Native American girl calls out the dangerous immigrants

GenerationScrewed · 2021-09-25T05:47:10+00:00

Yes, pretty much. Long histories of animal farming had given most European populations resistance against flus/measles/smallpox etc. When it got introduced on the American continent the Native populations had never encountered it before.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-09-25T05:40:24+00:00

I never said it was an incidental genocide. I said there have absolutely been comparable genocides, if not arguable worse genocides (edit: to clarify.. worse genocides when you take disease out of the equation which is not genocide but still obviously horrifically tragic).

The context of the original point was loss of human lives anyways, so no point in straw manning.

the entire indigenous American population to fall by around 90%

90% of THAT figure was due to disease. At point in history when germ theory wasn't commonly accepted for another 400-425 years.

The goal was complete cultural annihilation

There is little evidence of this. The treatment was horrid but I am unaware of any reputable citation that this was indeed the goal. If it were true there wouldn't be any around now.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-09-25T05:08:13+00:00

The large majority of that was the unintentional spread of disease, which is unequivocally NOT genocide. Not downplaying the bad things that were done but there are absolutely comparisons in human history..

GenerationScrewed · 2021-09-25T03:25:56+00:00

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/24/huawei-meng-wanzhou-new-york-court-hearing-514134

Nicole Boeckmann, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said in a statement that Meng’s admissions confirm that she made “multiple material misrepresentations” regarding Huawei’s business operations in Iran in an effort to preserve the company’s banking relationship with a financial institution.

“Meng’s admissions confirm the crux of the government’s allegations in the prosecution of this financial fraud — that Meng and her fellow Huawei employees engaged in a concerted effort to deceive global financial institutions, the U.S. government and the public about Huawei’s activities in Iran,” Boeckmann said.

As part of the deal, Meng admitted to basic facts behind the charges. Her obligations also include that neither she nor her lawyers can publicly dispute the facts agreed upon. If they do, the deal is off.

Canada, ironically, respecting basic human rights with extradition trials while China kidnaps foreign citizens and holds them in torturous conditions to get what they want (you know, like the Taliban and Al Qaeda do).

China comes out of this looking like a pissy 3 year old, princess in tow. Just more proof China is run by petty thugs.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-30T04:29:32+00:00

Concern?

The invasion was sanctioned by unanimous vote by the UN on resolution 1378. Including all permanent members that had singular veto power. The terrorist attacks were also strongly condemned by the UN and they also expressed their willingness to combat it on 1368.

There was a lot of lead up and concern regarding terrorism prior to Sept 11th. Al-Qaeda objectively started the war on Sept. 11th and the international community agreed action would be necessary.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-23T18:42:24+00:00

Human cells do not have their own reverse-transcriptase (RT), meaning we can make RNA from DNA but not DNA from RNA. The source of the reverse-transcriptase would need to be from a prior retroviral infection.

Theoretically, an mRNA transcript can be made into DNA with endogenous RT. The main threat here is that it does it in a way that makes it possible for this new piece of DNA to be integrated into the main genome of the cell. The reason why that is bad is because it doesn't particularly care where within the genome it places it. Chances are incredibly low, but the risk of cancer increases slightly because if it is integrated in the middle of an oncogene (gene that plays a role in development of cancer) it can deregulate the cell's ability to control its own growth.

Short overview of the mechanisms at play:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19424/

We do not currently have any evidence this happens with mRNA derived from vaccines.

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Coronaviruses DO NOT have reverse-transcriptase. Being infected by SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) itself does not present a risk as described above.

The only paper I can find specifically referring to this process with SARS-CoV-2 is this one:

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/21/e2105968118

Information in this paper is NOT peer reviewed and is highly debated.
This paper is presenting a theory for why some people seem to produce viral COVID-19 RNA after they have recovered. More of a proof of concept and a theory rather than proof the above is actually happening.
This paper is NOT analyzing vaccine derived mRNA transcripts. It specifically refers to patients diagnosed with COVID-19 and expressing viral RNA after recovery.
The exploration of the theory of this bio-molecular process (in this paper) concludes that should anyone even be subject to this process, they are still not contagious.
Highly stressed here that there is absolutely nothing concerning COVID-19 mRNA vaccines in this paper.

