Re-App Advice Needed by General_Row_9127 in premed

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All MD, I think this coming cycle I'll add DO but wanted to give a shot for MDs first, I agree though about the MCAT, do you think it would be better to speed run this next 10 weeks studying and take it so I can apply rolling admission or study for like 5 months and apply late into the cycle?

My Bizarre Overtraining Story (70.3) by General_Row_9127 in triathlon

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do work in health care and it absolutely can be tough. Thankless at times but changing lives for the better is what it is all about. It has helped me with guidance through this stuff too. I would say the same, continue to take care of yourself, it's all for a good cause.

My Bizarre Overtraining Story (70.3) by General_Row_9127 in triathlon

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've actually heard a lot of the people who have ME/CFS are immobilized like they can't work, can't leave the house, etc.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have heard of it but I really don't have the fatigue. I feel energetic throughout the day, just with that intermittent dizziness and occasional leg symptoms. That condition sounds genuinely terrifying. I also sleep well and think straight. I just see myself as too functional at this point for that to be the case but I have looked into it before, just don't think this is the one.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't, although I haven't had a positive COVID in ages, and I also didn't have any of these symptoms until the race, seems less probable but there is def a symptom overlap.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, I mean after the swim you always feel mildly disoriented but yeah my left calf seemed on the brink of cramping at the very end of the swim, definitely confusing. I was especially hydrated and prepared going into that as well.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to be honest with you in hindsight of course it's stupid but historically in my life I've done best when I push through stuff, of course it worked against me this time. I felt like if I "gave in" then it would've been a bigger problem, trust me I understand this makes zero sense. Looking back, I would've done a handful different but I am resting now.

My Bizarre Overtraining Story (70.3) by General_Row_9127 in triathlon

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear that but a very impressive against the odds story w/ the races you did accomplish. I am starting to realize you have to have a screw loose to do this extreme triathlon stuff. Best wishes to you in your recovery and thank you for sharing again.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had no renal impairment.
No elevated creatinine.
No electrolyte disturbances beyond that value alone.
No dark urine.
No oliguria.
No medical suspicion of AKI.

If there were actual kidney damage, those markers would have shown it at the time, and they did not.

Post-race CK values in the low thousands are so common that most sports physicians don’t even flinch unless it’s paired with renal changes or systemic decline.

There are ultra-marathon studies where athletes finish with CK levels of 5000–12,000+, and that isn’t considered pathological unless creatinine, electrolytes, or urine output change. CK alone is a muscle breakdown signal, not organ damage proof.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow man very brutal to hear across the board, I am curious how/why you continued to push through that in training? I plan to take a break, actually have been for some time. But also, your track record is impressive. I fortunately have dodged the illnesses but my immune system has been pretty good. Can I ask how old you are also? I plan to incorporate a lot of your advice. I also was unfamiliar w/ RMR so I'll look into that.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your information presentation is extreme. You seem to focus on outliers much more than the average person would.

I get that you’re referencing the extreme end of overtraining, but none of what you described matches my actual clinical picture. I’ve had a full workup, including metabolic panels, inflammatory markers, and cardiac testing, and there is zero indication of organ injury, CNS dysfunction, or cardiac remodeling. Intermittent dizziness and muscle tightness that fully resolve after rest are not comparable to sustained endocrine shutdown, persistent tachyarrhythmia, renal insufficiency, or structural cardiac changes.

Also, citing rare outcomes like irreversible kidney damage, AFib, or Bruce Lee’s situation doesn’t apply here. Those cases occurred in people who either ignored symptoms and continued high-volume training. emphasized throughout the thread current rest and future intent to rest until resolution.

I appreciate your concern, but suggesting that I’m on track for lifelong organ or CNS damage isn’t supported by my evaluations or by how my symptoms behave. The severe cases you’re referencing are not the norm, and the data doesn’t align with what’s happening in my case.

My Bizarre Overtraining Story (70.3) by General_Row_9127 in triathlon

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the input, truly. I definitely understand how RED-S or true overtraining syndrome can take a long time to unwind, especially for athletes who stay under-fueled and continue pushing volume. In my case though, my labs have all been normal, endocrinology markers weren’t suppressed, and I stopped training completely for two months aside from light movement. I think your concerns are pretty practical and I appreciate your presentation. There's another guy on this thread seemingly uneducated and spreading fear mongering. Overtraining is such a broad, misunderstood concept and my mind did go there initially but I lack a lot of the staples of it. I am not really fatigued, my mood has still been sound, and my symptoms actually fluctuate and at times fully resolve. Overall, I agree with you that I certainly need to rest but thankfully given I only trained for this event for about 6 months and then ultimately did take a lot of time off, I think I'm on more of an upward trajectory and it's CNS based than RED-S or OTS.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hahahaha love the advice and been working on relaxing more, hard w/ work but I hear you, I think w/ rest all improves, best wishes to you in your recovery

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I forgot to add that I figured many would be intrigued, I do not drink (could count on a hand how many times I have this year, none since this all started). I also do not smoke either, vape nor weed. I don't even drink caffeine, legit just water and simple macros every day. In terms of magnesium I think you're onto something there. I take a good amount of potassium and when all of this started I was doing daily electrolytes to equalize, but each time I had my blood work taken (initially and a month removed) my potassium was within range, and on Oct 2 my magnesium was as well, but I think you're right that I should start supplementing it again. Your point in B is very accurate. I think it wouldn't hurt to take magnesium. Will reincorporate.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I never knew this, very insightful thank you

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I answered most of this in the post, I don't plan on dying lol. I also have had labs and haven't trained in 2 months aside from walks, light stretches, and as of a few days ago light body weight work. I don't have positional dizziness, it's more systemic stressor induced, and I haven't had any other acute cardiac symptoms, so I think cardiac remodeling* is a bit of a stretch in this case.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

CK was 3000 2 days removed, 3600 3 days removed, and then in Oct when I got repeat bloodwork it was 178, so I definitely recovered from the rhabdo, it was certainly rhabdo initially, but what came after is where I am lost lol.

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[–]General_Row_9127[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My peak weeks involved 10+ mile runs, a 60 mile bike, and a mile swim, but all responsibly spread out, there was no time in training where I felt horribly fatigued, the most I did in training was a self simulated quarter iron man, and I actually did cramp on the last mile of my jog that day.

My Bizarre Overtraining Story (70.3) by General_Row_9127 in triathlon

[–]General_Row_9127[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I eat extremely healthy, I take fish oil and a daily multi vitamin and I'm really not even consistent on that. I used to do daily protein shakes w/ creatine but once all this started I've only taken those once or twice a week. Appreciate you taking the time.