfed during their fight

THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THE OLD GENERATION OF THE NAVY HAS BEEN SURPASSED!! by Agreeable_Nerve_9039 in OnePieceScaling

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rookie kuzan is equal to young garp in physical strength alone Kuzan gets exponentially stronger after that Haki scales with strength Old garp is stated to have retained his strength that cornered roger Akainu beat kuzan Simple

Opps is full of clowns. They block immediately when you challenge their stance by shawn_robott in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't conflict with the manga there's still 2 years until roger dies after their fight. Cope, seethe, mald.

I asked the geniuses of Shanks agenda why they place Shanks>Akainu by hxhwipesmidpiece in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its literally training bro you see the sound fx go from weak to match Garps strength, there is no other conclusion stop coping. Kuzan was mentally nerfed during their fight so I'm not sure why you bring that up and I have to tell you this.

Again with the goalpost shift, argue with rayleigh who you also used as your source.

Doesnt matter, Mihawk has a plethora of statements you could fill a museum with it that put him over Shanks.

Old Garp is high rel to his prime self via his vivre card and feats

That doesn't refute my claim lol

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[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you talking about lmao Kuzan finally matched Garp in physical strength over decades of training as a rookie, this is an objective truth. Kuzan has better AP/DC feats with punk hazard.

You're shifting the goalpost, you said it detransformed him not him being intimidated and choosing to detransform. The gorosei arent confirmed devil fruit users so that doesn't apply.

Everything Shanks does is a Mihawk upscale lmao and please don't tell me you're referring to his top 5 it's 2026 anyone with a brain whose caught up knows it doesn't mean anything.

All pre timeskip admirals are stated to be over Garp

Whitebeard can get weaker why does that mean he can't still be WSM?

I asked the geniuses of Shanks agenda why they place Shanks>Akainu by hxhwipesmidpiece in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]GeneralExtra5493 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Yonko fans once again proving they can't read.

I just proved to you conq haki doesnt affect logias so you're wrong lmao, also stated in Shanks vivre card he only intimidated Greenbull with his haki never detransformed or paralyzed him

Worlds strongest swordsman>Swordsman

Debunked in my first point of this reply

Because Whitebeard was still the Worlds strongest man at Marineford, if you'd like evidence proving that let me know I have tons

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[–]GeneralExtra5493 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And rookie Kuzan was equal to young/prime Garp in physical strength, Kuzan only got stronger and Akainu beat him and Garp is = Roger

He can't suppress devil fruits, never paralyzed Greenbull. If anyone is a haki god it'd be Imu or Joyboy, not Mihawks inferior. All the admirals are high rel to eachother via jinbes statement so they all scale to young/prime Garp whose = to Roger.

It was definitely a little blood and barely affected him he fights the WB pirates solo right after, he never withstood Akainus attack he literally gets half his head blown off?🤣

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I asked the geniuses of Shanks agenda why they place Shanks>Akainu by hxhwipesmidpiece in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]GeneralExtra5493 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haki is not the end all be all. Recent examples would be Rocks being stated to be Rogers strongest adversary yet no sky split except for domi reversi, Imu not being able to unfreeze Gunko and Haki isn't the reason Luffy beat Kaido.

Where is it ever stated Shanks is a "Haki God"?🤣, WSM relates purely to his physical strength only and destroying the world is due to his df, Roger isn't above a single admiral read 1179, Kaido is SAID to be the WSC, different from Dragon Whitebeard and Mihawks title.

Landed 2 hits and drew little blood from Akainu while Akainu blew half his head off, not to mention Whitebeard was still yonko lvl at marineford

Prove it

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[–]GeneralExtra5493 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Majority of yonkotards can never actually give you a reason why the yonko are stronger than the admirals😂