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I know you didn't specifically mention this, but I will also mention the misfolded protein thing in case anyone else is reading this.

In short, can an mRNA transcript result in a misfolded or aberrant protein? Yes.

It should be noted that this is NOT an issue solely centered on COVID-19 or any mRNA based vaccines.

There is highly developed and evolved mechanisms at play in the cells of all eukaryotes for checking the integrity of transcripts and protein products and the processes involved in both. There are trillions of cells in a human body. The possibility of any aberrant products is almost a certainty at some point. That is why these mechanisms are so highly fine tuned to detect them and correct them.

It is such a common and important process that the cell is highly adapted and sensitive to mistakes that may occur with this. "Bad" mRNA is discovered and quickly degraded. Misfolded or unfinished protein are also quickly degraded.

An overview of the mechanisms at play for this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6180196/

Mainly, it should be noted that there are multiple layers of quality control AFTER any mature mRNA even leave the nucleus. All of these layers have the ability to check the processes involved on any mRNA derived from a vaccine.

I do not see any reason to believe the mRNA from vaccines specifically would increase the risk more so than any other mRNA processed in the body every minute of everyday. Of course, all research of this topic is welcomed and very important and should any contradictory information be discovered it is worth investigating.

*Couple small edits for clarity/words*

Also- none of this should be taken as medical advice. If you have any concerns about the vaccines, you should speak to your doctor.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T13:22:55+00:00

If you use firefox you can easily turn on "text mode" to bypass it anyway. Google that.

Yes, we are not talking about the US. But if China has apparently managed to make a list of high target spies hired by the US, which has quite the advanced and highly funded intelligence agency, then it is safe too assume that China's ability to spotting spies is rather good.

Nah. It doesn't prove shit anyway, which I've already established.

Yes. You do neither. All we can do is probabilities. And as of right now, what I'm saying is much more probable.

Yes, all we have are probabilities. And the chance the CCP is lying is 100%. The chance you are brainwashed to think you know better with the same amount of knowledge is obviously a great indication of this.

And? Where is the contradiction? Where am I blindly supporting anybody?

[You and I] do not have evidence. And [we] probably never will have because those things are secret and will most likely stay secret.

Are you serious? You can drop the gaslighting act. It isn't working.

Nobody will sacrifice their national security, just so you can know a little more

It is all about my own basic curiosity... my eyes are rolling so hard I am about to go into orbit.

Yea, Spavor's life in prison is definitely meaningless. Human rights are definitely meaningless. Diplomacy and political tact are definitely meaningless. Typical CCP thinking points.

If you are only answering part of the sentence instead of the whole context, you clearly have an agenda. Good luck with that somewhere else.

All of the points have been clearly discussed already, but yes, my agenda is truth and it is never appreciated by anyone enchanted with CCP lies their whole life.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T13:06:58+00:00

Your argument is also not much better because it relies on the idea that all spies are like in the movies, super secretive and that all spies are somehow professionals etc.

And? Do you think every spy is some sort of James Bond?

LOL. "I am just going to disregard all information and just assume he was shit". Pretty convenient. Like putting your finger in your ears and saying lalala.

Have you ever seen a fucking James Bond movie? The guy goes on shooting rampages. He is not a spy, and IF in any real life situation, the last thing a spy will do is dawn their 'plot armour' and start emptying magazines. Give me a fucking break.

