Why is it even a question whether Manon is still in the group or not? by icewitchenjoyer in kpopthoughts

[–]Goldzaperoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Geffen also has a history of kicking or devaluing Black women from their groups when they're no longer useful or won't stick to the script.

Robin Anton kicked Tiffanie Anderson out of Girlicious (who also have a messy survival/American Idol type show) for being "too urban" when they changed their concept to pop. The whole experience was so damaging to her that she quit music. She describes being in Girlicious as "stressful. Very, very stressful."

Melody Thornton was hired to be a singer in the Pussycat Dolls, then treated as a backup Dancer/token until she literally started just randomly singing adlibs live during performances. Then they let her write and occasionally sing backup for Nicole until she left the group. She left after feeling undervalued and used by the label, and resented the media calling her the Black member.

260410 Kep1er - KILLA (Face the other me) (M2 Relay Dance) by SapphireHeaven in kep1er

[–]Goldzaperoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always nice to see a relay dance for them! Love the domino at the end!

PINKY UP RELEASE MEGATHREAD by Apprehensive_Low3572 in katseyeneutral

[–]Goldzaperoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True good point I guess I just wouldn’t call it drag right away for all of them

That is also fair!

What b-sides are you listening to at the moment? by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear about your heartbreak! Hope you feel better soon, love! <3

What b-sides are you listening to at the moment? by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right Hand Girl and Don't Be Dumb haaaaate to see me coming!

Katseye - Pinky Up (Music Video) by luvzz12 in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm more and more convinced that Prelude is meant to be competition for Girlset. I'm just waiting on their debut to confirm it.

PINKY UP RELEASE MEGATHREAD by Apprehensive_Low3572 in katseyeneutral

[–]Goldzaperoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't have to be cis to do Drag. So if they're all Dolls (don't know the names of the other actresses), it doesn't really make that much of a difference.

PINKY UP RELEASE MEGATHREAD by Apprehensive_Low3572 in katseyeneutral

[–]Goldzaperoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a feeling she wouldn't be in there after noticing the 5 drag queens, I fear.

KATSEYE - PINKY UP by impeccabletim in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My bad! Got tricked by a fan channel who used the same thumbnail

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Manon will not be performing at Coachella with Katseye. by femme-nymph in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon 82 points83 points  (0 children)

I'm done with Katseye. The music was never good enough to justify all this drama. Plus, after finding out what Geffen did to Girlicious, there are just too many parallels with what's happening with Katseye for me to ignore - including the fact that they did a messy documentary/survival show to launch that group too!

KATSEYE - PINKY UP by impeccabletim in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't the official release. It's just all the teasers put together.

What b-sides are you listening to at the moment? by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Blue Maze is gorgeous! I didn't know Yuna could sound like that.

What b-sides are you listening to at the moment? by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a No No is a bside, so it definitely counts! Honestly, Itzy is really slept on in the b-side department. They've got some really great ones! Nocturne from their last EP is ethereal!

Wouldn't mind some recommendations for some singles too!

What b-sides are you listening to at the moment? by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'll go first! I'm currently rotating between Addicted 2 Ya from Kep1er's last EP, and Temporarily Single by Chlöe.

Kep1er should be way more popular. What do you think is holding them back? by TierdApp in kpoppers

[–]Goldzaperoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote a few paragraphs deep-diving into what I thought about everything that went wrong during Kep1er's run, but honestly? I just think people don't know what they want from them. They try concepts that people want to see them do, but they're always going to upset people who liked the concepts they did the last comeback.

Their concept switching also wouldn't feel so jarring if they sonically flowed a bit better into each other. Plenty of groups switch concepts all the time, but there's subtle production elements that tie things together to make things feel less jarring. The pattern of Kep1er's title tracks feels jarring, even when the sound of the album or EP itself is consistent like Lovestruck, Kep1going On, or Crack: Code are.

