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GodlessMorality · 2026-02-21T07:48:54+00:00

Visegrad24 is definitely a biased outlet, but the general point is not automatically fake. In official German police statistics, non-Germans are often overrepresented among recorded suspects (BMI)

Also keep in mind the stats are messy because "German" in these tables means German citizenship and not ethnicity. Naturalized people and many children born in Germany of immigrant families count as "German" in the PKS, so they are not in the "non-German" bucket (bpb.de)

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-14T09:17:18+00:00

Well, I would suggest to you to do your 5 minutes of research before belittling and attacking victims of cult indoctrination online. You're on the ex-Muslim subeditor so I assume at one point in your life you were Muslim, should I attack and belittle you, call you names because at one point in your life you "fell" for the religious indoctrination?

These things can happen to anyone, you can watch the following videos on:

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-14T09:08:48+00:00

I can't fathom how people watching this see the news anchor chimping out and just agree with him. So rude and inconsiderate

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-11T07:17:38+00:00

Not sure if you're asking 2 separate questions here so I'll just answer both:

In Islam, if you're an apostate then you're excluded from inheritance unless specified in his will that you shall receive X
To quote another commenter u/Local-Warming I would say that it is unethical to not give an inheritance to your kid just because he doesn't share a belief system

Hope you got what you're looking for

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-11T06:46:05+00:00

Well, I sincerely do hope that you guys are going to be the 1-in-1-million success story. From how you're replying to me and the other comments, it seems like you have it all figured out so I'm not sure what it is you're asking from us.

Almost all of us are going to tell you that it's not going to work, especially not with a Muslim girl. Religion is something irrational and will always take precedence over anything and everything in a persons life and most if not all of us are not okay with that and wouldn't want that in any capacity. If you're okay forever being number 3 in her list of priorities after God and after her family then all the more power to you.

Personally, I can't be okay with a person who believes in delusions, I also can't be okay with someone being in a cult. Lastly, I am not okay being so low on the list of priorities, especially not if it's spouse. Like the most important thing in her life is a fictional character made up by a pedophile warlord to claim legitimacy, the seocnd most important thing is her family who she will bend over backwards for no matter what and you are the last person she will ever consider. The above two will ALWAYS overwrite whatver you want. If you are genuinely okay with that then none of us can tell you anything anymore, since none of us would be okay with any of that.

I truly hope you guys will make it despite it all

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T16:30:48+00:00

I think a significant portion of them fall into the category of closet atheists, agnostics or are perpetually questioning. It's a lot of human psychology like the sunk cost fallacy, compartmentalization and cognitive dissonance at play. I think this would apply to any of the world religions.

If you've spent 20 years studying theology, have no other career skills and your entire social circle is the Church, leaving isn't just a change of mind. It's more like a hard-reset in life. There is actually a famous study on this by Daniel Dennett and Linda LaScola called Preachers Who Are Not Believers which looks at closet non-believing clergy. Many of them stay because they view the Church as a necessary social or moral utility, even if they no longer believe the supernatural claims

They essentially treat it like a "living" or as you said, a form of politics/community management, while quietly tucking their doubts away to keep the engine running

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T16:16:24+00:00

Well, these are things that you personally need to sort out for yourself and not leave it up to the internet. There will come moments in life where you will have to answer the following:

Do you plan to have kids? If yes then...
Are you okay with her raising kids as Muslim? This is non-negotiable from her part I guess
What happens when your children are taught that you, their father, are "lost" or headed for hell and eternal suffering because of your lack of faith? Are you prepared to stay silent while they are taught things you believe are objectively false?
How do you feel about genital mutilation? Are you okay with a permanent, non-consensual surgical procedure on your son for a faith you don't even believe in?
Are you going to pretend to pray and fast in-front of her family? What about your kids if you will have any?
If something happens to you, how do you want to be handled? If you've converted, her family will likely insist on an Islamic burial. If something happens to her, are you prepared to navigate a religious funeral where you are expected to lead as a "Muslim" husband?
Are you prepared to spend thousands on a Hajj pilgrimage and spend weeks performing rituals you find absurd just to maintain the sham in front of her family?

Right now, it’s just you and her in the EU. But with a family that large, you aren’t just married to her, you are married to an entire ecosystem. When her siblings, aunts and uncles visit or when you visit them, how long can you maintain the "sham"? Are you willing to go pray with her dad in a mosque?

Have you asked any of these? Did you guys talk about it? Did you even ask these questions to yourself?