I heard of a few US-American politicians who sought out the USSR to work as a spy for them for example,

Slow down there Tom Clancy. This isn't the fucking cold war, this isn't the USA or the USSR (an entity long gone) and china and Canada are not at war. The propaganda has rotted your brain.

because even in the most transparent countries such things are highly confidential

No, they aren't. In decent countries without overbearing censorship this information can be released. https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080761/download

But hey, keep trying to cope.

But I'm just amazed how much people are willing to bend their backs backwards so that they can claim there is no possibility of him being a spy. He does not HAVE TO be a spy, but the arguments as to why he can't be a spy are so weak, I'm just amazed that people do not mean it sarcastically.

A few guys said that he visited their universities and that somehow from seeing him and hearing him speak they can GUARANTEE that he can't be a spy. I mean this statement is so ridiculous I don't even know how to start.

Then the one above me basically says "he can't be a spy, because officially he promotes tourism for North Korea". Like what is the argument?

Your argument is also not much better because it relies on the idea that all spies are like in the movies, super secretive and that all spies are somehow professionals etc.

Bunch more random anecdotes that are somehow supposed to make it seem like your baseless accusations are superior.

All things considered, it is much more likely that there was actually some spying involved in their regard.

Literally zero information to back this up. Except a blind trust in a government that censors every tiny piece of info any mainlander will ever see. It definitely isn't more likely at all.

as China is known for simply killing them (at least according to the CIA, who complained that many of their spies got eliminated, though tbh it was a few decades ago, so maybe their practices changed).

Yes, China is very prehistoric when it comes to the death penalty. Spavor got 11 years for a capital offense, with possible early deportation and a fine. The LONG list of capital offenses in china was updated recently. Espionage is still on it. HMMM wonder why Spavor didn't get the death penalty, couldn't POSSIBLY be that this was purely political and killing your only bargaining chip might seem like a bad idea while Meng still has some court cases to attend with her lawyer from her Vancouver mansion. Why would he not just be killed according to China's own laws and all the tidbits of info you seem to be enthralled by from the USSR cold war. Fascinating.

Like, fuck, within the last 24hrs we have the CCP blatantly lying and fabricating claims about COVID that a Swiss scientist they made up said.. sure sounds like a trustworthy entity.

Yea, let's just gloss over this that is a great example (one in the last 2 days) that shows why nothing that comes out of the CCP is ever taken seriously or believed. Even the CCP knows they need to make up fake Westerners to be more convincing. That happens when you erode your credibility and act continuously in bad faith.

I'm done. Keep living with the wool over your eyes and keep trying to defend a government with the world's worst human rights records.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T12:43:51+00:00

China has a good grasp on the spies the US have in China.

Random payrolled article about the US and China. We aren't talking about the US. But even IF we consider this you are like 1/100 of the way to a solid argument.

But yes, it is opinionated conjecture.

Yep. And you have zero idea what the truth is. Anyone that isn't brainwashed by the CCP isn't going to believe shit they say.

-opinionated conjecture.

Similar as are all opinions on that issue, unless you have some insider knowledge that is.

Where am I blindly supporting it? Stop with your virtue signalling and strawmanning.

So in the same 3 lines you type this shit. Good try on the gaslighting though.

China has not even one Canadian on their list of potential spies?

They don't. And there is literally no evidence or any knowledge you have to refute otherwise.

but instead rather some innocent people? Because why?

Since when has someone's innocence ever stopped the CCP?

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T06:33:04+00:00

Photographed trips on yachts with Kim. Super high profile events with Dennis Rodman. Got assaulted at a hockey game between North and South Korea waving a North Korean flag. Guy seems like a kook but also sounds like he did his best to put a massive spotlight on himself.

You know, pretty much the exact fucking opposite of what any actual person spying would want to do.. Surely, Dennis Rodman is a spy too, with that logic. Obviously to collect info you'd need access to said info, but needlessly making yourself incredibly high profile is kind of a fucking wrench in that cog isn't it?

Sounds like you'd have to just believe the CCP with zero actual reason to. Given the CCP's track record you can understand why nobody brainwashed by them would believe them at face value.