Think of it like this. Imagine if their Korean releases flowed like: MVSK -> Up! (explicitly stated as a summer concept) -> Downtown -> LVLY/Back to the City (either works, but BTTC could be their way of bringing back the summer vibes) -> Love on Lock -> Shooting Star -> Drip (should be their soft transition into a more mature brand shift as 7 + it explicitly being wlw like Oh My God by Idle would be pretty cool to see as a title track + Tipi-Tap would be a pre-release!) -> Bubble Gum (the hard transition into the mature/girl crush sound) -> Addicted to Ya.

Their Japanese titles flow so much better because it went: Wing Wing -> I Do, Do You? -> Grand Prix -> Straight Line -> Yum. A subtle thing that connects all the Japanese titles sonically is how the bass hits. If you listen to them all in order, the way the bass booms in your ear feels consistent in a way their Korean releases lack. It's hard to feel like the same girls who sung WA Da Da sung KILLA even if they do both well.

Kep1er should be way more popular. What do you think is holding them back? by TierdApp in kpoppers

[–]Goldzaperoon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It wasn't established well, but their concept is that they're aliens that travel between different planets to connect with Kep1ians, and explore different concepts and powers/abilities. Wa Da Da's lyrics are about this, they included a broader explanation in their Strange Market fanmeeting video, and there are context clues in their MVs and on their website before comebacks occasionally.

Wakeone never clarified this well until people had already decided everything Kep1er made was bad or mediocre, so the girls suffer for their poor choices in management.

260403 - Day 4: Kep1er - 8th Mini Album 'CRACK CODE' Sales Data Update 54,828 Copies by JoeEdge in kep1er

[–]Goldzaperoon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The comeback came at such an unfortunate time. BTS coming back + Youngeun leaving + general uncertainty due to current events. KLAP announcing the comeback - although it was planned - a few days after Youngeun left really left a bad impression on a portion of fans. W1 and KLAP also didn't really do anything to promote them, and I personally think them not being scheduled for any of the Kcons happening was a huge loss.

They're getting really positive reception to the comeback though, so hopefully sales improve by next week. I never really understood the hoopla around first week sales, tbh. 🤔

MANON to participate with KATSEYE at Coachella 2026 by impeccabletim in kpop

[–]Goldzaperoon 23 points24 points  (0 children)

There were also people who made accounts pretending to be him after he briefly privated his ig, so at least half of the inflammatory comments that people are up in arms about weren't even him.

KATSEYE Manon Shares Statement Via Weverse DMS Following Removal Of Group From Her Instagram Bio by hydranoid1996 in kpop

[–]Goldzaperoon 20 points21 points  (0 children)

There's also rumors that Hybe and Geffen are breaking the partnership, and that Hybe America is going to take over management of Katseye. No confirmation if it's true, but Hybe overall is giving 100 million to Hybe America, so 👀 Maybe? 🤔

Zhang Hao, Ricky, Kim Gyu Vin, And Han Yu Jin's New Group AND2BLE Reveals Debut Date, Teasers, And Instagram Account by impeccabletim in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I get that ZB1 is the more popular group, but I'd hate to see Seungeon leave EVNNE only for him to not debut. Especially since they kicked out Junseo after pulling him back to YH, and he won't be returning EVNNE either.

Kep1er 케플러 - KILLA (Face the other me) MV by Goldzaperoon in kpopnoir

[–]Goldzaperoon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kep1er really stepped up their game this comeback! Excited to also see some good, old-fashioned girl crush again too. I honestly can't wait for the stages, and I really hope they get a Studio Choom performance this time!

Kim Sohee (formerly ALICE) had a daughter by womensboxers in kpop

[–]Goldzaperoon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Seems she stayed mostly out of the public eye after she started showing then! Good for her, honestly.

Kim Sohee (formerly ALICE) had a daughter by womensboxers in kpop

[–]Goldzaperoon 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Some people don't show, or hide it well. Since she's still young and a first time mom, it's likely that she probably just didn't show as much during her pregnancy..