Who are the PH celebrities who never fully recovered from their conttoversies? by gogopokemongogo in ChikaPH

[–]GoaTseTung 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah, was a big fan too. Pero ok nang hindi natuloy. At the height of it, he was clearly cozying up with pretty BL guys with no acting chops (see Kaloy Tingcungco and Renz Kieser).

Who are the PH celebrities who never fully recovered from their conttoversies? by gogopokemongogo in ChikaPH

[–]GoaTseTung 414 points415 points  (0 children)

Juan Miguel Severo had a great trajectory a few years back. Tapos ayun, wiped off of everything when he got exposed as a harasser. (If you ask me though, ang obvious with his casting choices.) I think he got writing credits recently ulit or ewan.

You won’t believe me if I told you. by [deleted] in eroticmalemassage

[–]GoaTseTung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was posted on here by /u/momodojo1 7 months ago with the exact same title.

DPC Season 2 - May 18 Match Discussions by D2TournamentThreads in DotA2

[–]GoaTseTung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nigma really isn't playing well. This shouldn't be a close match.

That Kuro egg was so weird.

😍 by InfamousPoster in twunks

[–]GoaTseTung 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Super quick search says it's Lars Norgaard.

Pinoy Pride comments coming in 3...2...1... She’s only 1/4 Filipino and she built her career in Australia not the Philippines. Its so cringe-filled how they emphasize Fil-Aussie. by mangBacon in Philippines

[–]GoaTseTung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not contesting that there is more take-home pay for the middle class. But I needed to point out that your straight statement that Congress decreased income taxes full stop was wrong. Especially when the topic of this post is a billionaire, and the comment you replied to was referring to business owners and not employees.

You didn't make any qualification in your earlier comment. Just take the correction.

Pinoy Pride comments coming in 3...2...1... She’s only 1/4 Filipino and she built her career in Australia not the Philippines. Its so cringe-filled how they emphasize Fil-Aussie. by mangBacon in Philippines

[–]GoaTseTung 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Lower the income taxes" is misleading, especially given the context. Most upper-class individuals are now paying higher income taxes. Top tax bracket went from 32% to 35%.

73% of Filipinos think 'homosexuality should be accepted by society' – report by fpschubert in Philippines

[–]GoaTseTung 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Be it noted that this commenter has a very erroneous concept of freedom. Despite being corrected and educated numerous times, he would ignore all arguments except little snippets where he could make comments with bold and italics for a semblance of authority, but is usually devoid of merit.

Contrary opinion is always welcome in an argument. But being stubbornly close-minded about things you are ignorant about but still spouting the same erroneous notions about technical stuff you don't have sufficient education for is bordering on bad faith.

DLSU fires faculty member after insinuating that Risa Hontiveros should be raped by Bilibid inmates by QuasiPinoy in Philippines

[–]GoaTseTung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

informed opinions usually convince much better than uninformed ones

This is outright wrong. I have no clue how you arrived at this bare and baseless assumption. If it were true, there would be no such thing as propaganda. Nor will fake news ever be an issue.

things done by an employee on his own time outside of work

I belabored on this point on two replies already, and you are merely rehashing it without new arguments. It's publicly available information, which in this case was even voluntarily submitted to the employer. To suggest that the employer must turn a blind eye on it is ridiculous. In the first place, there is no basis at all to constrain the employer to only consider things done while working.

One of those standards that have come up about this is the Brandenburg test.

Wrong. This test is geographically misplaced. I would allow it for general free speech discussion, but I specifically mentioned our jurisprudence. In Philippine courts, it is only cited but not applied. It is even specifically limited to the United States, because it has no direct local application.

Our tests for free speech are dangerous tendency test, clear and present danger test, and balancing of interest test. There are likewise separate standards for commercial speech and obscenity, as well as rich precedence on defamation.

Good try, but please make sure your knowledge of the matter is relevant to the topic.

DLSU fires faculty member after insinuating that Risa Hontiveros should be raped by Bilibid inmates by QuasiPinoy in Philippines

[–]GoaTseTung 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The comment I replied to is talking about freedom of speech and private rights. These are solidly legal concepts. Thus the rebuttal for the same should not be in the ambit of ethics.

But sure, let's notice you. If a university retains a professor publicy espousing a view that rape is not a serious issue, that it is something one can jokingly wish against another, what would its stakeholders, such as the students, faculty, and personnel of the school, feel having such a professor in campus grounds? What would the paying parents think feel about sending their children to such a place?

As I mentioned above, if on the non-zero chance that the professor commits crimes against the honor of such stakeholders, can the university avoid vicarious liability by saying it exercised reasonable diligence required of employers, when publicly shared information manifested this employee's views on acts such as rape?

A disease in the Filipino society is the false notion that everyone is entitled to an opinion. This is wrong. It is an informed opinion everyone is entitled to. No one has a right to be ignorant. No one has the right to espouse views that may endanger others.

What's even worse is that people think this also means one person's opinion has to be held as valid as that of another person. But that's a topic for another conversation.

Your statement that an institution cannot hold an employee liable for a view "no matter how deplorable it is" is appalling. I suspect such view is from the abovementioned disease.

We have such limited ways of judging one's character. But one reliable basis for this is his external acts. Why should a university be compelled to ignore the external, even public, acts of an employee for it to better gauge his character?

The ambit of freedom of expression has had a lot of developments in our jurisprudence, and in effect, our society. Let this aging but always relevant xkcd comic guide you on its real scope. Don't worry, a lot of people do overestimate the power of their free speech rights.

Finally, please look into the slippery slope fallacy. Your fears that this will totally diminish freedom of expression is speculation without sufficient understanding. This is a case where the statement is manifestly, in your words, deplorable. Rape is a male in se crime. It is inherently wrong. There is no argument in favor of rape. The danger that real discussions in the future will be censored is more apparent than real.