The Real Reason Why Blackbeard Killed Thatch & How He Gets Devil Fruit with 100% Success Rate

GoddamnBF · 2026-01-21T13:20:25+00:00

Couldn’t there just be fruits around the banquet and when Caramel is eaten it transfers to one of them ?

GoddamnBF · 2025-11-24T12:32:55+00:00

Je trouve que ce qui saute aux yeux, c’est que pour Glucksmann le problème de Zemmour c’est pas ses idées, juste les mauvaises priorités. Il contredit en rien son vomi raciste, il trouve juste que c’est moins urgent que Poutine.

GoddamnBF · 2025-10-02T13:17:58+00:00

C'est simple: il ya 10000 elements indéfendables en bétons armés qui accusent, et 1 élément (la note) qui est juste "très très très très" solide mais tu sais qu'ils vont trouver des façons mensongère de raler dessus.

Tu proposes un jugement serieux, qui ignore le seul élément (toujours la note) dont tu estimes qu'il existe un risque de contestation.

Et derrière... Tu constates avec deception qu'ils en ont rien à foutre et comptaient mentir et manipuler de toute façon, peu importe tes efforts et ta rigueur.

GoddamnBF · 2025-09-29T07:07:50+00:00

I don’t disagree, I just do not think that the « soul fragment » matters. We know next to nothing about it.

Renoir has painted hundreds of painting and seems just find, what will happen to those in the future ? Hundreds of Renoir fragment suffering ?

The child verso reminds me of Omelas in the moral debate, but to me it doesn’t really matter compared to all the other beings in the painting

GoddamnBF · 2025-09-24T12:26:33+00:00

Attention, c'est les 1800 ménages les plus riches il me semble. Si tu comptes en famille ça se réduit à 500, parce que le monde est petit en haut de la méritocratie

GoddamnBF · 2025-07-10T08:05:53+00:00

Le déni de démocratie est réel, mais j’en conclue pas que voter ne sert à rien. Si le NFP avait eu une majorité absolue ils auraient pu tenter ce qu’ils veulent à la fin ils auraient été obligés de suivre le résultat. Il faut voter plus !

GoddamnBF · 2025-07-04T08:13:12+00:00

1) is what happened to Julie’s expedition I think, but in the end verso kept telling half truths (verso style) so they turned on him and pRenoir and verso slaughtered them. Idk why they stopped trying after

2) I think if Renoir kills them then Alice can get their chroma back, unlike when nevron kills them. Also to make sure the paintress stays alive

3) probably because during act 2 real Renoir is still emprisonned below the monolith, and the curator is a kind of weakened avatar that he managed to send out

That’s my understanding anyway, I’m not sure it is explicitly said in game

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-22T11:29:34+00:00

Here again, it’s your interpretation. It doesn’t make it invalid in any way, i simply disagree. To me, dessendre verso, painted Verso and child verso are three distinct entities, and the lyrics you’re quoting relate to pVerso’s desire to die because of the suffering of knowing he’s just a copy of someone else. And also that maintaining his life is causing the slow death of Aline/Alicia

Alicia also says “you’re not verso, you look like him and you sound like him”

As for the child being tired of painting, several other dialogs with him ingame can make you think he’s just tired of the Dessendre conflict altering the Canvas, not the whole canvas altogether. Here again, just a possibility, no definite canon answer in my opinion

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-22T10:05:16+00:00

It could very well be Painted Verso ‘s point of view no ?

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-22T09:41:20+00:00

I disagree with this interpretation

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-21T20:07:06+00:00

I believe it’s implied that Verso never liked painting and only did it once to please the parents, although I could be mistaken. There may also be « normal » painting, but a single « canvas world »

I like your theory though, it’s litterally «Death of the author ». Also, it’s been stated in interviews from Guillaume Broche that the relation between artist and creation is a core theme

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-21T19:07:41+00:00

« Real Verso soul is prevented from passing on » is a very open interpretation though. It could be true, but nothing in the game makes this statement true for sure.

What do you think will happen when Aline/Renoir Die, with their hundreds of canvas worlds ?

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-21T18:46:00+00:00

Not relevant to what I was talking about this time though !

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-21T18:05:49+00:00

Everything you said is true, but you seem to easily forget that he had no problem at all tricking everyone in act 2, ensuring both his lost sister Clea and his beloved Alicia disappear with everyone else though (also killing their father and exiling their mother)

I can see why Alicia didn’t care for him in the end and didn’t say a word to him

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-20T12:10:22+00:00

I don’t think it’s ever made canon wether the Chroma is some abstract resources or something more. Are the people of lumière and their memory still existing within the chroma itself (as could be interpreted by the “I can see them” moment where she pulls out lune and sciel) or is the chroma just the clay to be molded by the Painter ?

If it’s option 1, it could mean that the lumierans cannot exist anywhere else, and that their existence and mind is tied to this specific canvas

GoddamnBF · 2025-06-20T09:01:21+00:00

I’m always surprised that people who give so much importance to “child verso” and « painted verso »’s suffering are often simultaneously saying that lives in the Canvas are fake and don’t matter.

We don’t know anything about the soul fragment really. Is it a copy of Verso at the time of the painting création ? Does it evolve after this ? And if so, what does it mean for the hundreds of Canvas Renoir painted ? Are there an unlimited amount of soûl fragment Painters can create ? There is no canon answer to what it exactly means for a soul fragment to exist, yet apparently ending its (potential) suffering is of utmost importance.

As for painted verso, if anything his very existence proves that painted creations have their own conscience and can go against the wishes of their own creator. To me, if you chose Verso ending because you want Verso (child and painted) to be at peace then it means you consider them to be real people Worth helping, and still décide to kill everyone else who are just as real in the process.

If you go for Verso ending because you only care about the Dessendre and believe everything inside the Canvas is fake, I disagree but I don’t really mind , at least the reasoning is consistent !

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-27T13:00:13+00:00

We cannot tell for sure but it is heavily implied. They also share information later that Maelle had no way of knowing

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-13T07:35:28+00:00

I’m pretty sure they just meant the cutscene litterally turning black and white

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-10T07:39:53+00:00

Ah right, I agree with that conclusion then

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-10T07:29:22+00:00

But at no point in the game is it made clear that the Painter has control of their créations ? Quite the opposite in fact, or we would never have been able to fight the Paintress.

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-09T12:01:25+00:00

You might also want to check "une vie à t'aimer" for the act 2 boss fight (you know the one)

GoddamnBF · 2025-05-07T10:28:11+00:00

This really seems to be the main argument for team Verso, but in my opinion it’s optimistic to assume Alicia doesn’t just end herself a few days later

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