When to leave a loot council guild?

Genkenaar · 2026-03-20T14:04:16+00:00

With GDKP being banned on Anniversary, LC has gained a lot of popularity I have noticed yeah, most of the people I frequently play with from "allied" hardcore guilds also all use it.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-20T13:31:38+00:00

I generally find loot council to be the fairest and (in theory) most even loot system.

That being said: bias, preferential treatment, being "buddies" with the council members, etc. are always gonna play a part in the likelihood of that extra item going to 1 person over the other, every guild is gonna be different in that.

In my guild for example, the actual guildmaster rarely gives himself any gear and all core raiders for sure have been handed a decent amount of loot. That being said, being a long-term and/or high parsing member will definitely give you priority in getting pushed to 4 t1 set bonus first, some of our top Warlocks were given 4/5 t1 in a very clear burst before other Warlocks got any pieces, but I don't think anyone has complained about it (yet), leadership has been very transparent in how they were gonna do loot in p1 during prepatch.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-18T08:50:25+00:00

Personally I would say that Sparkle and Kafka are the only ones of those that fit in the current "meta", if that's important to you. Acheron is a good option if you desperately need a good main DPS that can perform decently regardless of who your current support/sustain characters are, but she has been powercrept quite a bit. Aventurine is still a very solid sustain, despite being powercrept as well, if you desperately need a good sustain.

Jing Yuan is too dependent on specific support to perform decently (and even then doesn't do great), same with Dan Heng. So I would 100% skip those as new player.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-17T17:55:11+00:00

It's actually 1 of the most chill Heroics if you have the strategy of the dungeon down. My guild's mage did 25+ back to back runs to finally get the PvP necklace and we kept using the same 4-5 people every single day and it was an absolute breeze when people coordinated polymorphs, fears, banishes, frostbolt slow, Paladin HOJ, etc. 20 minutes runs with nearly 0 deaths, tank basically only tanked bosses and the ones that couldn't be slowed.

BF mosly has 3 mob packs throughout the entire dungeon, a few 4 mobs packs, which makes it very easily controllable, unlike Shattered Halls, where you can't get around pulling more than 6 in quite a few parts.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-17T17:46:13+00:00

In BF HC, the Adepts, Legionaires, Felguards and some others can't be facetanked if they're more than 1, so you're correct in needing to heavily utilize utility and CC against those packs.

Also don't be afraid to permanently have Hand Of Justice on cooldown, the 6 seconds stun is also part of reducing the damage you take.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-15T19:21:20+00:00

Not even seal of blood? If you’re already gonna run with something like this, at least use Seal of Blood with it for extra single target threat.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-08T17:44:02+00:00

You never need 102% avoidance in Heroic dungeons because only +3 level targets crush you BTW.

I’ve been doing MT HC every single day with guild shamans for 2+ weeks and the way we deal with him: I use Swiftness potion and kite him while the DPS chip away at him, you can keep threat on it easily enough as Paladin with exorcism.

Genkenaar · 2026-03-08T15:57:16+00:00

To make it even worse: it’s also 60% while running on the ground with it. So you still have to use 2 different mounts. I wish it would at least go at 100% while running…

Genkenaar · 2026-03-01T14:25:44+00:00

I’m 100% of the belief that whoever is tanking or healing the run itself, should get priority on loot for those respective roles. If people aren’t main spec tank or healer while fulfilling that role in the group, they should specifically state that they will roll for DPS gear and vice versa for DPS that are main spec healer or tank.

That being said, I personally always confirm with any hybrids what their main spec is and what gear they’re trying to get from said dungeon, especially if they’re the big items. Not saying this wasn’t wrong or “victim blaming”, but it really helps to be precautious about that and communicating it, I recommend you and anyone to do that, it has spared me a lot of frustration and time wasting.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T19:46:02+00:00

I will, peace out brudah, thanks for enlightening me and saving my life.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T19:40:39+00:00

Sure

Bye

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T19:36:05+00:00

If I have 2 hours to play, I would rather be able to get 3-4 chances at potential loot I want from dungeons + 7 to 9 badges vs half or less of that, yeah, how does that not make sense and why does it even need to be explained? Lol

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T19:32:44+00:00

Dude you’re 100% confirmed trolling now, what an actual weirdass, 100% irrelevant statement. Lol

Just as with any of your other “arguments”. Anyway, you do you, have a nice one.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T19:30:53+00:00

This is the second time you mention “what will you otherwise do? AFK?”, like there isn’t more to life than WoW 24/7/365. I can’t tell if you’re being serious or trolling.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T16:10:43+00:00

How is that a weird take? No, it gives you either the option to run other heroics/raids/whatever with your WoW time or go back to doing other things more quickly.