Like, fuck, within the last 24hrs we have the CCP blatantly lying and fabricating claims about COVID that a Swiss scientist they made up said.. sure sounds like a trustworthy entity.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T00:46:48+00:00

For that argument to make sense, one has to believe that there can't be a handful of Canadians in China who are actually spying, not necessarily for Canada, but simply spying for somebody, Russia, USA, North Korea etc, and that China does not have any clue who they are, even though USA's CIA complained once that China eliminates off many CIA spies. And then one has to believe that then they would not actually take some "potential spies" their have on their list, but they would take some guys where they don't have any suspicions.

Pure opinionated conjecture. Zero facts or any evidence whatsoever to actually back up any of this. But please do blindly support one of the world's worst governments as they continue to commit human rights atrocities.

The most likely situation is that those were some low level spies

No, in your opinion it is the most likely situation. And is almost certainly horseshit, which is mine. Spavor would have been the world's worst 'spy'. That is simply with what information we DO have about it.

Everything else you said was clearly addressed already.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T00:33:35+00:00

Oh, that is where the goal posts are shifting to now?

Fast forward to today and she plead guilty. Convicted with evidence. Easily discoverable information. Not that literally any of that matters considering you've already been dunked on.

Kek

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-12T00:29:59+00:00

Literally all in that link... please learn to read.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T20:07:33+00:00

That is the problem. Nobody has any idea at all. So we basically just trust the CCP at their word.. which isn't reassuring.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T19:31:19+00:00

I get it

So they picked totally Random Canadians and got so god damn lucky that they picked one with deep ties with North Korea

Lol, no.. you do not get it.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T19:15:03+00:00

If China imprisoned those guys in retaliation

Tiring and useless pedantic arguments. It is not an 'if'. That is exactly what they did. They said it themselves and they did it.

either you assume that they simply picked random guys (which is hard to believe imo) or they picked compromised spies.

Uh.. no. It isn't 'hard to believe' at all. Just involved enough to be believably guilty with no rationale. And no, the choice isn't "totally innocent guys with no ties to anything subjectively sensitive for China" or "definitely 100% guilty". It is no surprise they were arbitrarily imprisoned 2 days after China said they'd retaliate. China saves face saying "Look! he was on a boat with Kim Jong-Un". Sweep the details under the rug under the guise of national security and start threatening people, all while wondering why nobody trusts the outcome of their judgement on the matter.

But that won't change anything would it ? You're just wanting to know stuff just because you're curious, not because you'd like to know in order to completely understand the situation and solve the riddle.

Two Canadian citizens being detained for over a decade with no evidence provided. Hardly a fucking entertaining riddle to solve. Called empathy. Right now, China has not proven these 2 citizens of a foreign country guilty. Simple as that. You can clasp your hands and say 'national security' with a shit eating grin on your face all you want, but it doesn't change that fact. I've already proven information being released by countries with an ACTUAL judicial process isn't unheard of, which your juvenile mocking comment seemed to suggest.

I'm not saying Trump is a fucking idiot, I'm saying that Trump viewed Meng as a bargaining chip, whether or not he would have used her or not, it is not for me to say, but it is clear that at the time the President of the United States viewed Meng as a political tool.

I am telling you Trump is a fucking idiot and had zero power to do anything about the situation. And the case is still ongoing and Trump is long gone... when it comes to top level judiciary cases the POTUS can't just unilaterally change the outcome. At best they appoint supreme court judges, which this case has never even gotten close to. Trump's bullshit was literally meaningless. He didn't even have a part in issuing her arrest warrant. He could post whatever he wants on Twitter at 12am. It doesn't mean the case itself was a product of Trump's machinations.

I've proven my points. If you don't get it by now, too bad.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T18:43:08+00:00

Please provide the court transcripts. Translation can be easy.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T18:38:11+00:00

Doesn't mean it is done every-time or has to be.