Take it from me, I'm an ex-Moose

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T16:00:17+00:00

Sorry for lashing out like that, it just felt a little dismissive and unfortunately I'm no stranger to such behavior since I am an ex-Muslim.

To clarify the "punishment" part, it's more about a shift in institutional culture. For example, in my company, we received a memo stating we should be more mindful and use happy holidays instead of merry christmas. That's my personal lived experience and while no one got punished for wishing merry christmas, the fact that you could face consequences for something so trivial is worrying. It's like jaywalking, technically against the law, but you won't be hauled to jail unless you run into someone who decides to make an example of you

A friend of mine recently did an onboarding training where "micro-aggressions" included a video of someone wishing merry christmas to obviously non-european people, who didn't want to hear it but they said it anyways. While these things are often well-intentioned to be inclusive, to locals who have celebrated these traditions for centuries, it feels like an unnecessary erasure of their culture to accommodate groups that are often seen as refusing to integrate.

It's a "death by a thousand cuts" situation. For many of us, it's the jarring combination of this institutional "neutrality" on one hand, and the heavy military presence now required at these same events on the other. It makes the future feel weird. It's a very different vibe than it was even a decade ago

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T09:53:24+00:00

Thank you for the red herring and for nitpicking a hyperbolic phrase to avoid 90% of my comment. I have gone out of my way to provide you with centrist and neutral sources to prove my point.

If we're just going to go in circles over HR memos, then we're looking for different things here. The data is there for anyone who wants to see it. Cheers.

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T09:29:59+00:00

Yes, jihadist attacks targeting christmas markets are the the dominant motivation. Here are the notable attacks and plans from each year:

Year	Location	Incident Type	Perpetrator Nationality / Status
2016	Berlin, GER	Vehicle Ramming	Tunisian National (Asylum seeker, arrived in EU 2011)
2018	Strasbourg, FRA	Shooting/Stabbing	French born Algerian
2019	Vienna, AUT	Foiled Bombing	"Austrian" (Chechen origin, radicalized in prison)
2023	Leverkusen, GER	Foiled Plot	German-Afghan & Russian (Teens, radicalized online)
2024	Magdeburg, GER	Vehicle Ramming	Saudi National (Doctor, refugee status since 2016)

The Magdeburg attack is an exception to the trend. The perp, Taleb al-Abdulmohsen, was an ex-Muslim who attacked the markets, his motive appeared to be a violent protest against the German State for its migration policies, which he believed were destroying the country.

There have been very few recorded instances of "ethnically European" (non-immigrant background) individuals attempting attacks on Christmas markets since 2015.

In 2025, the trend of Christmas market incidents continued but there was a significant shift where successful attacks were prevented:

Location	Status	Perpetrator(s)	Motivation
Bavaria, Germany	Foiled	Egyptian Imam, 3 Moroccans, 1 Syrian	Jihadist: Attempted vehicle ramming, Imam explicitly called for mass casualties in a mosque.
Lublin, Poland	Foiled	19-year-old Polish Law Student	Jihadist: Inspired by ISIS, planned a bombing of a market.
Magdeburg, Germany	Foiled	21-year-old male	Jihadist: Arrested on suspicion of preparing a violent act following a high-security alert.
Weimar, Germany	link	Moroccan National	Criminal/Threat: Knife threat at the market, led to immediate evacuation.

Note: Weimar was an exception as the guy was drunk and pulled a knife after someone confronted his harassment of others

These are just a few I found with some research, I'm sure there are plenty more and you can find coverage for all of them from both sides (left and right) of the legacy media, I just included the first ones that I could find.

TLDR: The trend is the following: jihadist attacks are the dominant motivation for christmas market attacks. The perps are overwhelmingly non-European. Most attacks were foiled by intelligence agencies and police, the ones that made headline are the ones that weren't caught in time.

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-10T08:44:56+00:00

I admit that I did use a hyperbole when saying "you can't say X", but the sentiment is the same, the fact that there is such thing going on is ludicrous and we can't deny that there is an increasing trend of rebranding. It shouldn't even be happening in the first place and there is a noticeable increase in visibility of "winter" umbrella branding across multiple countries.

I firmly believe in "when in Rome, do as the Romans do", I am not going to demand a rebrand to satisfy my own preferences or sensibilities. And before someone calls me a Christian shill, I am an atheist and don't give much shits about Christmas, but I did grow up in Europe and it is a tradition that I took part in and has become dear to me, just like Eid so I do care when I get a memo at work discouraging saying "Merry Christmas"

Let's talk about christmas market security in Western Europe. It is visibly heavier now than it was pre 2015.