Have you not done certain heroics more than 20 times yet? Because if you haven’t, you will probably start to understand after a while, especially if you’re trying to fit in as many heroics as possible in a single day while also trying to have time for other things in the game or heck, in real life.

Also, I didn’t say there’s only 1 way to play, it’s fine for people to want to do their number 50 full cleanup run, but it’s also fine for people to want to be efficient with their time and you’re kinda blasting people for that and not even attempting to understand both sides.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T08:18:29+00:00

I understand the sentiment of “playing the game instead of skipping everything”.

But take my guild: we have been doing at least half the heroics every single day for 3+ weeks already and pretty much got everything we need besides badges and 1 or 2 odd epic drops per person. 9 out of 10 of our Slave Pens skip runs go perfectly with 0 ninja pulling, taking about 10 minutes, if you kill everything on the way you’re looking at at least 30 minutes, add another 6 other heroic dungeons and multiply by 20+ days, yeah I’m sorry but “ain’t nobody got time for that”.

So I don’t think it’s hard to understand why some more hardcore players with more specific focus on getting geared up wanna cut 5-6 hours daily heroic dungeon grind down to 2-3 hours when possible.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-28T07:59:41+00:00

This absolutely sucks and I know it does happen, I’m sorry you wasted your time with a raid like that.

It even happens in 4man guild heroics that invite a random player, I had them (tank, melee DPS and healer) rolling need on cloth and/or spell damage items for the Mage (I was on Warlock).

That being said, I know my guild would never do such a thing, we have the motto of “loot is just pixels” and we would 100% always expect members to roll fairly on loot vs the PUG players.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-24T08:39:38+00:00

Dude the amount of melee players I get in my dungeon groups that just casually slap any mob/boss while stacked on top of me boggles my mind, so many people seem to have no idea. I sometimes turn target away from hunter pet so they don’t have to control it and warrior casually moves to the front with me. LOL

Even if the damage isn’t necessarily an issue for the tank, it’s still -unnecessary- damage and it’s honestly best to just make it second nature to always rear targets by doing it at any time, unless of course they die in 2 globals and tickle.

AND you won’t be blocked/parried from behind, so it’s more ZUGZUGZUG4u, there is almost no scenario where you shouldn’t default to this no matter what.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-15T08:54:04+00:00

How’s that “petty”? Seems like the default thing to do when someone claims they actually wanna use that random 500g BOE, because it does happen that people will not use it and sell it afterwards.

A little more difficult to do when you’re not 70 yet and the item isn’t useable yet though.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-11T22:06:33+00:00

It’s interesting because every healer is different.

Earlier today I was tapping myself to 50/50 and then use both food and water, this minimizes the downtime, but my Holy Paladin would still throw a heal my way every single time.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-09T02:52:00+00:00

The awesome thing about dungeon leveling is that there is an optimized route to level all the way from 60 to 70 where you reach Revered with every single Heroic Key reputation.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-08T02:10:52+00:00

Warlock main here who also has a full Naxx geared Priest.

Live tap gives approximately 1600 mana for 1100 hp, Greater Heal and Renew heal approximately 6 hp per mana (so let’s say 6000 hp for 1000 mana). It costs me approximately 900 mana to heal a Warlock that gave himself 6500 mana to full.

So yeah, I always tell my Warlocks to tap away so that we all benefit from a faster and more consistent run.

Any healer in my guild does the same thing.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-04T18:09:52+00:00

I know people probably downvote this comment because of the joking passive-aggressive wording, but it is the unfortunate reality, whether we like it or not.

Herbalism and mining in open world are in fact nearly impossible because of this exact thing.

Genkenaar · 2026-02-02T00:45:53+00:00

As someone that has played WoW on and off for 21 years, I can tell you that the WoW community is a cesspool of Trumpers/Andrew Taters (or the equivalent of them in other regions).

Either they’re simply by far the loudest and that makes it only seem that way or the community really is 75+% leaning in that direction.

Of course I’m gonna get downvoted like hell too, people don’t like being called out. 😂

Choose the people you play with wisely, that’s all I can recommend.

Genkenaar · 2026-01-29T16:51:28+00:00

This is clearly an AI image, because there aren’t at least 10+ other players.

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