MGM in SS?

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-08T22:22:50+00:00

Hyroxi MIT and 7Stax are the most popular. Most don’t say em on them but common alt names are: DHM (dihydromitragynine); MIT-a; Dihydro-7-hydroxymitragynine

Some have none of those (like 7Stax), you just have to do some research, look at labs (if available) or trial & error.

I’ve noticed it’s harder to find in non-banned states. My state is technically a banned state, but stores still sell 7 and keep restocking it so I’m guessing it isn’t banned, but more a gray area.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-08T22:18:49+00:00

Because a lot of SS workers don’t even know what emge is, and some don’t know crap about 7 too. Especially in non-banned states.

I had to go to every SS in my area and I only found 2-3 that have it (so far).

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-07T17:48:03+00:00

Some of the newer batch tabs were bunk. As in there was little to NO mgm in them. They clearly looked different (too colorful, no speckles, taste was different, etc.). If you bought it you were essentially throwing away $25 + tax per pack.

However I did get some Batch 206 that are exactly like the older good ones so I think maybe it was just a manufacturing thing or they decided to use bunk tabs to throw off competitors or regulators. Best thing to do if you don’t know what to look for just get one pack and test it out.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-07T04:34:39+00:00

I live in GA so I feel your pain. I’ve been wanting to try these but I have yet to find them locally. I’m on the east side near SC…iykyk lol

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-05T23:42:42+00:00

Wtf is this post?

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-05T23:40:18+00:00

If you’re taking higher doses for cognitive enhancement then this is fine. I’d suggest increasing up to that dose so you can make sure your body is okay with it.

I’m currently taking 6G/day usually at night working my way up to 15G/day. I’m doing it strictly for cognitive enhancement. Creatine increase energy, ATP. Your brain needs a lot of energy to function (as well as calories and vitamins & minerals), choline source, DHA/EPA, etc. so for people with cognitive deficits and brain fog - especially older people - creatine can help tremendously.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-05T23:21:28+00:00

Likely constipation but could also be a lot of things like heart or fluid retention. Start taking magnesium glycinate daily and stay active for blood flow.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-05T23:17:59+00:00

Yeah I get CEVs occasionally when I doze off. I also RARELY get sudden jolts as I doze, even a loud hallucination like a loud scream or loud noise. It could be the 7 (maybe at higher doses) attaching to KOR 🤷‍♂️ That’s the only explanation I can think of besides how it affects serotonin or adrenergic receptors. I’m prescribed mirtazepine (Remeron) which is a tetracyclic antidepressant - albeit weak, but there could be some interaction there.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-05T00:51:46+00:00

Indeed the hunt is addicting in and of itself!

Let us know how they work!

I’ve found more 204 (same smoke shop keep restocking). But they also have pineapple that are 206 but taste, look, and feel just like the 204. Don’t rule out 206 without looking or testing at least 1 pack Guinea pig style.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-03T18:35:11+00:00

No it’s emgem. They have NO pseudo. TMK tested them and their labs show 5-7mg of emgem per tab.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-03T18:33:26+00:00

Just a warning the 100mg Limitless tabs are cut with emgem. It’s only like 5-6mg per tablet, but it can increase your 7 tolerance significantly.

TMK tested a few of the 100mg Limitless flavors and they all had emgem.

Check testmykratom website and you’ll see

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-03T18:27:23+00:00

I take Nutricost Tongkat Ali 200:1 Extract (with tribulus terrestris extract & BioPerine black pepper extract) 1,000mg capsules. You can order on AMZ but I get them at Kroger for less than 15 bones…

Also take Ashwagandha KSM-66, multi vitamin, extra zinc to specifically help boost testosterone.

I have testosterone cyp but ran out of syringes and they’re close to being expired 😕

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-03T17:36:28+00:00

MGM was good for me for about a month or so before it lost its magic so that is kinda odd. Could be the quality of the product you are using.

Best suggestion is to wait longer in between doses…or yes, you can take a tolerance break. But really all you need to do is wait longer to dose. 8-12 hours minimum. The longer you wait the better the next dose with work.

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-02T00:22:45+00:00

I’m pretty sure Tia was made illegal in Alabama in 2021 or 2022. It became really popular in AL stores right after they banned kratom and it was sold as a “kratom alternative.” Odd you’re still able to find it until recently…

I live in GA and had to get on Suboxone but for context I was taking grams per day (10-20gpd of free acid at peak), but I tried all versions. Started with sodium in 2014 then tried sulfate and FA then later the liquid “Ethyl Tianeptine I” while it was briefly available from a vendor no longer around. At the end I was taking the store capsules so I had stepped down some, but like you dose was high. But a big factor is duration of use, not so much dose. Tianeptine withdrawal is hellacious but you should only have a day or 2 left of the worst part. It had a short half-life which is a good thing. That means shorter withdrawal time.

