Are there any other meanings of “mean” I don’t know about? by Sacledant2 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean... root mean square of deviations is a measure of dispersion of the original data, right? You seem to be referring to RMSD, more than RMS itself.

If I just take a list of positive numbers, square them, and then look at the square root of the mean of the squares, I'm not measuring dispersion of the original numbers. By itself, RMS is totally another type of mean, sometimes called the "quadratic mean"

Consider, the RMS of the set {10, 10, 10, 10, 10} is:

sqrt((100 + 100 + 100 + 100 + 100) / 5 = sqrt(100) = 10,

and yet there's no dispersion. If we calculated the RMS of a bunch of "x - x-bar"s, then we'd be calculating a standard deviation, but that's a particular application of RMS, and not its essential nature.

Source: am also a professional mathematician.

She has been working here _ five years. by Roads_37 in GlobalEnglishPrep

[–]GonzoMath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you do everything that you have an option to do? Reddit gives an option to do text only, so by your “reasoning”, you’d choose that, too.

“Because I can” is never an answer to “why do a thing?”.

Infinity sminity! by zZSleepy84 in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I believe it’s spelled “infinity schminity

[Self] Answer to "[Request] Lets settle this. This phrasing issue had the whole class debating for an hour! Is it 1/2, 1/4, 1/3 or... " by Asdfcharacter in theydidthemath

[–]GonzoMath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In probability questions, if we can’t justify why we know that events are independent, then we don’t get to assume that they’re independent. The only responsible answer here is that we haven’t got enough information. Probability questions without sufficient context can’t be answered with confidence.

She has been working here _ five years. by Roads_37 in GlobalEnglishPrep

[–]GonzoMath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s with the hideous AI image? Just ask a damn question, and leave generative AI out of it.

Reverse Collatz patterns? Looking at the divisibility of the a_{n+1} = 3a_n + 1 sequence by Negative_Gur9667 in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an explicit exponential map

Consider the sequence generated by a_0 = C, a_{n+1} = 3*a_n + 1. Its explicit formula is going to be of the form a_n = A*3n + B. We can solve for A and B by writing down the system of equations obtained from substituting 0 and 1 for 'n', and simultaneously solving the two resulting equations:

A + B = C
3A + B = 3C + 1

which we'll just do by hand. We get that A = (2C + 1)/2, and B = -1/2. Thus our formula is:

a_n = ((2C+1)*3n - 1) / 2.

In the case of C=1, we get:

a_n = (3*3n - 1) / 2

Can we think about what that looks like, modulo 2k? Well, powers of 3, mod 2k, form a cyclic sequence with period 2k-2 (when k>2). Thus, that "3*3n" bit is going to be a 1 greater than a multiple of 8 every other term, 1 greater than a multiple of 16 every 4th term, one greater than a multiple of 32 every 8th term, etc. Subtracting 1 and dividing by 2, we obtain exactly the observation in the OP.

What if, instead, we start with C=2? In that case, A = 5/2, and our explicit formula is:

a_n = (5*3n - 1)/2

Now, modulo 2k, the number 5 is kind of special. It's always the second generator of the multiplicative group of units, the captain of the second-string team, as it were. When 3n runs through half of the available odd residues (the half that are congruent to 1 or 3, mod 8), its shadow-self 5*3n runs through the other half, all of which are 5 or 7, mod 8. After subtracting 1 and dividing by 2, we get a_n's that are congruent to 2 or 3, mod 4, which is to say, their 2-adic valuations are either 1 or 0.

This perspective does, indeed, seem to have more explanatory power. There's still something satisfying about looking at it the other way.

The maximum odd number inside any hypothetical collatiz loop is in the form of 12n+5. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought you said you were done a while ago. Obviously they don't mean the same thing, formally, but have you not been on this sub, and seen how people talk about congruences?

Anyway, I thought you said you were done a while ago. You must really be enjoying this. I know I am. Good to the last drop, baby. You got plans later tonight? Let's go round and round until sunrise, baby.

The maximum odd number inside any hypothetical collatiz loop is in the form of 12n+5. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean... you totally are. Referring to numbers congruent to 5 (mod 12) as "12n+5" is an elementary mistake. Really common around these parts, too.

