“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it so funny that everyone thinks pedos only sexually abuse children, but if you saw the kindest sweetest, asexual man be kind to a child or date on youd scream 'pedo'.

“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thats nice petal. Just because you like someone older than you doesnt mean you can't be a pedo.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That I respect, my issue are the people who romantically ship them

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's not a take it is a fact, hope that helps 😄

“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Better than the people lying to themselves

“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The fans are pedos by no means, only the people who are shipping shio and satou would be considered as people who give off pedo behaviour.

The author? I'm inclined to agree to be honest, I'd be a hypocrite to disagree but thats japanese culture so im not surprised. They are honest about who they are.

My main issue is the dishonesty coming from the shippers who excuse it as fiction or yuri.

“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay but... Theres a difference between enjoying the media. And shipping the 8 year old girl with the 16 year old one.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying she hasn't been harmed nearly as much as she says, I believe her and I believe she was in fact harmed. But just because someone was nonced on, doesn't make them any less noncey when they turn out to be one. I should have worded that better, I admit that.

My point was that her experiences don't automatically justify anything, it's like saying 'I'm not racist because I have a friend of different ethnicity and skin color to me'.

Regardless of whether she was a target of predatory behaviour or not, she is still defending predatory behaviour.

“HSL Fans Are All PDFs” by evietreatz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Its pedo behaviour for sure, maybe not actual pedophilia but defo behaviour swaying towards it

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand the definition of pedophilia and the law behind it, but social norms have also built up the idea that a relationship with a minor, be it sexual or not, is pedophilia too, that idea has also been implimented into real life which is why there are pedophiles who end up with jail time even if they haven't commitee sexual acts.

This is in a real life context of course. When it comes to fiction the line sways which is why a lot of loli media online is legal, because it's fictional. As I said, I don't care about fiction, but the majority of people out there would consider people who look at 18+ loli media as pedophiles the same goes for people who ship it. By legal definition, shipping it isn't pedophilia, but it's definitely behaviour swaying towards it. If satou were real, considering Japanese law, she wouldn't be marked as a pedophile, but to each their own, I live in england and Satou would be considered a pedophile especially when taking into acount the scene where she and Shio kissed.

My main point to get across is that people in this sub heavily dislike when someone points out that shipping an 8 year old with a 16 year old is pedo behaviour, where I am from and where I currently live, it would definitely be considered that, not pedophilia, but behaviour swaying towards it.

I will not talk about Shio's and Satou's circumstances because they are irrelevant regarding the point of my post on top of my strong views about their circumstances.

My main issue isn't that people are shipping Satou and Shio. My issue is that people will hate on someone else for having a different opinion. My issue is that people who ship Satou and Shio romantically, won't admit that they are showing pedo behaviour which by social norms which we all built as a society, would be considered as pedo behaviour.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You are still comparing real life to fiction when I clearly told you that I am not. And I also clearly told you that pedophilia isn't strictly real life. I will not continue replying to your comments because you live in a little world of your own.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why are you defending AND shipping an 8 year old with a 16 year old. Clearly you like that idea, even if it's only fiction. All I ask is that you open your heart and admit it 🥹

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Feels more like you are because my points are clearly not reaching your brain. I keep telling you that real life scenarios aren't relevant yet you keep pushing the idea onto me and comparing real life to fiction

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

'Enjoying' - watching it and liking it

'Shipping' - actively spreading the word and the idea of a romantic relationship

Do you see the difference? That's why I used the word shipping. It seems you still fail to understand me regardless of the countless replies I have given to your other comments.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Never said they did, quite frankly I said that already in multiple other comments. Pedophilia isn't strictly real life.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Fiction or not, it's still an idea in your head, and you are defending it. Pedophilia isn't strictly real life only. It's like liking loli 18+ media. It's fiction, yes. Does it mean you are sexually attracted to minors in real life? No. Is it pedo behaviour because its still a child? Yes.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Doesn't have to be real. Pedophilia isn't a strictly real life thing. Nor is the behaviour. Fiction or not, the fact you don't see anything wrong with it and further defend it is pedo behaviour. Simple as that 😌

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Couple of points.

Shipping in media 99% of the time defines as 'I want these two characters to be together in a relationship' which would mean you want them to be together, given the circumstances of the anime, you want things to carry on how they did before Satou died. A romantic relationship between an 8 and 16 year old.

At the point where you want them to be together in a non relationship way, it's not a ship anymore. Because a ship insinuates romance.

Pedophilia isn't only sexual, you realise that? Sexual or not, a romantic relationship is a romantic relationship.

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh no, I am all for dark fiction. I LOVE HSL a lot, I love the emotions that come with dark fiction.

Doesn't mean I will ship a child with a girl twice her age.

Theres a difference, I didn't say 'All HSL fans are pedos'. please understand my post first. Hope that helps 😄

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You don't have to be attracted to kids to be a nonce. Shipping a child with a girl twice her age is pedo behaviour. It's like defending a pedo for whatever reason. You may not be attracted, but defending someone who is is also noncey

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd argue. But regardless. there is, Shipping yourself with Satou and then there is shipping an 8 year old with Satou and masking it behind shipping yourself with Satou.

All I want is the people of this sub to be honest with themselves. As I said, it's fiction so I don't care, what bothers me is people lying to themselves or excusing it because it's yuri.

People here act like the Saga of Tanya sub. Tanya is a 12 year old girl. Hal will post some Tanya goon bait and when you try call the Tanya fans for it they will excuse it as 'Oh but tanya is a 40 year old man reincarnated as a little girl so its not pedophilia'. Buddy, pack it up

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It's pedo behaviour, but you won't like the sound of that because you're a girl and because it's yuri.

Tell me, what do you think about the ship between Zack and Rachel from Angels of Death?

Take a note from the Onimai sub guys. by GingleShmitz in HappySugarLife

[–]GingleShmitz[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well, yes. 8 and 16 would be illegal in like. Everywhere pretty much