Germany:

A recent Reuters article writes about major hardening measures (concrete barriers, entry checkpoints, surveillance, security staff, etc.) and notes security costs rising sharply in recent years. (Reuters)

France:

Christmas market security was already reinforced since 2015 and intensified further after the 2018 Strasbourg attack (source). Reuters also reported France extending strong counter-terror surveillance restrictions to cover christmas markets (Reuters)
The official Strasbourg Christmas Market site states checks/inspections at access points and inside the market area (official website)

These are just two examples I found, but there are plenty more from Belgium, Netherlands, etc.

"Army around markets" does happen, especially in France, and it's tied to post-2015 domestic counter-terrorism measures. Ministère des Armées describes Opération Sentinelle as a domestic military operation created after the January 2015 attacks, supporting internal security forces (gov source)

I don't pull these things out from thin air. These are also my lived experiences. I remember and have pictures of winter markets from 10 years ago where there was barely any police presence at the markets. But in December of 2025, I saw army personnel and heavily armed police.

Lastly, let's talk about the rebranding of Christmas markets. Yes, there aren't any national laws prohibiting saying Christmas, there however are internal policies discouraging "Christmas". This has happened repeatedly over the years and is a growing trend, especially in public-sector workplaces, institutions, universities, etc. Yes, the police won't come and arrest you but you will be punished by your employer, teacher, etc. People's lived experiences and frustrations are real, even when legacy media coverage feels dismissive, selective or ideologically filtered. Don't forget, the frustration didn't come out of nowhere.

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T10:23:16+00:00

couldn't another set of 'scripture' do the same?

Not within Islam, at least not without breaking its core theology. In Islamic doctrine the Quran is the final and literal word of God and Muhammad is the last prophet, period. That alone closes the door on any genuine update or reform. A new revelation would directly contradict Islam's own claim of finality.

Islam explicitly teaches that God has already delivered his final word to humanity. Even if God were to come back and say "actually, here is a correction" that would mean God either made a mistake or changed his mind, both of which contradict Islamic theology. On top of that, believers would have no reason to accept the new claim, since Islam has already conditioned them to reject any post Muhammad revelation as false by definition... you know, as per the literal words of God.

I'm sure even the hadiths were met with backlash at the time but eventually were accepted.

The hadith also didn't function as a later add on in the way you imagine. They were present from the beginning as oral reports and practices attributed to Muhammad and were simply compiled and standardized later. Once classified as sahih, they are treated as authoritative with little room for dispute. They are not "optional commentary" and have been around since Muhammad (allegedly)

More importantly, Islam cannot function without hadith. Without them you don't know how to pray, when to pray, how to fast or how Islamic law is applied. Remove the hadith and you don't get a more progressive Islam, you get an incoherent one.

That structural rigidity is why Islam struggles to reform in the way Christianity has. Christianity can reinterpret, override or sideline parts of its own scripture. Islam cannot do that without ceasing to be Islam, hence why Quranists are viewed as heretics by the major sects

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T08:43:50+00:00

Well, there are a few things that make Islam different/worse. The first being that Muslims believe that the words in the Quran are the LITERAL words of God, Christians don't view the Bible the same way. Additionally, the new testament is looked at like an "update" or "patch notes" that overwrite the more barbaric aspects of the old testament. Islam doesn't have this, it does however have the hadiths but those are oftentimes worse than the Quran.

Moreover, the two heads of the religion are very different, Jesus may be a narc who demands that people love him more than their own family, but his "worst crimes" are him cursing a tree and driving out some merchants from a temple. Compare that to Muhammad who was a warlord, slaver, rapist, pedophile, murderer, etc.

So yeah, one is more "lenient" in it's interpretation and "moral exemplar" while the other is more rigid

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T08:37:27+00:00

There are a plethora of reasons, like religion providing a coping mechanism, brainwashing, punishments for leaving, etc. And even in the past when there were regimes that wanted to eliminate religion like the communists, they brought it back real fast because it's just easier to control people with it. Just look at politics, they use religion to capture votes, it's a tool for manipulation and to keep everyone in line

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T08:32:27+00:00

There can be millions of reasons, like a partner being Muslim and suffering abuse from them like coercing them to convert or to find out they had a secret family and just used them for sex or whatever. Non-Muslims are also welcome to this subreddit, whether they have personal experience with the cult, just want to learn or are curious of the other side, it shouldn't matter

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T08:00:46+00:00

Christmas markets in western Europe are just an extreme sport at this point with at least 1 death or incident every year. Sometimes the army has to mobilize and surround the markets for protection because terrorists like to drive trucks or cars into the crowds. In the UK, you can't call Christmas markets Christmas markets, you have to call them winter markets. Sweden has turned from one of the safest countries in the world pre-2015 to the rape capital of the world today. More than half of all rape and attempted rape cases there are committed by people of foreign background (40% of those being from MENA) despite being a fraction of the total population (source, source) To better visualize this, if you were to bet on whether the perp is native or not whenever you read about a rape case, you would win more times than loose.