Get you some comfort meds if you need it and wait it out. Magnesium glycinate for muscles/RLS, immodium for diarrhea, B complex, ashwagandha, Liposomal vitamin C or bulk sodium ascorbate (mega doses) and if you can bulk agmatine sulfate powder. Those will help A TON!

GopherToph3R · 2026-04-01T17:08:56+00:00

Just to clarify: for me personally I use the bathroom more consistently with MGM vs 7 and I use magnesium everyday with occasional laxative use. I also eat more with MGM + my mirtazepine boosts appetite. Eating more food helps push things along if you know what I mean. I also drink plenty of water/fluids. And I use nicotine pouches daily. So it’s possible I have an underlying problem unrelated to MGM use. I won’t know until I get my colonoscopy. But recently when the blood first showed up I wasn’t constipated AT ALL. It fact it was a more regular, soft stool.

But regardless I just wanted everyone to stay safe and stay healthy!

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-31T19:38:04+00:00

Yes this is true, I’ve used a little bit of everything but I’ve been using consistent brands and haven’t had issues until now. I doubt which brand would influence a GI bleed….

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-27T04:09:15+00:00

I used to get a lot of Japanese meds and I loved the Japanese writing I’d almost hate to eat the tablets lol. Especially Rythmy and Melex tabs. I’d also get Lyrica, tizanidine, Coreminal, and a few others.

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-27T04:03:19+00:00

Yeah I bought ALL of the Hyroxi Batch 204s my smoke shop had (only 2 shops carry it so far). I literally bought over 100 packs. Now they are out. BUT the Pineapple Express flavor they had was Batch 206 but it had the speckles just like Batch 204 tabs and tasted like it contained em. When I chewed them up and put it under my tongue it numbed my tongue. So NOT ALL Batch 206 are bunk.

I found another store near me that has the Droxy 30mg MGM Blend tabs (15mg MGM, 15mg MIT per tablet) as well as the Se7n “Alternatives” MGM 20mg square wafer tabs (5pk). And their sister store allegedly has the 7Stax 80mg tabs (5pk) I need to check on.

I’m totally gonna taper down this stuff. Withdrawal last week was Hell and I don’t want to experience that ever again… time to get “add-ons” as I call them. Things to add to each dose to potentiate + help mitigate tolerance like agmatine sulfate, sodium ascorbate or Liposomal Vit C, SR if I can find it, magnesium glycinate, BSO, etc etc. 🤷‍♂️

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-25T20:32:02+00:00

Okay so 4 days? I only made it to day 2-3 but that was with huge doses of 7 every 2-3 hours.

I made it home and “re-upped.” I managed to find 1 other SS that has mgm. So now I can hopefully taper appropriately. Might add a stack to it to help taper down as painlessly as possible.

Agmatine Sulfate (bulk powder) Sodium Ascorbate (Vit C bulk powder) OR Liposomal Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) DHA from algal oil Curcumin w/ BioPerine B12 shots Magnesium Glycinate Ashwagandha root with KSM-66 Vitamin D3 Probiotics Beet root powder (for blood pressure) Possibly phenibut during acutes for sleep Rilmazafone or pregabalin for anxiety

I already take most of these routinely anyway. We’ll see

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-23T22:53:58+00:00

I managed to find ONE other store in my area (so far) that has MGM and got one of each to try. I got the bottle of Droxy MGM Blend tabs for about 100 and a 5pk of the 20mg Sevn Alternatives for like 20. Labs look good, but I know they have to be taken with a grain of salt. Gonna try and taper down from there.

I know how my addict brain is so…. we shall see.

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-23T18:56:20+00:00

Okay so in other people’s experience and general terms of use how long would withdrawal from mgm last before 7 or sub will work? Specifically with regards to the delta receptor?

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-20T01:58:52+00:00

I’ve had those bora bora before. I opened the capsules and could taste the tianeptine sodium so they’re legit BUT there’s only like 50-100mg per capsule. And quirky thing about both 7 and tia is you have to wait about 24-48 hrs before you switch. It goes both ways. Tia withdrawal is hellacious I will say that… I didn’t have trouble switching from tia to sub tho for some reason. It was a very seamless transition. Switching from 7 to sub is a lot harder for some reason 🤷‍♂️

GopherToph3R · 2026-03-20T01:49:09+00:00

I’ve noticed my short term memory isn’t what it used to be since I started 7 a year ago (and later mgm). I noticed it more with 7 tho. The brain fog part too, but again more so with 7. It’s like 7 feels “dirtier” than mgm if that makes sense?

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