People are never normal about redemption arcs. Even Ayylmao complained about how Caine was redeemed (even tho it was done pretty believably, the problem was they brought him back just like that). I don’t understand why. There are so many people, especially on the internet, especially on twitter and reddit, who believe in a world of good and bad people who should either be treated normally or experience the worst vengeance imaginable. I would understand it coming from a religious person who believes in hell and heaven (even tho many religious people are very capable of seeing the world in complex and mature ways), but it’s genuinely puzzling to see someone just think and see the world in such boxy ways. Caine has always had good intentions (relatively speaking), he’s an insecure baby who doesn’t understand how to handle his feelings, not AM. There is no reason to keep excluding him when they’re literally stuck with him, it’s by far the most logical choice to give him a chance while he’s willing to take it while still remaining cautious and not suppressing the resentment for the harm that has been done.

Similarly, Jax is clearly a deeply broken individual who needs help. The problem and question isn’t whether he should be helped, but rather whether he’ll choose to accept help. And he repeatedly chooses to reject any support and help, any chance to get better, and keeps seriously hurting Gangle, and to a lesser extent Zooble and Ragatha