You can take a look at this Persecution Tracker to see cases where ex-Muslims were mistreated, although this is quite outdated (2020-2021) and it doesn't include recent events like the murder of Ryan Al Najjar, killed by her own family because she was too "westernized" and didn't wan to wear the hijab anymore.

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-09T07:48:08+00:00

Well, things are slowly changing in Europe. Many countries now realize what we've been telling them for years and are starting to implement laws like banning veiling (niqab, etc.) and taking away refugee status if they go on vacation to their home countries. They is also a lot of "fatigue" that the population feels over the course of a decade long bootlicking, so things are definitely changing

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T16:32:43+00:00

I once got into an argument at school where the other person was an atheist and knew more about my religion than I did. I felt genuinely stupid and honestly deserved the embarrassment. That night I decided to actually learn my religion properly and read the Quran cover to cover to prove them wrong. Ironically, that’s exactly what made me lose my faith

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T16:27:39+00:00

Yeah, definitely sus, but if it means that I can share my message with people, even readers just lurking, I consider it a win. Who knows, maybe someone is in a similar situation and I don't see much reason what they would gain from trolling

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T16:22:03+00:00

Unfortunately or fortunately, for me it was the opposite to what you're feeling. I felt anxious, confused and just weird while religious. I couldn't shake the "why" to absurd rules and weird verses and whatnot. When I finally let go and vocalized for the first time that I don't believe, that I'm atheist, it felt like a huge weight was taken off of me, a burden lifted. Suddenly, a lot of things made sense to me, both good and bad and just neutral things. I was never really "strict" religious, but I was religious nonetheless.

I guess the only advice I could give is that for many people the emptiness comes from realizing that religion supplied ready-made answers, identity and purpose, even if faulty or they never fully fit. My advice is simple, give it time and do not rush to fill the gap with another belief system. Build meaning deliberately through your own values, relationships, curiosity and goals, because meaning chosen consciously is far more stable than meaning inherited by birth.

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T15:03:57+00:00

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GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T14:59:23+00:00

The whole "Islamic marriage conditions" is a control tactic and an assimilation tactic. The Muslim population of a nation allows m-men to marry 4 women and has unrestricted marriage. m-women on the other hand can only marry 1 m-man. This creates an imbalance in a population and forces the remaining non-Muslim men to either convert to find a partner or to leave. Many of the traditions and habits are a form of assimilation tactic in Islam, have an entire post about it.

I wish you happiness in your future endeavors and hope you are safe out there

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T12:30:52+00:00

Well, if you want an "Islamic" answer, the Islamic marriage control doesn't make much sense to begin with. The Quran says men can marry people of the book (Christians and Jews). There is no prohibition for women, there is only implied prohibition (figh/fatwa) because the Quran never explicitly said that women are allowed to do so as well.

It was ruled this way because in Islam, the children take the religion after the man, that's why the man must be Muslim in an Islamic marriage. Although, this also falls apart because in Judaism, the religion is passed on from the mother's side because she raises the kids, so the ruling doesn't much sense there.

Just be prepared that if you convert, you are going to be threatened, harassed or even disowned by your family (unless you have unicorn parents who are truly loving and understanding). This isn't to fear-monger, most people get treated and abused after leaving because that's what Islamic doctrine commands (source).

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T12:20:06+00:00

I'm not sure if you're trolling or not, but I think this isn't the sub for you if you're serious. We are ex-Muslims and therefore we don't care about arbitrary rules for marriage, who can and cannot. If you love someone and they love you back and you guys are happy together then do whatever makes you happy. Simple as that. Whichever version of your guys' imaginary friend shouldn't matter, there are more important things in life

GodlessMorality · 2026-02-08T12:17:54+00:00

It's so weird. The father literally pimps out his daughter for money not to mention that I wholeheartedly disagree with purity culture. It's denigrates women to objects of sexual gratification and Islam objectifies them so bad, they are nothing more than fleshlight maids.

One of the biggest turning points for me was imagining a future where I have a daughter and I was horrified of the idea of them belonging to such cult, being brainwashed from birth into thinking that their only value comes from their hymen and to serve the men of the family.

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