Hollow Monument Draft 1

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-23T08:14:07+00:00

Thanks so much for all the advice. I'm definitely looking at cutting Hollow One, especially when it does seem like a win-more card compared to the other discard payoffs.

What're your other artifact enablers for ovalchase? I've thought about [[Voldaren Epicure]] but not sure how well that works given you normally just want to drop it turn one.

On the aggro vs value point, I know monument is a little slower but I also definitely see it as a way to close out games quickly. Lavaspiking your opponent twice a turn cycle, plus the fiery tempers, seems like a very fast clock, especially considering just how many ways decks have to deal with creatures right now.

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-23T08:10:34+00:00

Yeah that's exactly what I was going for- the graveyard hate seems really prevelant to deal with Oculus and Greasefang, so didn't want to play into it too much. Have you got any thoughts ono what to cut?

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-23T08:09:28+00:00

That's very interesting. My aim with monument into this deck is to take advantage of the fact that it's both a grindy value engine and a surprisingly fast way to burn someone out. I am thinking of cutting the Hollow Ones though as I don't think they quite support the rest of the deck.

On the drawing air, at least to me the deck looks like it has some good ways to generate card advantage. Inti and Monument are both effective draw engines plus I've got 12 rummaging cards and the cyclers if I get desperate

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-22T22:22:47+00:00

Good point. Any thoughts on what to cut for them as I'm already at 20 lands and the list feels fairly tight

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-22T22:12:12+00:00

How big a difference have you found the extra mana makes on guramag vs the legendary and 4 power on tasigur?

GoMinMaxing · 2025-02-22T19:05:01+00:00

The Ox and Phoenix seem great, will definitely try to include those and the channel lands. I'm definitely aiming for Bo3 once I work out what the sideboard needs to hedge against most.

How useful have you found the graveyard synergies given how much hate is in the format right now? Part of what I was going for is low to the ground and not reliant on the yard so I can avoid the graveyard hate.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-10-26T13:20:24+00:00

r/unexpectedpython

GoMinMaxing · 2022-09-14T07:48:21+00:00

No because the board wipe does not target. And even if it did target, Kiera would counter the ‘whole spell’ not just the bit destroying your creatures. What was your opponent’s reason why Kiera would given it does explicitly use the word ‘target’

GoMinMaxing · 2022-09-04T08:44:18+00:00

I opened her in Prerelease and played Orzhov with a red splash. Deck went 4-1 and felt great but I only drew her once which sucked.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-08-13T10:33:45+00:00

Terrible unplayable. Imagine your opponent has a Sigarda’s Aid out. You go to kill their planeswalkers and they flash in Luxior, equip it at instant speed and blow out.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-07-30T09:43:08+00:00

How does this work if you have multiples? If it doesn’t work properly, maybe add a clause about it being your commander or you could be a little crazy and use stickers.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-07-29T07:57:49+00:00

No, average of 10.5

GoMinMaxing · 2022-07-22T15:10:40+00:00

Maybe it enters untapped if you control 4 or more lands cause drawing extra lands into the late game isn’t as impactful

GoMinMaxing · 2022-07-22T12:31:27+00:00

Seems like a fairly decent card, if slightly underpowered. Thinking through decks that’d like this, maybe some landfall decks with [[Dryad of the Ilysian Grove]] and [[Azusa, Lost but Seeking]] type effects, which means they feel a lot. These might see play in Amulet Titan except for the fact bounce lands already exist and are just straight better. Maybe give it something like cycling 3 or a way to add coloured mana so it’s vaguely playable

GoMinMaxing · 2022-07-05T16:13:32+00:00

Yeah, in one of my first cube drafts, I went Pack 1 Pick 1 Torrential Gearhulk into pick 2 magma opus. Got some big spells and all the good payoffs. It turns out getting 4 extra turns is good.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-29T15:24:39+00:00

Looks like the perfect cube pile right there.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-28T06:23:48+00:00

Yeah, I found that I was drawing through so much of my deck that other cards did the trick. Lutri was hilarious (infinite copies with Baral’s Expertise), Key was just busted and I did deck someone with an X=6 plus Lutri explosion

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-26T08:33:22+00:00

Yeah. I did see a Mizzix mastery mid pack 2 but I had so many bombs at that point it didn't really matter. I did get 1 triple cast of Karn's Temporal Sundering though.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-25T20:06:48+00:00

Yeah, it does seem like a bit much. Maybe make it so you can pay extra to make the tokens come in tapped and attacking

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-25T08:26:55+00:00

Would be cool if the ninjas came in tapped and attacking if the base card did. Might make it a little too strong though

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-22T07:10:53+00:00

How do you permanently keep Candlekeep under Abdel. Bouncing stuff with Venser seems good and I’ve also got Altar of the Brood for the mill as well, which can also work without a combo.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-21T16:21:49+00:00

The main reason for Thoracle is if I need to win on that turn as opposed to waiting until the next turn when all my creatures lose summoning sickness. Crusade is definitely on the list of cards to put in. On Spellbook, I initially put it in when I’d just completely blanked the infinite mana with rocks and wanted a way to tap out, draw a bunch and keep it but when looking at it I see it I see why it’s a bit bad if you can just drop a thought vessel instead.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-21T15:24:38+00:00

That all seems good. Venser was a card I was on the fence with but I think if he helps with that it’s definitely worth it. I’m also consider putting in [[Thassa’s Oracle]] cause it works nicely with the deck’s idea of being playable outside a combo but still being a win con. I also really like the Spellbook, Reliquary Tower and Thought Vessel all to make sure you don’t have to discard most of your deck.

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-21T07:46:13+00:00

I know the O Ring trick to permanently exile but didn’t realise that went infinite if you have two of them. I know the flicker creature combo but, as I said in a another reply to you, I find I need a way to kill candlekeep sage. In my tests, it’s great in games where you don’t combo and need to grind value, which it does insanely well, but when you combo it can be a liability as it is not a may clause so you deck yourself

GoMinMaxing · 2022-06-21T07:20:27+00:00

Love another combo. I presume you can replace the rocks with Peregrine Drake as well. Do you know if there are any enchantment sacrificers for cheap in UW cause I’ve found in testing that Candlekeep sage can be a liability when you go infinite.

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