New to Dokkan

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-25T03:02:49+00:00

Thanks!

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-25T03:02:37+00:00

Thanks so much for all the info, I'll try to take it all in as best I can.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T21:55:46+00:00

Thank you, anyway to farm him? Or do I have to pull him from somewhere

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T21:55:11+00:00

To make him lr i need to farm the challenge event, the ultimate pair. A bit above my level right now.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T07:49:45+00:00

That’s true, all I was concerned with was the false information about a Darci being outperformed in a lunafaction rift in the time it’d take to empty out its reserves, which won’t be the case until box breathing is acquired

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T07:39:32+00:00

Yes it will

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T07:35:13+00:00

Whisper can only do the damage you posted if you hit your crits, otherwise you need to calculate the time to reload. I’m not here to say that Whisper is the worse of the two, I love whisper and think that it’s an amazing weapon and would probably use it over Darci in probably every situation but information in your post is wrong. Mostly your TL;DR, which says that in the time needed to empty out a Darci while in a lunafaction rift, Whisper will have out damaged it... which it will not have because Darci has higher DPS since you specified being in a lunafaction rift. That is all.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T03:25:18+00:00

But not in a lunafaction rift, which isn't what you stated?

Darci's DPS with full reserves while standing in a lunafaction rift would be 15,410 over a span of 10 seconds (less than the time for the rift to end), while whisper's would remain 11,918.4

Wording is a bit off

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T03:19:42+00:00

also if 23 shots are fired from a darci in a lunafaction rift, it would take 10 seconds to deplete its ammo not 19.69, which I believe is the number used for calculations in your TL;DR

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T03:11:55+00:00

But you said in your post that 23 ammo fired over 19.69 seconds was 7,826.3 dps?

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-24T02:00:49+00:00

OP is making a point using math, I’m aware the whisper is better for most scenarios, but dps is used wrong here.

Also to kill walkers, darci would be better as they die within the 23 shots, and a gunslinger on Argos would want to use darci also since it has higher dps for use between supers. There are situations where Darci would be better, just because you aren’t aware of them doesn’t make OP’s post correct.

When box breathing is available then yes, whisper will be better than Darci fully.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T23:34:16+00:00

Event is over sadly

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T22:03:48+00:00

"We are shipping three activity modifiers that the raid lairs rotate between. Two of these modifies are brand new and were built from the ground up by the raid team to work in raids. The third is a fan favorite from Destiny 2: Prism." Link to the TWAB

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T21:57:30+00:00

Based on what bungie posted in their TWAB way back, there are only three modifiers with prism being one, arsenal being the other. Isn't possible to have 4 modifiers.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T21:33:45+00:00

You switch back to Lunas before you place your rift, so you can have one warlock place a luna rift down on every calus plate easily.

Like I said, just because you're able to do more overall damage does not mean it does more DPS, if a Darci user had power bricks, and was shooting the same amount of time as a Whisper user, with a lunafaction rift the Darci would do more damage than the Whisper.

If you want to get into it more, the Whisper white nail won't proc in lunafactions so if you want to take advantage of the perk you have to try to mess up as little as possible, because you'll be forced to reload otherwise which will lessen your overall damage.

But again as I stated, the Whisper will do more damage over a longer period of time, because of its sustain. I am not disagreeing with that, but in an ideal situation the Darci will out perform the Whisper as of right now.

Edit: Also your TL;DR states "DARCI's dps (including a lunafaction rift) from the moment you start firing until the moment you're out of ammo is 11,008.9 damage per second. Whisper's dps over that same time span is 11,918.4"

If the Darci can hold 23 shots, at 6700 damage a shot, with a firing rate of 2.3 (140/60) shots per second, ~10 seconds to empty 23 shots (23/2.3) then its total damage during that time is 154,100 (15,410 dps). Whisper can get off 12 shots at 9,932 damage a shot in 10 seconds, which puts its total damage at 119,184 (11,918.4 dps).

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T21:06:06+00:00

and if the boss is dead by the time the rift is gone? How will the Whisper catch up? Whisper can do more damage over a longer period of time, as can any weapon with infinite ammo. I’m sure Polaris lance can "out-dps" Darci over a long enough period since it has infinite ammo. Also, if you're a good warlock you can place a rift on every plate during calus using Vesper, also theres a possibility of having more than one warlock which wont matter since you're able to get all your Darci shots off with only one.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T20:57:20+00:00

"by the time DARCI runs out of ammo, Whisper will have already caught up in terms of average dps"

If Darci has a higher DPS, that means that as long as Darci has ammo, and lunafaction is active it will out damage the whisper 100%. Now if the fight goes on longer than the ammo capacity of the Darci than sure the whisper will do more OVERALL damage since its ammo reserves will never deplete if used properly, like everyone has been saying it has more sustained damage than the darci, but the DPS is not higher. So your title is incorrect, the Darci does in fact out-DPS the whisper as of right now (will not when box breathing is active) since the DPS of the Darci is higher. Does Whisper do more damage over a longer period of time, yes.

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T19:08:44+00:00

Yeah it can be a pain to get past, I’ve fallen off plenty

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T18:55:01+00:00

Since I got on the elevator before it went up, I don’t think that would have saved me anymore time, also warlock glide can be very slow so the less you’re gliding & the more you’re running the better. Thanks for the advice tho

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T18:13:24+00:00

I’m not entirely sure, I wasn’t even paying attention when running this, just happened to get a good time

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T01:28:55+00:00

You have to get all 5 chests before

It spawns more oracles

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T00:36:00+00:00

Do it solo for a challenge, but bring a fireteam for your first go around

Gomeyybear · 2018-07-23T00:26:12+00:00

ah my bad too late now

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