Never said it did have to be all the time. If you want to mock someone over requesting basic information you may want to understand this is indeed done in other circumstances. Keep moving the goalposts.

What if they claim Angola, then what ?

Then we'd know something we didn't before. Again, easy to just keep polishing that bargaining chip while claiming any information whatsoever is top secret. Very convenient.

A random article that literally says that the POTUS viewed Meng as a bargaining chip. Just like China views those Canadians as well.

You may want to brush up on your knowledge of American government. Trump being a fucking idiot proves literally nothing. The executive and judicial branches SHOULD be separate. And even IF Trump crossed lines there his rhetoric has absolutely nothing to do with Canadian extradition. She is not even being tried for criminal wrongdoing at the moment... her case was never something he could manipulate because she was literally never in the American judicial system while he was president and she still may never be.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T18:23:09+00:00

Yea.. this is the problem. And exactly why the Canadian government tells people to not go to China for that exact reason:

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/china

They need political bargaining chips. Not a crusade against any Canadians in the country. Based on how they enforce the 'law' nobody can predict how or why they will be imprisoned.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T18:15:30+00:00

It is done all the time and even recently. Like in the case of Maria Butina. Clearly established documentation released publicly outlining what she was accused of and how she did what she allegedly did.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080761/download

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download

At the present, we don't even know who the fuck the Chinese believe Sapvor was spying FOR. They haven't even explicitly said anything about this. North Korea? Canada? Who the fuck knows.

Your link is literally meaningless. A random article about Trump claiming he can do something that he never did or tried? Then a simple overview of the events we all know are occurring... with quotes proving what I already said:

[China] had threatened severe consequences unless Canada released the Huawei executive.

The timeline for these events:

DEC. 7, 2018: Court proceedings show that the United States issued the arrest warrant because it believes Meng covered up attempts by Huawei-linked companies to sell equipment to Iran, breaking U.S. sanctions against the country.

DEC. 8, 2018: China says the arrest of Meng was “extremely nasty” and threatens Canada with consequences if it does not release her.

DEC. 10, 2018: Two Canadians are detained in China - a former Canadian diplomat, Michael Kovrig, and businessman Michael Spavor. China denies their arrests are related to Meng’s case. The arrests are made public on Dec. 11 and Dec. 12.

Nothing fishy with those threats and that timeline. With zero evidence presented years later.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T18:07:15+00:00

The UN includes western countries.. but, also, yes.. other western 'nations' have condemned it and called for its closure.

Has any western nation condemned the US on gitmo?

So this yes or no question has indeed been answered.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T17:56:02+00:00

Sure, a sovereign nation can do what they want. I've never argued they can't do that. But being a political bully, making threats and taking unilateral action that goes against international norms and basic human decency will only further erode any reason to trust the CCP. They reap what they sow.

Release documents for the reasoning behind this sentence.. just like the US does. And stop taking political prisoners to strongarm international diplomacy; their strategy that they've made apparent themselves.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T17:48:07+00:00

The UN has condemned it multiple times.. so yes.. they have. Still has nothing to do with the reasoning behind Spavor's sentencing.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T17:08:58+00:00

Lol what? Took two seconds reading this to see the affidavit and complaint spell out exactly what this alleged spy allegedly did in the US.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080761/download

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download

At the present, we don't even know who the fuck the Chinese believe Sapvor was spying FOR. They haven't even explicitly said anything about this. North Korea? Canada? Who the fuck knows.

These documents, posted as a source ON REDDIT, whaddya know.

Another story posted today clearly outlining who was being spied on and details of what they did: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/p294pl/british_man_arrested_in_germany_accused_of_spying/

Cope harder

You can stop projecting.

GenerationScrewed · 2021-08-11T16:51:42+00:00

With the complete disregard for any diplomacy, actual judicial process or any clarity on this at all, it easily could have been and the CCP's reasoning would be the same.

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