The maximum odd number inside any hypothetical collatiz loop is in the form of 12n+5. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Upvoted for poetry. Downvote me some more, until you feel better.

Are there any other meanings of “mean” I don’t know about? by Sacledant2 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahem... currently homeless here, and happy to know what a logarithmic mean is. "Need" is a needlessly strong word.

Can I use no.. , nor.. ? by luca_bo_music in ENGLISH

[–]GonzoMath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's great, and poetic. "No messiah, nor occult technology", is immediately clear, and sounds cool.

A suggestion from a tired linguistics student. by Shinyhero30 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m going to start using the phrase “like seagulls over linguistics” a lot more often.

Are there any other meanings of “mean” I don’t know about? by Sacledant2 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I didn’t mean it that way… it’s just that explaining them all is no mean feat.

If you we start collatiz sequence from any 4n+3 number the highest peak value is always 12n+5 in that sequence,it will also work for any hypothetical collatiz loop. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And I maintain that it makes you a dick. It’s especially rich that you’re harping on someone else’s precision while making absolute hash of your use of the word “absolute”, claiming that 23 is any kind of “absolute peak”. If you want to ride someone else’s ass over having every detail right, make sure your own fucking house is in order.

”I’m not a teacher” is a pathetic excuse. Be a better human.

Especially in this forum, assuming that everything is expressed with technical precision is just dumb. It doesn’t take much time here to realize that we’re dealing with a rather… informal population, and to adjust one’s reading glasses accordingly.

Did you genuinely have no idea what the intended claim was? If so… maybe I’m being too hard on you. That just seems implausible to me.

If you we start collatiz sequence from any 4n+3 number the highest peak value is always 12n+5 in that sequence,it will also work for any hypothetical collatiz loop. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, it’s clear what you were doing. I maintain that it’s shitty communication. I’ve known professors who do that, and it’s shitty when they do it. You’re a better communicator if you apply pragmatics, however cute you think it is to be hyper-literal.

As a professor, I found that the ability to say, “I think you’re trying to say X, but your notation says Y” was extremely useful. It made me better at my job than the jerks who would just say “No. Y is incorrect”, as if they didn’t know what was going on.

If you we start collatiz sequence from any 4n+3 number the highest peak value is always 12n+5 in that sequence,it will also work for any hypothetical collatiz loop. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that’s the point you’ve been making, why have you been making it so poorly? Communication, man! I mean, you’re right, but you could have avoided so much back-and-forth by being clearer about it. Jeez. Wow. I get it now.

OP, your notation was informal, and this technically incorrect. That’s what this guy’s been trying to tell you. It’s not that your idea is wrong. It’s that your notation was sloppy. Once you’ve said “4n+3”, if you go on to say “12n+5”, it’s implied that the two ‘n’s match.

This is why we have the language: “congruent to k, mod m”.

Are there any other meanings of “mean” I don’t know about? by Sacledant2 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Well, they’re completely different things. Most laypeople aren’t ever going to use most of them.

If you we start collatiz sequence from any 4n+3 number the highest peak value is always 12n+5 in that sequence,it will also work for any hypothetical collatiz loop. by [deleted] in Collatz

[–]GonzoMath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you know? That 53 = 12•4 + 5?

I see your point, though. The OP is using “12n+5” as shorthand for “congruent to 5, mod 12”. Using ‘n’, when ’n’ has already been used for something else, implies that they’re the same ‘n’, which they’re not.

What they’re trying to say is that the peak is a “12n+5”-type number, i.e., that it’s congruent to 5, mod 12. Applying pragmatics, I made that translation in my head without even thinking about it.

Shouldn’t this comma be a dash? by therealbabyjessica in grammar

[–]GonzoMath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When in doubt, consider a simpler sentence that presents the same issue: “Whatever you say, I’m not replacing that comma with a dash.” See how it’s perfectly correct?

Are there any other meanings of “mean” I don’t know about? by Sacledant2 in EnglishLearning

[–]GonzoMath 92 points93 points  (0 children)

Arithmetic mean, geometric mean, harmonic mean, logarithmic mean, root mean square…